OT: plastic bag ban rejected

[TexasLine]

Hmm, Lets see…if you use plastic, you choke a dolphin. If you use paper, you destroy the forests. And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…

What’s an intellectual to do…? 😉

[meadandale]

[quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility

[meadandale]

[quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility

[meadandale]

[quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility

[meadandale]

[quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility

[meadandale]

[quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility%5B/quote%5D

Unfortunately, I think I read somewhere that the Polypropylene “green bags” aren’t really that green. Because the manufacturing process (done in china) isn’t really that clean to make these. At one point in time, we did some research on this and even had a supplier lined up china to mass produce these as promotional items. I suppose the idea is that these last longer than normal plastic bag, so that you won’t go through them as quickly. But they also fall apart pretty quickly. If you take a iron or for that matter moderate heat to one of those bags, it will melt and disintegrate into a hard crusty plastic.. (Tried to do a heat press on the bags..Didn’t work)

Using natural material like cotton/polyester, though is a different category.

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility%5B/quote%5D

Unfortunately, I think I read somewhere that the Polypropylene “green bags” aren’t really that green. Because the manufacturing process (done in china) isn’t really that clean to make these. At one point in time, we did some research on this and even had a supplier lined up china to mass produce these as promotional items. I suppose the idea is that these last longer than normal plastic bag, so that you won’t go through them as quickly. But they also fall apart pretty quickly. If you take a iron or for that matter moderate heat to one of those bags, it will melt and disintegrate into a hard crusty plastic.. (Tried to do a heat press on the bags..Didn’t work)

Using natural material like cotton/polyester, though is a different category.

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility%5B/quote%5D

Unfortunately, I think I read somewhere that the Polypropylene “green bags” aren’t really that green. Because the manufacturing process (done in china) isn’t really that clean to make these. At one point in time, we did some research on this and even had a supplier lined up china to mass produce these as promotional items. I suppose the idea is that these last longer than normal plastic bag, so that you won’t go through them as quickly. But they also fall apart pretty quickly. If you take a iron or for that matter moderate heat to one of those bags, it will melt and disintegrate into a hard crusty plastic.. (Tried to do a heat press on the bags..Didn’t work)

Using natural material like cotton/polyester, though is a different category.

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility%5B/quote%5D

Unfortunately, I think I read somewhere that the Polypropylene “green bags” aren’t really that green. Because the manufacturing process (done in china) isn’t really that clean to make these. At one point in time, we did some research on this and even had a supplier lined up china to mass produce these as promotional items. I suppose the idea is that these last longer than normal plastic bag, so that you won’t go through them as quickly. But they also fall apart pretty quickly. If you take a iron or for that matter moderate heat to one of those bags, it will melt and disintegrate into a hard crusty plastic.. (Tried to do a heat press on the bags..Didn’t work)

Using natural material like cotton/polyester, though is a different category.

[Coronita]

[quote=meadandale][quote=TexasLine]And if you use cotton, you support child labor in a sweatshop somewhere…[/quote]

Not necessarily…

http://www.ecobags.com/Resources/Social-Responsibility%5B/quote%5D

Unfortunately, I think I read somewhere that the Polypropylene “green bags” aren’t really that green. Because the manufacturing process (done in china) isn’t really that clean to make these. At one point in time, we did some research on this and even had a supplier lined up china to mass produce these as promotional items. I suppose the idea is that these last longer than normal plastic bag, so that you won’t go through them as quickly. But they also fall apart pretty quickly. If you take a iron or for that matter moderate heat to one of those bags, it will melt and disintegrate into a hard crusty plastic.. (Tried to do a heat press on the bags..Didn’t work)

Using natural material like cotton/polyester, though is a different category.

[CBad]

Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?

[CBad]

Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?

[CBad]

Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?

[CBad]

Only in CA? I don’t understand that comment. It seems to me most laws that regulate personal choice originate in CA or NY. So I’m surprised this didn’t pass.

I didn’t see the merit in this ban for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you have to wash reusable bags. Oh you don’t wash yours? It’s pretty obvious that the bag is a breeding ground for germs and there have been recent obvious studies backing this up showing they are carrying E. Coli and Salmonella. If everyone was forced to use them, how many people do you think would bother to wash them? How many people would not only not wash them but also leave them in their hot car for the next shopping trip? Then you have the germy thing handled back and forth by both the consumer and the cashier (adding new germs) and introduce food into that environment. I can see this becoming a big problem if consumers at large were forced to use them.

By the way, I use reusable bags almost all of the time but I do wash mine. And I wonder how much of the environment am I saving if I have to use water and energy on the darn thing?

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