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October 14, 2009 at 11:53 PM #469992October 15, 2009 at 9:04 AM #469231
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ParticipantAllen our kids (meaning the school) all workout with Doug Hix and crew. Brandon Chillar (from Carlsbad High) is one of his clients and thus why the kids all saw him working out all summer. If you go to his Wikipedia page you’ll see his measureables which are pretty damn good for a white/east Indian boy. On a 6’3″ 240+ frame a 36 inch vertical (translates to power Brian).
The thing to remember about NFL guys Brian is that they are athletic freaks of nature. Not your normal human being. Everything they do is faster than just about anyone else. The only way Chillar can get to the edge to stop the outside sweep with a running back who’s likely a sub 11.0 100M dash is with speed. If anything I see more fast white kids than I’ve seen in a long time. His 40 time is listed at 4.71 on a frame that is pretty good sized, and there are running backs that size and weight probably running in the 4.4-4.5 range.
Tennis on the other hand does not require athletic freaks. You must have technique to the nth degree to compete at high levels. Athleticism won’t hurt you, it will only help, but it’s not the determining factor whether a player makes it to the top. Much like baseball, at the end of the day, it’s really about how well you can hit a moving target. Baseball they like prospects to be about a 7.0 in the 60 yard dash, which is above average but not blazing, and the really fast guys are down in the 6.3-6.4 range, while some 1B/P types who can rake can be above 7.0. As an aside I consider myself to be extremely knowledgeable about the baseball swing, and I use a Rafael Nadal clip with some of my hitters to show them how to thrust from the back hip.
Nothing wrong with the sports you played, because it’s likely kept you more active. I was a strictly baseball/basketball/football type kid and when the glory was gone I kind of let myself go (after military anyway). So your sports were good too, I just want you to be aware that the color thing is overblown. The Williams sisters have been on the scene for what seems like 10 years, where are the new kids?
Oops got side-tracked Allen. I do not know the guy you are asking about, Dan Basket and google isn’t helping. I actually live in Carlsbad now. I’ve been thinking of taking my kids to the guy at Athlete’s Edge (Vista/Carlsbad area) for some “technique”, as both seem to have a poor lean as they sprint. I am fine with Doug Hix crew for the strength and agility, but I think mine could stand a couple of individual lessons (maybe 3-4) on better mechanics. Not something my far arse can demonstrate. I can’t find anything by that name online, but I’d be interested if you use him on how good he is.
October 15, 2009 at 9:04 AM #469414ParticipantAllen our kids (meaning the school) all workout with Doug Hix and crew. Brandon Chillar (from Carlsbad High) is one of his clients and thus why the kids all saw him working out all summer. If you go to his Wikipedia page you’ll see his measureables which are pretty damn good for a white/east Indian boy. On a 6’3″ 240+ frame a 36 inch vertical (translates to power Brian).
The thing to remember about NFL guys Brian is that they are athletic freaks of nature. Not your normal human being. Everything they do is faster than just about anyone else. The only way Chillar can get to the edge to stop the outside sweep with a running back who’s likely a sub 11.0 100M dash is with speed. If anything I see more fast white kids than I’ve seen in a long time. His 40 time is listed at 4.71 on a frame that is pretty good sized, and there are running backs that size and weight probably running in the 4.4-4.5 range.
Tennis on the other hand does not require athletic freaks. You must have technique to the nth degree to compete at high levels. Athleticism won’t hurt you, it will only help, but it’s not the determining factor whether a player makes it to the top. Much like baseball, at the end of the day, it’s really about how well you can hit a moving target. Baseball they like prospects to be about a 7.0 in the 60 yard dash, which is above average but not blazing, and the really fast guys are down in the 6.3-6.4 range, while some 1B/P types who can rake can be above 7.0. As an aside I consider myself to be extremely knowledgeable about the baseball swing, and I use a Rafael Nadal clip with some of my hitters to show them how to thrust from the back hip.
Nothing wrong with the sports you played, because it’s likely kept you more active. I was a strictly baseball/basketball/football type kid and when the glory was gone I kind of let myself go (after military anyway). So your sports were good too, I just want you to be aware that the color thing is overblown. The Williams sisters have been on the scene for what seems like 10 years, where are the new kids?
Oops got side-tracked Allen. I do not know the guy you are asking about, Dan Basket and google isn’t helping. I actually live in Carlsbad now. I’ve been thinking of taking my kids to the guy at Athlete’s Edge (Vista/Carlsbad area) for some “technique”, as both seem to have a poor lean as they sprint. I am fine with Doug Hix crew for the strength and agility, but I think mine could stand a couple of individual lessons (maybe 3-4) on better mechanics. Not something my far arse can demonstrate. I can’t find anything by that name online, but I’d be interested if you use him on how good he is.
October 15, 2009 at 9:04 AM #469770ParticipantAllen our kids (meaning the school) all workout with Doug Hix and crew. Brandon Chillar (from Carlsbad High) is one of his clients and thus why the kids all saw him working out all summer. If you go to his Wikipedia page you’ll see his measureables which are pretty damn good for a white/east Indian boy. On a 6’3″ 240+ frame a 36 inch vertical (translates to power Brian).
The thing to remember about NFL guys Brian is that they are athletic freaks of nature. Not your normal human being. Everything they do is faster than just about anyone else. The only way Chillar can get to the edge to stop the outside sweep with a running back who’s likely a sub 11.0 100M dash is with speed. If anything I see more fast white kids than I’ve seen in a long time. His 40 time is listed at 4.71 on a frame that is pretty good sized, and there are running backs that size and weight probably running in the 4.4-4.5 range.
Tennis on the other hand does not require athletic freaks. You must have technique to the nth degree to compete at high levels. Athleticism won’t hurt you, it will only help, but it’s not the determining factor whether a player makes it to the top. Much like baseball, at the end of the day, it’s really about how well you can hit a moving target. Baseball they like prospects to be about a 7.0 in the 60 yard dash, which is above average but not blazing, and the really fast guys are down in the 6.3-6.4 range, while some 1B/P types who can rake can be above 7.0. As an aside I consider myself to be extremely knowledgeable about the baseball swing, and I use a Rafael Nadal clip with some of my hitters to show them how to thrust from the back hip.
Nothing wrong with the sports you played, because it’s likely kept you more active. I was a strictly baseball/basketball/football type kid and when the glory was gone I kind of let myself go (after military anyway). So your sports were good too, I just want you to be aware that the color thing is overblown. The Williams sisters have been on the scene for what seems like 10 years, where are the new kids?
Oops got side-tracked Allen. I do not know the guy you are asking about, Dan Basket and google isn’t helping. I actually live in Carlsbad now. I’ve been thinking of taking my kids to the guy at Athlete’s Edge (Vista/Carlsbad area) for some “technique”, as both seem to have a poor lean as they sprint. I am fine with Doug Hix crew for the strength and agility, but I think mine could stand a couple of individual lessons (maybe 3-4) on better mechanics. Not something my far arse can demonstrate. I can’t find anything by that name online, but I’d be interested if you use him on how good he is.
October 15, 2009 at 9:04 AM #469843ParticipantAllen our kids (meaning the school) all workout with Doug Hix and crew. Brandon Chillar (from Carlsbad High) is one of his clients and thus why the kids all saw him working out all summer. If you go to his Wikipedia page you’ll see his measureables which are pretty damn good for a white/east Indian boy. On a 6’3″ 240+ frame a 36 inch vertical (translates to power Brian).
The thing to remember about NFL guys Brian is that they are athletic freaks of nature. Not your normal human being. Everything they do is faster than just about anyone else. The only way Chillar can get to the edge to stop the outside sweep with a running back who’s likely a sub 11.0 100M dash is with speed. If anything I see more fast white kids than I’ve seen in a long time. His 40 time is listed at 4.71 on a frame that is pretty good sized, and there are running backs that size and weight probably running in the 4.4-4.5 range.
Tennis on the other hand does not require athletic freaks. You must have technique to the nth degree to compete at high levels. Athleticism won’t hurt you, it will only help, but it’s not the determining factor whether a player makes it to the top. Much like baseball, at the end of the day, it’s really about how well you can hit a moving target. Baseball they like prospects to be about a 7.0 in the 60 yard dash, which is above average but not blazing, and the really fast guys are down in the 6.3-6.4 range, while some 1B/P types who can rake can be above 7.0. As an aside I consider myself to be extremely knowledgeable about the baseball swing, and I use a Rafael Nadal clip with some of my hitters to show them how to thrust from the back hip.
Nothing wrong with the sports you played, because it’s likely kept you more active. I was a strictly baseball/basketball/football type kid and when the glory was gone I kind of let myself go (after military anyway). So your sports were good too, I just want you to be aware that the color thing is overblown. The Williams sisters have been on the scene for what seems like 10 years, where are the new kids?
Oops got side-tracked Allen. I do not know the guy you are asking about, Dan Basket and google isn’t helping. I actually live in Carlsbad now. I’ve been thinking of taking my kids to the guy at Athlete’s Edge (Vista/Carlsbad area) for some “technique”, as both seem to have a poor lean as they sprint. I am fine with Doug Hix crew for the strength and agility, but I think mine could stand a couple of individual lessons (maybe 3-4) on better mechanics. Not something my far arse can demonstrate. I can’t find anything by that name online, but I’d be interested if you use him on how good he is.
October 15, 2009 at 9:04 AM #470054ParticipantAllen our kids (meaning the school) all workout with Doug Hix and crew. Brandon Chillar (from Carlsbad High) is one of his clients and thus why the kids all saw him working out all summer. If you go to his Wikipedia page you’ll see his measureables which are pretty damn good for a white/east Indian boy. On a 6’3″ 240+ frame a 36 inch vertical (translates to power Brian).
The thing to remember about NFL guys Brian is that they are athletic freaks of nature. Not your normal human being. Everything they do is faster than just about anyone else. The only way Chillar can get to the edge to stop the outside sweep with a running back who’s likely a sub 11.0 100M dash is with speed. If anything I see more fast white kids than I’ve seen in a long time. His 40 time is listed at 4.71 on a frame that is pretty good sized, and there are running backs that size and weight probably running in the 4.4-4.5 range.
Tennis on the other hand does not require athletic freaks. You must have technique to the nth degree to compete at high levels. Athleticism won’t hurt you, it will only help, but it’s not the determining factor whether a player makes it to the top. Much like baseball, at the end of the day, it’s really about how well you can hit a moving target. Baseball they like prospects to be about a 7.0 in the 60 yard dash, which is above average but not blazing, and the really fast guys are down in the 6.3-6.4 range, while some 1B/P types who can rake can be above 7.0. As an aside I consider myself to be extremely knowledgeable about the baseball swing, and I use a Rafael Nadal clip with some of my hitters to show them how to thrust from the back hip.
Nothing wrong with the sports you played, because it’s likely kept you more active. I was a strictly baseball/basketball/football type kid and when the glory was gone I kind of let myself go (after military anyway). So your sports were good too, I just want you to be aware that the color thing is overblown. The Williams sisters have been on the scene for what seems like 10 years, where are the new kids?
Oops got side-tracked Allen. I do not know the guy you are asking about, Dan Basket and google isn’t helping. I actually live in Carlsbad now. I’ve been thinking of taking my kids to the guy at Athlete’s Edge (Vista/Carlsbad area) for some “technique”, as both seem to have a poor lean as they sprint. I am fine with Doug Hix crew for the strength and agility, but I think mine could stand a couple of individual lessons (maybe 3-4) on better mechanics. Not something my far arse can demonstrate. I can’t find anything by that name online, but I’d be interested if you use him on how good he is.
October 15, 2009 at 9:56 AM #469296Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantCardiff: I’ve also noticed that kids are bigger now, too, in addition to being faster.
Back when I played (1979 – 1983), I maxed out at 5’11” and 215 and was considered big for a middle linebacker. Our biggest guy was our left tackle on O and he went 6’3″ and 270, which was very big for the position at that time.
The kid playing Mike backer now at my HS is 6’2″ and 247 and is stupid FAST. I went up there to hang out with some buddies and watch a rivalry game and this kid (who is all of 16 and playing first string varsity) was just bringing the hat and play after play. They were using him on man-to-man coverage for the slot receiver and he was holding his own.
Back in my day, if I had to pass cover anyone other than a fullback or the tight end, I was friggin’ doomed.
Different sport now and the amount of resources, from one-on-one coaching to Xbox 360 and Madden 10, have completely changed the game. Bigger, faster and stronger rules the day.
I’ll look into Hix. This Basket dude has worked with quite a few of the pros, including Leinart, so I was curious if you’d heard of him.
October 15, 2009 at 9:56 AM #469478ParticipantCardiff: I’ve also noticed that kids are bigger now, too, in addition to being faster.
Back when I played (1979 – 1983), I maxed out at 5’11” and 215 and was considered big for a middle linebacker. Our biggest guy was our left tackle on O and he went 6’3″ and 270, which was very big for the position at that time.
The kid playing Mike backer now at my HS is 6’2″ and 247 and is stupid FAST. I went up there to hang out with some buddies and watch a rivalry game and this kid (who is all of 16 and playing first string varsity) was just bringing the hat and play after play. They were using him on man-to-man coverage for the slot receiver and he was holding his own.
Back in my day, if I had to pass cover anyone other than a fullback or the tight end, I was friggin’ doomed.
Different sport now and the amount of resources, from one-on-one coaching to Xbox 360 and Madden 10, have completely changed the game. Bigger, faster and stronger rules the day.
I’ll look into Hix. This Basket dude has worked with quite a few of the pros, including Leinart, so I was curious if you’d heard of him.
October 15, 2009 at 9:56 AM #469834ParticipantCardiff: I’ve also noticed that kids are bigger now, too, in addition to being faster.
Back when I played (1979 – 1983), I maxed out at 5’11” and 215 and was considered big for a middle linebacker. Our biggest guy was our left tackle on O and he went 6’3″ and 270, which was very big for the position at that time.
The kid playing Mike backer now at my HS is 6’2″ and 247 and is stupid FAST. I went up there to hang out with some buddies and watch a rivalry game and this kid (who is all of 16 and playing first string varsity) was just bringing the hat and play after play. They were using him on man-to-man coverage for the slot receiver and he was holding his own.
Back in my day, if I had to pass cover anyone other than a fullback or the tight end, I was friggin’ doomed.
Different sport now and the amount of resources, from one-on-one coaching to Xbox 360 and Madden 10, have completely changed the game. Bigger, faster and stronger rules the day.
I’ll look into Hix. This Basket dude has worked with quite a few of the pros, including Leinart, so I was curious if you’d heard of him.
October 15, 2009 at 9:56 AM #469908ParticipantCardiff: I’ve also noticed that kids are bigger now, too, in addition to being faster.
Back when I played (1979 – 1983), I maxed out at 5’11” and 215 and was considered big for a middle linebacker. Our biggest guy was our left tackle on O and he went 6’3″ and 270, which was very big for the position at that time.
The kid playing Mike backer now at my HS is 6’2″ and 247 and is stupid FAST. I went up there to hang out with some buddies and watch a rivalry game and this kid (who is all of 16 and playing first string varsity) was just bringing the hat and play after play. They were using him on man-to-man coverage for the slot receiver and he was holding his own.
Back in my day, if I had to pass cover anyone other than a fullback or the tight end, I was friggin’ doomed.
Different sport now and the amount of resources, from one-on-one coaching to Xbox 360 and Madden 10, have completely changed the game. Bigger, faster and stronger rules the day.
I’ll look into Hix. This Basket dude has worked with quite a few of the pros, including Leinart, so I was curious if you’d heard of him.
October 15, 2009 at 9:56 AM #470119ParticipantCardiff: I’ve also noticed that kids are bigger now, too, in addition to being faster.
Back when I played (1979 – 1983), I maxed out at 5’11” and 215 and was considered big for a middle linebacker. Our biggest guy was our left tackle on O and he went 6’3″ and 270, which was very big for the position at that time.
The kid playing Mike backer now at my HS is 6’2″ and 247 and is stupid FAST. I went up there to hang out with some buddies and watch a rivalry game and this kid (who is all of 16 and playing first string varsity) was just bringing the hat and play after play. They were using him on man-to-man coverage for the slot receiver and he was holding his own.
Back in my day, if I had to pass cover anyone other than a fullback or the tight end, I was friggin’ doomed.
Different sport now and the amount of resources, from one-on-one coaching to Xbox 360 and Madden 10, have completely changed the game. Bigger, faster and stronger rules the day.
I’ll look into Hix. This Basket dude has worked with quite a few of the pros, including Leinart, so I was curious if you’d heard of him.
October 15, 2009 at 10:01 AM #469311Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
It’s interesting you didn’t play football. I hear a lot of people mouthing off about their “understanding” of that sport and they generally don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
[/quote]That’s true. I admit that I don’t have much of a clue about football.
I’m just saying that sports and pop culture usually win the hearts and minds of young Americans. That’s not necessarily in keeping with the family values that are dear to conservatives.
I also wonder if Rush listeners will be less fervent football fans after he rants about the PC NFL on his show. I’m thinking that in the end, if people have to choose between Rush and football, football will win.
I’m just looking at this as a sociological interest.
I don’t pretend to understand the sport of football. That would be almost a full-time job.[/quote]
Brian: I would be interested in your take on the NFL being a plantation style organization.
The TE at my HS went on to play three years of pro ball (two with the Falcons and one with the 49ers) and his three year career equals the average NFL career (the joke being that NFL stands for “Not For Long”). From HS through pros, he’s had no less than 17 separate surgeries and on everything from his ankles to his neck. Its been said that, in the NFL, there’s “stars” and “parts” (he was the “parts”).
So, keeping that in mind, Brian, and juxtaposing the ownership (largely white) with the players (mostly black), what’s your take on that? You said you were interested in the sociological aspects of football, well, this is about as “sociological” as it gets, right?
October 15, 2009 at 10:01 AM #469493Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
It’s interesting you didn’t play football. I hear a lot of people mouthing off about their “understanding” of that sport and they generally don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
[/quote]That’s true. I admit that I don’t have much of a clue about football.
I’m just saying that sports and pop culture usually win the hearts and minds of young Americans. That’s not necessarily in keeping with the family values that are dear to conservatives.
I also wonder if Rush listeners will be less fervent football fans after he rants about the PC NFL on his show. I’m thinking that in the end, if people have to choose between Rush and football, football will win.
I’m just looking at this as a sociological interest.
I don’t pretend to understand the sport of football. That would be almost a full-time job.[/quote]
Brian: I would be interested in your take on the NFL being a plantation style organization.
The TE at my HS went on to play three years of pro ball (two with the Falcons and one with the 49ers) and his three year career equals the average NFL career (the joke being that NFL stands for “Not For Long”). From HS through pros, he’s had no less than 17 separate surgeries and on everything from his ankles to his neck. Its been said that, in the NFL, there’s “stars” and “parts” (he was the “parts”).
So, keeping that in mind, Brian, and juxtaposing the ownership (largely white) with the players (mostly black), what’s your take on that? You said you were interested in the sociological aspects of football, well, this is about as “sociological” as it gets, right?
October 15, 2009 at 10:01 AM #469849Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
It’s interesting you didn’t play football. I hear a lot of people mouthing off about their “understanding” of that sport and they generally don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
[/quote]That’s true. I admit that I don’t have much of a clue about football.
I’m just saying that sports and pop culture usually win the hearts and minds of young Americans. That’s not necessarily in keeping with the family values that are dear to conservatives.
I also wonder if Rush listeners will be less fervent football fans after he rants about the PC NFL on his show. I’m thinking that in the end, if people have to choose between Rush and football, football will win.
I’m just looking at this as a sociological interest.
I don’t pretend to understand the sport of football. That would be almost a full-time job.[/quote]
Brian: I would be interested in your take on the NFL being a plantation style organization.
The TE at my HS went on to play three years of pro ball (two with the Falcons and one with the 49ers) and his three year career equals the average NFL career (the joke being that NFL stands for “Not For Long”). From HS through pros, he’s had no less than 17 separate surgeries and on everything from his ankles to his neck. Its been said that, in the NFL, there’s “stars” and “parts” (he was the “parts”).
So, keeping that in mind, Brian, and juxtaposing the ownership (largely white) with the players (mostly black), what’s your take on that? You said you were interested in the sociological aspects of football, well, this is about as “sociological” as it gets, right?
October 15, 2009 at 10:01 AM #469923Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
It’s interesting you didn’t play football. I hear a lot of people mouthing off about their “understanding” of that sport and they generally don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
[/quote]That’s true. I admit that I don’t have much of a clue about football.
I’m just saying that sports and pop culture usually win the hearts and minds of young Americans. That’s not necessarily in keeping with the family values that are dear to conservatives.
I also wonder if Rush listeners will be less fervent football fans after he rants about the PC NFL on his show. I’m thinking that in the end, if people have to choose between Rush and football, football will win.
I’m just looking at this as a sociological interest.
I don’t pretend to understand the sport of football. That would be almost a full-time job.[/quote]
Brian: I would be interested in your take on the NFL being a plantation style organization.
The TE at my HS went on to play three years of pro ball (two with the Falcons and one with the 49ers) and his three year career equals the average NFL career (the joke being that NFL stands for “Not For Long”). From HS through pros, he’s had no less than 17 separate surgeries and on everything from his ankles to his neck. Its been said that, in the NFL, there’s “stars” and “parts” (he was the “parts”).
So, keeping that in mind, Brian, and juxtaposing the ownership (largely white) with the players (mostly black), what’s your take on that? You said you were interested in the sociological aspects of football, well, this is about as “sociological” as it gets, right?
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