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August 7, 2021 at 11:27 AM #23120August 7, 2021 at 9:09 PM #822920gzzParticipant
As I recall no 1099 needed when it is under $600 a year. But then giving a kid cash isn’t normally taxed.
When I was getting financial aid grants, they penalized me heavily for all the assets I had in my name. Basically having $1 in an IRA would have cost me ~$2.70 in lost financial aid grants.
August 7, 2021 at 11:25 PM #822921plmParticipantWhat a coincidence, I just realized this morning that when I quit my job (because they force you into the office and I don’t think it is safe because of Covid) then I will not be able to do the Roth IRA because you need earned income for that, not investment income. But if I create a company for my rental as you suggest, then it can pay me each year for taking care of the rental so I can continue contributing to a Roth IRA!
August 8, 2021 at 12:30 AM #822923CoronitaParticipant[quote=plm]What a coincidence, I just realized this morning that when I quit my job (because they force you into the office and I don’t think it is safe because of Covid) then I will not be able to do the Roth IRA because you need earned income for that, not investment income. But if I create a company for my rental as you suggest, then it can pay me each year for taking care of the rental so I can continue contributing to a Roth IRA![/quote]
What im trying to avoid is creating a company to do this in my case. You cant give yourself a 1099 so you will need some entity to give you a 1099…
But i think im suppose to give anyone that does work for me a 1099, and so if my kid does really do bookkeeping for me, im suppose to give them a 1099. Just wondering if this is sufficient proof of earned income to allow a Roth IRA.
Paying my kid for $1000/years worth of work to unlock a $6000/year investment account that can grow tax free many years seems like a good tradeoff
August 8, 2021 at 1:00 AM #822922CoronitaParticipantSo there’s no way my kid is going to get financial aid.
Im just wondering if i need to setup a business entity in order to do this. I dont think so. But i wanted to check in case anyone is an accountant. Seems like i need to talk to a tax guy…
August 8, 2021 at 1:01 AM #822924CoronitaParticipantForget what i asked. I think im making this more difficult then it is. My kid tutors other younger kids… Therefore she has earned income, and therefore she can open a Roth…
August 8, 2021 at 7:40 AM #822926plmParticipantI wasn’t very serious about this. Problem is you can’t contribute more than you earned.
August 8, 2021 at 9:29 AM #822927CoronitaParticipant[quote=plm]I wasn’t very serious about this. Problem is you can’t contribute more than you earned.[/quote]
yeas but you only need to earn $6000 to contribute 6000my kid earns about $125 / week tutoring math to grade school kids, so that should work out.
August 8, 2021 at 2:36 PM #822934plmParticipantPutting in 6K starting at such a young age is going to be huge later in life, all tax free.
August 8, 2021 at 5:03 PM #822935CoronitaParticipant[quote=plm]Putting in 6K starting at such a young age is going to be huge later in life, all tax free.[/quote]
yes. So starting at 15 and reaching 30, that should be roughly 1/2 million. Also, with no further contributions, by 60 that should be pretty big. As an added bonus, if contributions stop right before marriage, and provided no other money is comingled during marriage, that Roth IRA is clearly separate property, so in the unfortunate event of a marriage failure, thats still my kids separate property. IRAs also have some level of asset protection from creditors…
August 9, 2021 at 2:39 PM #822943plmParticipantAt 10 percent gains, I calculate it to be more like 200K at age 30. You should have started your kids working at 6 or so for 500K
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