OT: Obama is dumber than a box of rocks

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=gandalf]butler, do you have anything to contribute here? In fairness, I understand the problems you had with Obama’s *opponent* in the Illinois senate race. That guy Ryan was legitimately CREEPY.

But what’s your beef with Obama?

Unless you can point to something substantive, we’ll just chalk you up as another brainwashed right-wing dipshit. Not a grain of reality or common sense in your fucking head. Facts, please.

What’s your beef with Obama?

FYI, you don’t hear me crapping on McCain. I think he’s a good candidate. I think Obama is better, but I’m not making shit up about McCain’s skin cancer, time in captivity, adopted babies and cripple-arm. In truth, I would be okay with a McCain presidency. This, in spite of his post-Bush sellout to the goofball evangalicals and republican right.

Also, I just want to point out: Bush junior and these “new-age” fruit-job Republicans are responsible for the largest entitlement program since Medicare, the biggest deficit in the history of the country, as well as the largest (corporate) welfare program in the history of this country. Ron Paul is EXACTLY right. You are NOT who you think you are.
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Wow. You had me right up until the Ron Paul.

(you had me at hello, wizard)
(I heart u)
Sorry this is what happens when mojitos and Jerry Maguire mix.
Don’t tell my wife.

[JerseyGrl]

Wow, thanks everyone. I read things I had not considered about Obama. Don’t know if they’re all true, but it’s worth thinking about

So, I have read here lots of reasons why I shouldn’t vote for Obama, but not too much about why I should vote for McCain. Because he’s white and patriotic?

Enlighten me more. I’m listening.

ps someone please tell me why right-wingers keep saying liberals are not patriotic? Because we hate this war? My husband and I and all our friends are liberal, and we all love our country.

[JerseyGrl]

Wow, thanks everyone. I read things I had not considered about Obama. Don’t know if they’re all true, but it’s worth thinking about

So, I have read here lots of reasons why I shouldn’t vote for Obama, but not too much about why I should vote for McCain. Because he’s white and patriotic?

Enlighten me more. I’m listening.

ps someone please tell me why right-wingers keep saying liberals are not patriotic? Because we hate this war? My husband and I and all our friends are liberal, and we all love our country.

[JerseyGrl]

Wow, thanks everyone. I read things I had not considered about Obama. Don’t know if they’re all true, but it’s worth thinking about

So, I have read here lots of reasons why I shouldn’t vote for Obama, but not too much about why I should vote for McCain. Because he’s white and patriotic?

Enlighten me more. I’m listening.

ps someone please tell me why right-wingers keep saying liberals are not patriotic? Because we hate this war? My husband and I and all our friends are liberal, and we all love our country.

[JerseyGrl]

Wow, thanks everyone. I read things I had not considered about Obama. Don’t know if they’re all true, but it’s worth thinking about

So, I have read here lots of reasons why I shouldn’t vote for Obama, but not too much about why I should vote for McCain. Because he’s white and patriotic?

Enlighten me more. I’m listening.

ps someone please tell me why right-wingers keep saying liberals are not patriotic? Because we hate this war? My husband and I and all our friends are liberal, and we all love our country.

[JerseyGrl]

Wow, thanks everyone. I read things I had not considered about Obama. Don’t know if they’re all true, but it’s worth thinking about

So, I have read here lots of reasons why I shouldn’t vote for Obama, but not too much about why I should vote for McCain. Because he’s white and patriotic?

Enlighten me more. I’m listening.

ps someone please tell me why right-wingers keep saying liberals are not patriotic? Because we hate this war? My husband and I and all our friends are liberal, and we all love our country.

[gandalf]

Naw, naw. Ron Paul’s good!

He’s ‘crazy guy’ alright but he’s speaking truth to power. Kind of like Aguirre and the City Council. Anytime the establishment fucks up, runs the bus into the ditch, regular people start saying “Hey, the ‘crazy guy’ might be right…” It’s a sign of how fucked up things are. Pretty comical when you think about it… <ha,ha>

toots, isn’t it interesting how one-sided everything is? It only really started showing up recently. I truly suspect there’s some sort of republican party involvement. I wouldn’t be surprised if people get paid to troll the blogs. Union-Tribune is the same way. Same ludicrous right-wing posters over and over again. I think it’s organized.

[gandalf]

Naw, naw. Ron Paul’s good!

He’s ‘crazy guy’ alright but he’s speaking truth to power. Kind of like Aguirre and the City Council. Anytime the establishment fucks up, runs the bus into the ditch, regular people start saying “Hey, the ‘crazy guy’ might be right…” It’s a sign of how fucked up things are. Pretty comical when you think about it… <ha,ha>

toots, isn’t it interesting how one-sided everything is? It only really started showing up recently. I truly suspect there’s some sort of republican party involvement. I wouldn’t be surprised if people get paid to troll the blogs. Union-Tribune is the same way. Same ludicrous right-wing posters over and over again. I think it’s organized.

[gandalf]

Naw, naw. Ron Paul’s good!

He’s ‘crazy guy’ alright but he’s speaking truth to power. Kind of like Aguirre and the City Council. Anytime the establishment fucks up, runs the bus into the ditch, regular people start saying “Hey, the ‘crazy guy’ might be right…” It’s a sign of how fucked up things are. Pretty comical when you think about it… <ha,ha>

toots, isn’t it interesting how one-sided everything is? It only really started showing up recently. I truly suspect there’s some sort of republican party involvement. I wouldn’t be surprised if people get paid to troll the blogs. Union-Tribune is the same way. Same ludicrous right-wing posters over and over again. I think it’s organized.

[gandalf]

Naw, naw. Ron Paul’s good!

He’s ‘crazy guy’ alright but he’s speaking truth to power. Kind of like Aguirre and the City Council. Anytime the establishment fucks up, runs the bus into the ditch, regular people start saying “Hey, the ‘crazy guy’ might be right…” It’s a sign of how fucked up things are. Pretty comical when you think about it… <ha,ha>

toots, isn’t it interesting how one-sided everything is? It only really started showing up recently. I truly suspect there’s some sort of republican party involvement. I wouldn’t be surprised if people get paid to troll the blogs. Union-Tribune is the same way. Same ludicrous right-wing posters over and over again. I think it’s organized.

[gandalf]

Naw, naw. Ron Paul’s good!

He’s ‘crazy guy’ alright but he’s speaking truth to power. Kind of like Aguirre and the City Council. Anytime the establishment fucks up, runs the bus into the ditch, regular people start saying “Hey, the ‘crazy guy’ might be right…” It’s a sign of how fucked up things are. Pretty comical when you think about it… <ha,ha>

toots, isn’t it interesting how one-sided everything is? It only really started showing up recently. I truly suspect there’s some sort of republican party involvement. I wouldn’t be surprised if people get paid to troll the blogs. Union-Tribune is the same way. Same ludicrous right-wing posters over and over again. I think it’s organized.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

toots: I think there needs to be a distinction between liberals and left-wingers. I think the word “liberal” is a good word, and not a pejorative, but I loathe left-wingers.

As I’m sure gandalf would be the first to tell you, I am extremely conservative, in the old school Goldwater Republican camp. I would never accuse a liberal of hating their country, but would accuse a left-winger of doing so.

It is much akin to Susan Sontag opining after 9/11 that we “deserved” it. While I feel that our foreign policy in the Middle East has run between complete ignorance and ineptitude, claiming that Osama bin Laden was justified in his actions is beyond the pale and contemptible.

I don’t hold that we are above criticism. To the contrary, I believe that we need to change our approach in that part of the world and that the past 50 years have shown significant errors in our relationships and our strategies. Support for countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt are going to come back to haunt us, and we need to see that part of the world in a whole new way.

All of that being said, however, I don’t feel that either of the candidates is a good choice for that particular job. I have McCain on one hand openly advocating the bombing of Iran and Obama on the other completely missing the point as to why Iran should not have The Bomb.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

toots: I think there needs to be a distinction between liberals and left-wingers. I think the word “liberal” is a good word, and not a pejorative, but I loathe left-wingers.

As I’m sure gandalf would be the first to tell you, I am extremely conservative, in the old school Goldwater Republican camp. I would never accuse a liberal of hating their country, but would accuse a left-winger of doing so.

It is much akin to Susan Sontag opining after 9/11 that we “deserved” it. While I feel that our foreign policy in the Middle East has run between complete ignorance and ineptitude, claiming that Osama bin Laden was justified in his actions is beyond the pale and contemptible.

I don’t hold that we are above criticism. To the contrary, I believe that we need to change our approach in that part of the world and that the past 50 years have shown significant errors in our relationships and our strategies. Support for countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt are going to come back to haunt us, and we need to see that part of the world in a whole new way.

All of that being said, however, I don’t feel that either of the candidates is a good choice for that particular job. I have McCain on one hand openly advocating the bombing of Iran and Obama on the other completely missing the point as to why Iran should not have The Bomb.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

toots: I think there needs to be a distinction between liberals and left-wingers. I think the word “liberal” is a good word, and not a pejorative, but I loathe left-wingers.

As I’m sure gandalf would be the first to tell you, I am extremely conservative, in the old school Goldwater Republican camp. I would never accuse a liberal of hating their country, but would accuse a left-winger of doing so.

It is much akin to Susan Sontag opining after 9/11 that we “deserved” it. While I feel that our foreign policy in the Middle East has run between complete ignorance and ineptitude, claiming that Osama bin Laden was justified in his actions is beyond the pale and contemptible.

I don’t hold that we are above criticism. To the contrary, I believe that we need to change our approach in that part of the world and that the past 50 years have shown significant errors in our relationships and our strategies. Support for countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt are going to come back to haunt us, and we need to see that part of the world in a whole new way.

All of that being said, however, I don’t feel that either of the candidates is a good choice for that particular job. I have McCain on one hand openly advocating the bombing of Iran and Obama on the other completely missing the point as to why Iran should not have The Bomb.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

toots: I think there needs to be a distinction between liberals and left-wingers. I think the word “liberal” is a good word, and not a pejorative, but I loathe left-wingers.

As I’m sure gandalf would be the first to tell you, I am extremely conservative, in the old school Goldwater Republican camp. I would never accuse a liberal of hating their country, but would accuse a left-winger of doing so.

It is much akin to Susan Sontag opining after 9/11 that we “deserved” it. While I feel that our foreign policy in the Middle East has run between complete ignorance and ineptitude, claiming that Osama bin Laden was justified in his actions is beyond the pale and contemptible.

I don’t hold that we are above criticism. To the contrary, I believe that we need to change our approach in that part of the world and that the past 50 years have shown significant errors in our relationships and our strategies. Support for countries like Saudi Arabia and Egypt are going to come back to haunt us, and we need to see that part of the world in a whole new way.

All of that being said, however, I don’t feel that either of the candidates is a good choice for that particular job. I have McCain on one hand openly advocating the bombing of Iran and Obama on the other completely missing the point as to why Iran should not have The Bomb.

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