OT – Nuclear Fallout Map

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=zk]
You don’t see how one can drop the hammer on Bush without doing the same to Obama? Really? It’s pretty simple. Bush got us into a war that wasn’t necessary, cost us massively, and got us nothing.

I don’t see your long-term strategy for Libya. How is the outcome better for us if the rebels win than if gadhafi stays? What’s in it for us and why would we fight for that?[/quote]

Zk: I have no plan whatsoever. I just don’t like Gaddafi Duck. I say if we have a chance to eject his happy ass, we do so and forthwith.

I was being a little tongue-in-cheek on Bush v. Obama, but not completely. I have to imagine that there are quite a few Obama voters out there that are really wondering who they voted for and what he truly stands for.

Perhaps if we all read more “Mother Jones” we’d all know!

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
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My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[Arraya]

TEPCO Director Weeps After Disclosing Truth About Fukushima Disaster
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tepco-director-weeps-after-disclosing-truth-about-fukushima-disaster
He said officials should have admitted earlier how serious the radiation leaks were. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: ‘The unprecedented scale of the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, frankly speaking, were among many things that happened that had not been anticipated under our disaster management contingency plans.” This is precisely as Zero Hedge had expected would happen all along, following our recurring allegations of a massive cover up by the Japanese government. And furthermore as we predicted a week ago when we said that continued government lies and subversions would make the situation untenable once the population loses faith in the government, this is precisely what has happened.

[Arraya]

TEPCO Director Weeps After Disclosing Truth About Fukushima Disaster
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tepco-director-weeps-after-disclosing-truth-about-fukushima-disaster
He said officials should have admitted earlier how serious the radiation leaks were. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: ‘The unprecedented scale of the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, frankly speaking, were among many things that happened that had not been anticipated under our disaster management contingency plans.” This is precisely as Zero Hedge had expected would happen all along, following our recurring allegations of a massive cover up by the Japanese government. And furthermore as we predicted a week ago when we said that continued government lies and subversions would make the situation untenable once the population loses faith in the government, this is precisely what has happened.

[Arraya]

TEPCO Director Weeps After Disclosing Truth About Fukushima Disaster
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tepco-director-weeps-after-disclosing-truth-about-fukushima-disaster
He said officials should have admitted earlier how serious the radiation leaks were. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: ‘The unprecedented scale of the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, frankly speaking, were among many things that happened that had not been anticipated under our disaster management contingency plans.” This is precisely as Zero Hedge had expected would happen all along, following our recurring allegations of a massive cover up by the Japanese government. And furthermore as we predicted a week ago when we said that continued government lies and subversions would make the situation untenable once the population loses faith in the government, this is precisely what has happened.

[Arraya]

TEPCO Director Weeps After Disclosing Truth About Fukushima Disaster
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tepco-director-weeps-after-disclosing-truth-about-fukushima-disaster
He said officials should have admitted earlier how serious the radiation leaks were. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: ‘The unprecedented scale of the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, frankly speaking, were among many things that happened that had not been anticipated under our disaster management contingency plans.” This is precisely as Zero Hedge had expected would happen all along, following our recurring allegations of a massive cover up by the Japanese government. And furthermore as we predicted a week ago when we said that continued government lies and subversions would make the situation untenable once the population loses faith in the government, this is precisely what has happened.

[Arraya]

TEPCO Director Weeps After Disclosing Truth About Fukushima Disaster
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tepco-director-weeps-after-disclosing-truth-about-fukushima-disaster
He said officials should have admitted earlier how serious the radiation leaks were. Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said: ‘The unprecedented scale of the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan, frankly speaking, were among many things that happened that had not been anticipated under our disaster management contingency plans.” This is precisely as Zero Hedge had expected would happen all along, following our recurring allegations of a massive cover up by the Japanese government. And furthermore as we predicted a week ago when we said that continued government lies and subversions would make the situation untenable once the population loses faith in the government, this is precisely what has happened.

[zk]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Zk: I have no plan whatsoever. I just don’t like Gaddafi Duck. I say if we have a chance to eject his happy ass, we do so and forthwith.

[/quote]

Well, obviously we need a long-term plan before we start bombing and shooting. I don’t like gadhafi either. But I don’t think that’s nearly enough reason to go to war.

Even if we could eject him rather easily, why would we? What are the odds that the next regime would be better? I’d say 50/50 at best. Getting rid of him might be easy, but getting who we want in there most likely wouldn’t be.

[zk]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Zk: I have no plan whatsoever. I just don’t like Gaddafi Duck. I say if we have a chance to eject his happy ass, we do so and forthwith.

[/quote]

Well, obviously we need a long-term plan before we start bombing and shooting. I don’t like gadhafi either. But I don’t think that’s nearly enough reason to go to war.

Even if we could eject him rather easily, why would we? What are the odds that the next regime would be better? I’d say 50/50 at best. Getting rid of him might be easy, but getting who we want in there most likely wouldn’t be.

[zk]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Zk: I have no plan whatsoever. I just don’t like Gaddafi Duck. I say if we have a chance to eject his happy ass, we do so and forthwith.

[/quote]

Well, obviously we need a long-term plan before we start bombing and shooting. I don’t like gadhafi either. But I don’t think that’s nearly enough reason to go to war.

Even if we could eject him rather easily, why would we? What are the odds that the next regime would be better? I’d say 50/50 at best. Getting rid of him might be easy, but getting who we want in there most likely wouldn’t be.

[zk]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Zk: I have no plan whatsoever. I just don’t like Gaddafi Duck. I say if we have a chance to eject his happy ass, we do so and forthwith.

[/quote]

Well, obviously we need a long-term plan before we start bombing and shooting. I don’t like gadhafi either. But I don’t think that’s nearly enough reason to go to war.

Even if we could eject him rather easily, why would we? What are the odds that the next regime would be better? I’d say 50/50 at best. Getting rid of him might be easy, but getting who we want in there most likely wouldn’t be.

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