OT: Need Third Party Now

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[quote=gandalf]asia, Barr or Nader or Ron Paul (who I like) are just not practical ‘protest candidates’ right now. It’s either McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden. Saying Obama and McCain are the same is untrue. There are consequential differences on energy, foreign policy and the economy.

The suggestion that voting for Obama is going to bankrupt the federal coffers is outlandish. The deficit stands currently at $10T. At what point did you realize we might already be insolvent? In the news today, Obama says the USA can’t afford McCain’s “Buy everyone a house mortgage plan.” Which candidate is presenting a responsible fiscal position? It’s actually Obama.

When I vote Libertarian this year, I know my candidate won’t win. However, my hope is that the Libertarian party will actually get enough vote to get public financing and be able to participate in the debate the next time around. We have to start somewhere. The 2 parties system just isn’t working anymore.

Drone? Nope. I’ve considered the issues carefully these past few years. This is the first election in my life where I’ve advocated a position on the candidates.

Obama is a better choice because of his positions on energy, foreign policy and the economy. He is ten times more capable, presidential and ready to lead than old-man McCain with his dementia and brain cancer. Don’t even get me started about Caribou Barbie.[/quote]
Then you must also support Obama’s push for another bailout. Most of the guys in Washington right now are in someone’s pocket. So, I don’t trust anyone of them. Obama is not even in office yet and he’s already proposing more bailouts. I can only imagine how many more bailouts he’ll propose when he actually get into office. Like DWCAP posted, Obama’s plan will increase the net deficit even more so than McCain. Obama is also only one leg of a three legged chair. Do you think Obama will veto bloated stuff coming out of a Democrat controlled Senate and House when he voted w/ his Senate buddies 97% of the times? He will definitely bring change, I just don’t like the change he’s bringing. Remember, although this $850B bailouts where proposed by Bush, the majority who voted for it were Democrats.

When I vote Libertarian this year, I know my candidate won’t win. I can only hope that my vote will actually count and give the Libertarian party enough vote to get public financing and be able to participate in the debate the next time around. In my view, we need REAL change and the 2 parties system is just not working anymore.

[anxvariety]

Obama may get elected. Once there he will try and talk his way through everything and get crushed. That’s like some egomaniacal person thinking they can fix your marriage by talking to both people.. they’re not thinking in terms of what’s at stake, but that they’re such an amazing communicator that they can fix it.

I think Obama is your typical con-artist.. they create an image and sell everyone on it by talking. Ever notice how Obama just rambles on when he answers a question. Never just an answer, but always trying way too hard to say something slick. If he was brief I might have respect for him, but I think he’s super conceited – a snake in the grass.

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Obama may get elected. Once there he will try and talk his way through everything and get crushed. That’s like some egomaniacal person thinking they can fix your marriage by talking to both people.. they’re not thinking in terms of what’s at stake, but that they’re such an amazing communicator that they can fix it.

I think Obama is your typical con-artist.. they create an image and sell everyone on it by talking. Ever notice how Obama just rambles on when he answers a question. Never just an answer, but always trying way too hard to say something slick. If he was brief I might have respect for him, but I think he’s super conceited – a snake in the grass.

[anxvariety]

Obama may get elected. Once there he will try and talk his way through everything and get crushed. That’s like some egomaniacal person thinking they can fix your marriage by talking to both people.. they’re not thinking in terms of what’s at stake, but that they’re such an amazing communicator that they can fix it.

I think Obama is your typical con-artist.. they create an image and sell everyone on it by talking. Ever notice how Obama just rambles on when he answers a question. Never just an answer, but always trying way too hard to say something slick. If he was brief I might have respect for him, but I think he’s super conceited – a snake in the grass.

[anxvariety]

Obama may get elected. Once there he will try and talk his way through everything and get crushed. That’s like some egomaniacal person thinking they can fix your marriage by talking to both people.. they’re not thinking in terms of what’s at stake, but that they’re such an amazing communicator that they can fix it.

I think Obama is your typical con-artist.. they create an image and sell everyone on it by talking. Ever notice how Obama just rambles on when he answers a question. Never just an answer, but always trying way too hard to say something slick. If he was brief I might have respect for him, but I think he’s super conceited – a snake in the grass.

[anxvariety]

Obama may get elected. Once there he will try and talk his way through everything and get crushed. That’s like some egomaniacal person thinking they can fix your marriage by talking to both people.. they’re not thinking in terms of what’s at stake, but that they’re such an amazing communicator that they can fix it.

I think Obama is your typical con-artist.. they create an image and sell everyone on it by talking. Ever notice how Obama just rambles on when he answers a question. Never just an answer, but always trying way too hard to say something slick. If he was brief I might have respect for him, but I think he’s super conceited – a snake in the grass.

[DWCAP]

Why do people keep needing the GOV to “save” us? I dont want the government to save me. I dont want the government deciding who deserves a house and who doesn’t (read: has to pay inflated prices). And I dont want the government interjecting themselves into the private sector. They have a HORRIBLE record in all of that and the only reason they have not been tossed is that is called treason and technically punishable by death. (along with peoples appathy for anyone but those they know)

What I want the government to do is to maintain an army that can defend the nation if called on, provide basic public services like schools and police and fire and roads, and regulate markets such that orderly and fair markets exist. (plus little things like national parks, NASA, NIH, weather forecasting and maybe a few more.) Now regulating markets is the problem right now, and is alittle open to interpertation based on what side of the coin you are on. But everyone agrees that some regulations shouldnt have been deregulated and that regulators were asleep at the wheel for those that still exist. Rewrite sensable regulation based on sound economic fundamentals, Get some politicial seperation between politics and the regulators so they will “throw the flag” when needed and not 7 years too late, and stop bailing out bad companies with inept managment.

But Please stop trying to “save” me. All you are doing is makeing it harder to swim on my own.

[DWCAP]

Why do people keep needing the GOV to “save” us? I dont want the government to save me. I dont want the government deciding who deserves a house and who doesn’t (read: has to pay inflated prices). And I dont want the government interjecting themselves into the private sector. They have a HORRIBLE record in all of that and the only reason they have not been tossed is that is called treason and technically punishable by death. (along with peoples appathy for anyone but those they know)

What I want the government to do is to maintain an army that can defend the nation if called on, provide basic public services like schools and police and fire and roads, and regulate markets such that orderly and fair markets exist. (plus little things like national parks, NASA, NIH, weather forecasting and maybe a few more.) Now regulating markets is the problem right now, and is alittle open to interpertation based on what side of the coin you are on. But everyone agrees that some regulations shouldnt have been deregulated and that regulators were asleep at the wheel for those that still exist. Rewrite sensable regulation based on sound economic fundamentals, Get some politicial seperation between politics and the regulators so they will “throw the flag” when needed and not 7 years too late, and stop bailing out bad companies with inept managment.

But Please stop trying to “save” me. All you are doing is makeing it harder to swim on my own.

[DWCAP]

Why do people keep needing the GOV to “save” us? I dont want the government to save me. I dont want the government deciding who deserves a house and who doesn’t (read: has to pay inflated prices). And I dont want the government interjecting themselves into the private sector. They have a HORRIBLE record in all of that and the only reason they have not been tossed is that is called treason and technically punishable by death. (along with peoples appathy for anyone but those they know)

What I want the government to do is to maintain an army that can defend the nation if called on, provide basic public services like schools and police and fire and roads, and regulate markets such that orderly and fair markets exist. (plus little things like national parks, NASA, NIH, weather forecasting and maybe a few more.) Now regulating markets is the problem right now, and is alittle open to interpertation based on what side of the coin you are on. But everyone agrees that some regulations shouldnt have been deregulated and that regulators were asleep at the wheel for those that still exist. Rewrite sensable regulation based on sound economic fundamentals, Get some politicial seperation between politics and the regulators so they will “throw the flag” when needed and not 7 years too late, and stop bailing out bad companies with inept managment.

But Please stop trying to “save” me. All you are doing is makeing it harder to swim on my own.

[DWCAP]

Why do people keep needing the GOV to “save” us? I dont want the government to save me. I dont want the government deciding who deserves a house and who doesn’t (read: has to pay inflated prices). And I dont want the government interjecting themselves into the private sector. They have a HORRIBLE record in all of that and the only reason they have not been tossed is that is called treason and technically punishable by death. (along with peoples appathy for anyone but those they know)

What I want the government to do is to maintain an army that can defend the nation if called on, provide basic public services like schools and police and fire and roads, and regulate markets such that orderly and fair markets exist. (plus little things like national parks, NASA, NIH, weather forecasting and maybe a few more.) Now regulating markets is the problem right now, and is alittle open to interpertation based on what side of the coin you are on. But everyone agrees that some regulations shouldnt have been deregulated and that regulators were asleep at the wheel for those that still exist. Rewrite sensable regulation based on sound economic fundamentals, Get some politicial seperation between politics and the regulators so they will “throw the flag” when needed and not 7 years too late, and stop bailing out bad companies with inept managment.

But Please stop trying to “save” me. All you are doing is makeing it harder to swim on my own.

[DWCAP]

Why do people keep needing the GOV to “save” us? I dont want the government to save me. I dont want the government deciding who deserves a house and who doesn’t (read: has to pay inflated prices). And I dont want the government interjecting themselves into the private sector. They have a HORRIBLE record in all of that and the only reason they have not been tossed is that is called treason and technically punishable by death. (along with peoples appathy for anyone but those they know)

What I want the government to do is to maintain an army that can defend the nation if called on, provide basic public services like schools and police and fire and roads, and regulate markets such that orderly and fair markets exist. (plus little things like national parks, NASA, NIH, weather forecasting and maybe a few more.) Now regulating markets is the problem right now, and is alittle open to interpertation based on what side of the coin you are on. But everyone agrees that some regulations shouldnt have been deregulated and that regulators were asleep at the wheel for those that still exist. Rewrite sensable regulation based on sound economic fundamentals, Get some politicial seperation between politics and the regulators so they will “throw the flag” when needed and not 7 years too late, and stop bailing out bad companies with inept managment.

But Please stop trying to “save” me. All you are doing is makeing it harder to swim on my own.

[Arraya]

It’s a joke like professional wrestling. Get a grip people.

This is not about ideologies at this point its about the people having a say. If it is not apparent the economic/political entity has taken on a life of its own, you need to pay closer attention.

Check out on of the many bailout protests that was not covered by the media.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=096_1222744802

[Arraya]

It’s a joke like professional wrestling. Get a grip people.

This is not about ideologies at this point its about the people having a say. If it is not apparent the economic/political entity has taken on a life of its own, you need to pay closer attention.

Check out on of the many bailout protests that was not covered by the media.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=096_1222744802

[Arraya]

It’s a joke like professional wrestling. Get a grip people.

This is not about ideologies at this point its about the people having a say. If it is not apparent the economic/political entity has taken on a life of its own, you need to pay closer attention.

Check out on of the many bailout protests that was not covered by the media.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=096_1222744802

[Arraya]

It’s a joke like professional wrestling. Get a grip people.

This is not about ideologies at this point its about the people having a say. If it is not apparent the economic/political entity has taken on a life of its own, you need to pay closer attention.

Check out on of the many bailout protests that was not covered by the media.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=096_1222744802

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