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May 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM #551539May 18, 2010 at 4:16 PM #552155CoronitaParticipant
[quote=SD Realtor]sdr as I said different lenders have different requirements regarding seasoning. It is not bad advice at all. Sheldon frequently uses Flagstar as his lender. Also every case is unique. How much of the downpayment is gifted, what are the ratios for that particular buyer, also will have bearing on the case. I still stand behind the fact that having the money seasoned is sound advice. Is it mandatory? No. However is it beneficial? Yes I am sure even Sheldon would say that it doesn’t hurt. The more lenders a broker can get the loan from, the better it is for you as a buyer. Similarly being able to shop your loans with a credit union or any of the mainstream banks is never a bad idea as well. A couple weeks in advance along with the escrow time will total up to perhaps 2-3 months by COE. To me that is nicely seasoned.[/quote]
SDR, in your opinion, why do lenders care where the downpayment is from?
May 18, 2010 at 4:16 PM #551569CoronitaParticipant[quote=SD Realtor]sdr as I said different lenders have different requirements regarding seasoning. It is not bad advice at all. Sheldon frequently uses Flagstar as his lender. Also every case is unique. How much of the downpayment is gifted, what are the ratios for that particular buyer, also will have bearing on the case. I still stand behind the fact that having the money seasoned is sound advice. Is it mandatory? No. However is it beneficial? Yes I am sure even Sheldon would say that it doesn’t hurt. The more lenders a broker can get the loan from, the better it is for you as a buyer. Similarly being able to shop your loans with a credit union or any of the mainstream banks is never a bad idea as well. A couple weeks in advance along with the escrow time will total up to perhaps 2-3 months by COE. To me that is nicely seasoned.[/quote]
SDR, in your opinion, why do lenders care where the downpayment is from?
May 18, 2010 at 4:16 PM #552056CoronitaParticipant[quote=SD Realtor]sdr as I said different lenders have different requirements regarding seasoning. It is not bad advice at all. Sheldon frequently uses Flagstar as his lender. Also every case is unique. How much of the downpayment is gifted, what are the ratios for that particular buyer, also will have bearing on the case. I still stand behind the fact that having the money seasoned is sound advice. Is it mandatory? No. However is it beneficial? Yes I am sure even Sheldon would say that it doesn’t hurt. The more lenders a broker can get the loan from, the better it is for you as a buyer. Similarly being able to shop your loans with a credit union or any of the mainstream banks is never a bad idea as well. A couple weeks in advance along with the escrow time will total up to perhaps 2-3 months by COE. To me that is nicely seasoned.[/quote]
SDR, in your opinion, why do lenders care where the downpayment is from?
May 18, 2010 at 4:16 PM #551462CoronitaParticipant[quote=SD Realtor]sdr as I said different lenders have different requirements regarding seasoning. It is not bad advice at all. Sheldon frequently uses Flagstar as his lender. Also every case is unique. How much of the downpayment is gifted, what are the ratios for that particular buyer, also will have bearing on the case. I still stand behind the fact that having the money seasoned is sound advice. Is it mandatory? No. However is it beneficial? Yes I am sure even Sheldon would say that it doesn’t hurt. The more lenders a broker can get the loan from, the better it is for you as a buyer. Similarly being able to shop your loans with a credit union or any of the mainstream banks is never a bad idea as well. A couple weeks in advance along with the escrow time will total up to perhaps 2-3 months by COE. To me that is nicely seasoned.[/quote]
SDR, in your opinion, why do lenders care where the downpayment is from?
May 18, 2010 at 4:16 PM #552433CoronitaParticipant[quote=SD Realtor]sdr as I said different lenders have different requirements regarding seasoning. It is not bad advice at all. Sheldon frequently uses Flagstar as his lender. Also every case is unique. How much of the downpayment is gifted, what are the ratios for that particular buyer, also will have bearing on the case. I still stand behind the fact that having the money seasoned is sound advice. Is it mandatory? No. However is it beneficial? Yes I am sure even Sheldon would say that it doesn’t hurt. The more lenders a broker can get the loan from, the better it is for you as a buyer. Similarly being able to shop your loans with a credit union or any of the mainstream banks is never a bad idea as well. A couple weeks in advance along with the escrow time will total up to perhaps 2-3 months by COE. To me that is nicely seasoned.[/quote]
SDR, in your opinion, why do lenders care where the downpayment is from?
May 18, 2010 at 4:47 PM #551482SD RealtorParticipantFLU I don’t think they care where the money comes from. I have no idea what the underwriting groups use as guidelines to govern the decisions they make, and thus care as to where the money came from. If the money is gifted it usually is no problem at all. A simple gift letter generally suffices and no seasoning is needed at all. However if there are larger sums involved and for some reason the money was not gifted, coming up with it at close of escrow out of the blue is problematic. Usually a 30-60 day seasoning is sufficient but again, different lenders, different guidelines and no gaurantee that 6 months from now those will be static.
I always try to err on the side of caution. To think that todays guidelines will be used by tomorrows underwriter is foolish. Another think that Sheldon (aka HLS) ALWAYS says is that guidelines are quite fluid and seem to change for more rigorous standards. So I would be remiss to imply to anyone that it is no problem to simply come up with the money at closing. Every lender has different criteria. Make no mistake, if your funds are dispersed in stocks, bonds, and various other assets, as long as you disclose them in the loan application, then when closing time comes and you have to liquidate the assets, then move the money to the account you end up wiring from, that is not a problem. You used assets you had already disclosed and the underwriter could account for them.
May 18, 2010 at 4:47 PM #552076SD RealtorParticipantFLU I don’t think they care where the money comes from. I have no idea what the underwriting groups use as guidelines to govern the decisions they make, and thus care as to where the money came from. If the money is gifted it usually is no problem at all. A simple gift letter generally suffices and no seasoning is needed at all. However if there are larger sums involved and for some reason the money was not gifted, coming up with it at close of escrow out of the blue is problematic. Usually a 30-60 day seasoning is sufficient but again, different lenders, different guidelines and no gaurantee that 6 months from now those will be static.
I always try to err on the side of caution. To think that todays guidelines will be used by tomorrows underwriter is foolish. Another think that Sheldon (aka HLS) ALWAYS says is that guidelines are quite fluid and seem to change for more rigorous standards. So I would be remiss to imply to anyone that it is no problem to simply come up with the money at closing. Every lender has different criteria. Make no mistake, if your funds are dispersed in stocks, bonds, and various other assets, as long as you disclose them in the loan application, then when closing time comes and you have to liquidate the assets, then move the money to the account you end up wiring from, that is not a problem. You used assets you had already disclosed and the underwriter could account for them.
May 18, 2010 at 4:47 PM #552175SD RealtorParticipantFLU I don’t think they care where the money comes from. I have no idea what the underwriting groups use as guidelines to govern the decisions they make, and thus care as to where the money came from. If the money is gifted it usually is no problem at all. A simple gift letter generally suffices and no seasoning is needed at all. However if there are larger sums involved and for some reason the money was not gifted, coming up with it at close of escrow out of the blue is problematic. Usually a 30-60 day seasoning is sufficient but again, different lenders, different guidelines and no gaurantee that 6 months from now those will be static.
I always try to err on the side of caution. To think that todays guidelines will be used by tomorrows underwriter is foolish. Another think that Sheldon (aka HLS) ALWAYS says is that guidelines are quite fluid and seem to change for more rigorous standards. So I would be remiss to imply to anyone that it is no problem to simply come up with the money at closing. Every lender has different criteria. Make no mistake, if your funds are dispersed in stocks, bonds, and various other assets, as long as you disclose them in the loan application, then when closing time comes and you have to liquidate the assets, then move the money to the account you end up wiring from, that is not a problem. You used assets you had already disclosed and the underwriter could account for them.
May 18, 2010 at 4:47 PM #552453SD RealtorParticipantFLU I don’t think they care where the money comes from. I have no idea what the underwriting groups use as guidelines to govern the decisions they make, and thus care as to where the money came from. If the money is gifted it usually is no problem at all. A simple gift letter generally suffices and no seasoning is needed at all. However if there are larger sums involved and for some reason the money was not gifted, coming up with it at close of escrow out of the blue is problematic. Usually a 30-60 day seasoning is sufficient but again, different lenders, different guidelines and no gaurantee that 6 months from now those will be static.
I always try to err on the side of caution. To think that todays guidelines will be used by tomorrows underwriter is foolish. Another think that Sheldon (aka HLS) ALWAYS says is that guidelines are quite fluid and seem to change for more rigorous standards. So I would be remiss to imply to anyone that it is no problem to simply come up with the money at closing. Every lender has different criteria. Make no mistake, if your funds are dispersed in stocks, bonds, and various other assets, as long as you disclose them in the loan application, then when closing time comes and you have to liquidate the assets, then move the money to the account you end up wiring from, that is not a problem. You used assets you had already disclosed and the underwriter could account for them.
May 18, 2010 at 4:47 PM #551589SD RealtorParticipantFLU I don’t think they care where the money comes from. I have no idea what the underwriting groups use as guidelines to govern the decisions they make, and thus care as to where the money came from. If the money is gifted it usually is no problem at all. A simple gift letter generally suffices and no seasoning is needed at all. However if there are larger sums involved and for some reason the money was not gifted, coming up with it at close of escrow out of the blue is problematic. Usually a 30-60 day seasoning is sufficient but again, different lenders, different guidelines and no gaurantee that 6 months from now those will be static.
I always try to err on the side of caution. To think that todays guidelines will be used by tomorrows underwriter is foolish. Another think that Sheldon (aka HLS) ALWAYS says is that guidelines are quite fluid and seem to change for more rigorous standards. So I would be remiss to imply to anyone that it is no problem to simply come up with the money at closing. Every lender has different criteria. Make no mistake, if your funds are dispersed in stocks, bonds, and various other assets, as long as you disclose them in the loan application, then when closing time comes and you have to liquidate the assets, then move the money to the account you end up wiring from, that is not a problem. You used assets you had already disclosed and the underwriter could account for them.
May 18, 2010 at 5:01 PM #552205sdrealtorParticipantThe part about needing seasoning was the wrong part but not the bad advice. The bad advice part was putting the parents on the loan if it can be avoided. Guess I should be more clear.
May 18, 2010 at 5:01 PM #552484sdrealtorParticipantThe part about needing seasoning was the wrong part but not the bad advice. The bad advice part was putting the parents on the loan if it can be avoided. Guess I should be more clear.
May 18, 2010 at 5:01 PM #552106sdrealtorParticipantThe part about needing seasoning was the wrong part but not the bad advice. The bad advice part was putting the parents on the loan if it can be avoided. Guess I should be more clear.
May 18, 2010 at 5:01 PM #551512sdrealtorParticipantThe part about needing seasoning was the wrong part but not the bad advice. The bad advice part was putting the parents on the loan if it can be avoided. Guess I should be more clear.
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