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December 18, 2015 at 9:50 AM #792670December 18, 2015 at 9:58 AM #792671scaredyclassicParticipant
[quote=doofrat]I’d say this Johnny Cash quote is appropriate:
Success is having to worry about every damn thing in the world, except money.[/quote]I guess, but didn’t he go bankrupt at some point?
December 18, 2015 at 10:02 AM #792672moneymakerParticipantI don’t think you’ll find the answer in the bible, but by all means look scaredy. I think money represents security, at least for a lot of people it does. Nothing wrong with feeling secure, in fact it can be empowering. But as we all know now money can not always “fix the feeling of being safe and secure” as our government is spending hordes of money on that and I don’t feel any more secure .
December 18, 2015 at 10:17 AM #792674FlyerInHiGuest[quote=harvey][quote=FlyerInHi]Economists don’t care about anything but money. They say it’s the best measure of success.[/quote]
Economists do not study money, they study behavior.[/quote]
I suppose…. Behavior related to money and incentives.
December 18, 2015 at 10:18 AM #792673NotCrankyParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]I’m trying to find where in the bible it says how much cash we need before we dont have to worry anymore?[/quote]
I think it says you live by the love you give , the earth will support you for love and there is no need to be afraid as long as you are giving love to G_D. Fishes and loaves will fall out of the sky and stuff. Not sure where it says that but maybe it works.December 18, 2015 at 10:19 AM #792675scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=moneymaker]I don’t think you’ll find the answer in the bible, but by all means look scaredy. I think money represents security, at least for a lot of people it does. Nothing wrong with feeling secure, in fact it can be empowering. But as we all know now money can not always “fix the feeling of being safe and secure” as our government is spending hordes of money on that and I don’t feel any more secure .[/quote]
It’s difficult to beat great storehouses of wheat and grain for that secure feeling. Paper money, or digital money, not quite as secure feeling.
Also, many sons with strong backs.
December 18, 2015 at 10:25 AM #792676scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=moneymaker]I don’t think you’ll find the answer in the bible, but by all means look scaredy. I think money represents security, at least for a lot of people it does. Nothing wrong with feeling secure, in fact it can be empowering. But as we all know now money can not always “fix the feeling of being safe and secure” as our government is spending hordes of money on that and I don’t feel any more secure .[/quote]
Wait…found it!
The Parable of the Rich Fool
13 Someone in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.”14 Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you?” 15 Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.”
16 And he told them this parable: “The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest. 17 He thought to himself, ‘What shall I do? I have no place to store my crops.’
18 “Then he said, ‘This is what I’ll do. I will tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I will store my surplus grain. 19 And I’ll say to myself, “You have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’
20 “But God said to him, ‘You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?’
21 “This is how it will be with whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God.”
Do Not Worry
22 Then Jesus said to his disciples: “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear. 23 For life is more than food, and the body more than clothes. 24 Consider the ravens: They do not sow or reap, they have no storeroom or barn; yet God feeds them. And how much more valuable you are than birds! 25 Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to your life[b]? 26 Since you cannot do this very little thing, why do you worry about the rest?27 “Consider how the wild flowers grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you, not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 28 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today, and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, how much more will he clothe you—you of little faith! 29 And do not set your heart on what you will eat or drink; do not worry about it. 30 For the pagan world runs after all such things, and your Father knows that you need them. 31 But seek his kingdom, and these things will be given to you as well.
32 “Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom. 33 Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
December 18, 2015 at 10:29 AM #792677scaredyclassicParticipantSounds completely batshit crazy, doesn’t it?!!
December 18, 2015 at 10:32 AM #792678NotCrankyParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]Sounds completely batshit crazy, doesn’t it?!![/quote]
The part denouncing hoarding wheat too excessively doesn’t sound too crazy, it sounds wise to me, but the rest is just nuts.December 18, 2015 at 10:44 AM #792680scaredyclassicParticipantThe Jewish perspective does not particularly like poverty…
Rabbi Elazar ben Azaryah says: If there is no Torah study, there is no derech eretz (worldly involvement); if there is no derech eretz, there is no Torah study. If there is no wisdom, there is no fear of God; if there is no fear of God, there is no wisdom. If there is no reason, there is no understanding; if there is no understanding, there is no reason. If there is no flour, there is no Torah; if there is no Torah, there is no flour.
Ethics of the Fathers, 3:2
Not sure what it means exactly, but it’s pretty clear jews are expected to get their own bread, but that goal is related to studying torah.
December 18, 2015 at 10:45 AM #792681scaredyclassicParticipant[quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic]Sounds completely batshit crazy, doesn’t it?!![/quote]
The part denouncing hoarding wheat too excessively doesn’t sound too crazy, it sounds wise to me, but the rest is just nuts.[/quote]Isn’t the piles of wheat a metaphor for a big fat 401k?
December 18, 2015 at 10:47 AM #792682DoofratParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=doofrat]I’d say this Johnny Cash quote is appropriate:
Success is having to worry about every damn thing in the world, except money.[/quote]I guess, but didn’t he go bankrupt at some point?[/quote]
Yep, but that only added one more worry 😉
December 18, 2015 at 10:51 AM #792683DoofratParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]I’m trying to find where in the bible it says how much cash we need before we dont have to worry anymore?[/quote]
You don’t have to worry about cash, all you need is god’s love, so feel free to tithe well.
December 18, 2015 at 10:51 AM #792684NotCrankyParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=Blogstar][quote=scaredyclassic]Sounds completely batshit crazy, doesn’t it?!![/quote]
The part denouncing hoarding wheat too excessively doesn’t sound too crazy, it sounds wise to me, but the rest is just nuts.[/quote]Isn’t the piles of wheat a metaphor for a big fat 401k?[/quote]
So?December 18, 2015 at 10:56 AM #792685scaredyclassicParticipantPiggington is a bunch of pagan runners.
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