ot; kid studying engineering

[jstoesz]

Eaves I agree with much of what you said. I would like to add one thing in particular that might help flesh out what I am saying, especially in regard to Engineering kids washing out into the b-school. First, I think the B-school at Cal Poly while I believe to be fairly well regarded is probably nothing special.

There are lots of different intelligences out there. My wife is insanely smart, graduated with a 4.0 undergrad, and graduated with honors for her masters. Me, I barely breached a B average. Do I disparage her for graduating with a kinese degree and going into PA school? No way, that is something I will never be capable of. But could she pass a single midlevel engineering course, very doubtful. She is just not wired that way. For the record, she likes calculus. I could never hold more than three things in my head at a time, so I could never pass am entry bio or physiology class. As far as business majors, I think that many engineers lack the ability to being successful in business (I am guessing you agree). They are far too interested in the esoteric problems, what they deem “cool,” and lack a certain degree of vision and sociability. I am not saying business majors make up for their stupidity with personality, whip smart people exist everywhere, only their flavor of stupid tends to be different.

edit: Looks like the Cal Poly B-school is pretty good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orfalea_College_of_Business

No warton though

[Rhett]

[quote=sdduuuude]If you go to grad school, pay the big bucks and go to a top school. This way only 1/3 of your education is expensive and you still get the big-name school on the resume, and you get the better education when you are more mature and actually interested in learning something.[/quote]

I do not know of a single graduate program in engineering, at least among any of the top schools, that costs the students anything. Stipends probably are at least $30K (and maybe well over that) at any of the top programs.

[Rhett]

[quote=sdduuuude]If you go to grad school, pay the big bucks and go to a top school. This way only 1/3 of your education is expensive and you still get the big-name school on the resume, and you get the better education when you are more mature and actually interested in learning something.[/quote]

I do not know of a single graduate program in engineering, at least among any of the top schools, that costs the students anything. Stipends probably are at least $30K (and maybe well over that) at any of the top programs.

[Rhett]

[quote=sdduuuude]If you go to grad school, pay the big bucks and go to a top school. This way only 1/3 of your education is expensive and you still get the big-name school on the resume, and you get the better education when you are more mature and actually interested in learning something.[/quote]

I do not know of a single graduate program in engineering, at least among any of the top schools, that costs the students anything. Stipends probably are at least $30K (and maybe well over that) at any of the top programs.

[Rhett]

[quote=sdduuuude]If you go to grad school, pay the big bucks and go to a top school. This way only 1/3 of your education is expensive and you still get the big-name school on the resume, and you get the better education when you are more mature and actually interested in learning something.[/quote]

I do not know of a single graduate program in engineering, at least among any of the top schools, that costs the students anything. Stipends probably are at least $30K (and maybe well over that) at any of the top programs.

[Rhett]

[quote=sdduuuude]If you go to grad school, pay the big bucks and go to a top school. This way only 1/3 of your education is expensive and you still get the big-name school on the resume, and you get the better education when you are more mature and actually interested in learning something.[/quote]

I do not know of a single graduate program in engineering, at least among any of the top schools, that costs the students anything. Stipends probably are at least $30K (and maybe well over that) at any of the top programs.

[jstoesz]

[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.

Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]

It all depends on which college you apply to.

Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.

[jstoesz]

[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.

Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]

It all depends on which college you apply to.

Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.

[jstoesz]

[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.

Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]

It all depends on which college you apply to.

Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.

[jstoesz]

[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.

Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]

It all depends on which college you apply to.

Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.

[jstoesz]

[quote=joec]Some Cal Poly SLO talk, but for whatever reason, I got denied admittance there while I got accepted into UC Berkeley, UCLA, Davis, San Diego, a few state schools, etc.

Not sure if it is that family connection thing or what. Didn’t apply back then to more expensive schools since I don’t think my parents wanted to pay out of state tuition or private schools.[/quote]

It all depends on which college you apply to.

Some departments were less than 10% acceptance rate, and others where over 50%…if I remember correctly.

[njtosd]

I haven’t noticed anyone mention patent law. It’s a great field if you like engineering/biotech/chemistry and you can write and speak well (that is, if you want to do more than just write patent applications). You need a good technical degree (best are EE, chem E, chemistry or an advanced molecular biology degree) and a law degree, although I’ve known a lot of people who went to night school to get their law degree while working as “technical assistants” or in some similar position at a patent law firm. The job is particularly good for impatient types who like engineering but feel that results are too slow. You get exposure to a wide range of technologies and a lot of interesting ideas. Plus, starting salaries are around $120,000 at good firms.

[njtosd]

I haven’t noticed anyone mention patent law. It’s a great field if you like engineering/biotech/chemistry and you can write and speak well (that is, if you want to do more than just write patent applications). You need a good technical degree (best are EE, chem E, chemistry or an advanced molecular biology degree) and a law degree, although I’ve known a lot of people who went to night school to get their law degree while working as “technical assistants” or in some similar position at a patent law firm. The job is particularly good for impatient types who like engineering but feel that results are too slow. You get exposure to a wide range of technologies and a lot of interesting ideas. Plus, starting salaries are around $120,000 at good firms.

[njtosd]

I haven’t noticed anyone mention patent law. It’s a great field if you like engineering/biotech/chemistry and you can write and speak well (that is, if you want to do more than just write patent applications). You need a good technical degree (best are EE, chem E, chemistry or an advanced molecular biology degree) and a law degree, although I’ve known a lot of people who went to night school to get their law degree while working as “technical assistants” or in some similar position at a patent law firm. The job is particularly good for impatient types who like engineering but feel that results are too slow. You get exposure to a wide range of technologies and a lot of interesting ideas. Plus, starting salaries are around $120,000 at good firms.

[njtosd]

I haven’t noticed anyone mention patent law. It’s a great field if you like engineering/biotech/chemistry and you can write and speak well (that is, if you want to do more than just write patent applications). You need a good technical degree (best are EE, chem E, chemistry or an advanced molecular biology degree) and a law degree, although I’ve known a lot of people who went to night school to get their law degree while working as “technical assistants” or in some similar position at a patent law firm. The job is particularly good for impatient types who like engineering but feel that results are too slow. You get exposure to a wide range of technologies and a lot of interesting ideas. Plus, starting salaries are around $120,000 at good firms.

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