OT: Jury Duty! Help!

[dharmagirl]

Hi PD,

I will pass on your feedback to my pal. From what I recall, her attorney painted a fairly scary picture of “what ifs” and that is what convinced her to just go for the lesser charge and get it over with.

I suppose this kind of thing does happen all the time. I was outraged because I can understand how any woman might be panicked to answer the door to a crowd of people while still in pajamas with bed hair.

She knows people at the firm where the job offer is coming from, but is embarassed to have to tell them that she was arrested and convicted of a MD. I’ve assured her that it’s such a bizarre story that most people will probably be sort of riveted rather than judgmental. The note is a good idea.

Linda still has no idea WHAT they were looking for in the house that day, but she thinks it was more sinister. Her husband cant discuss anything related to his job (she doesnt even know where his office is located). This put a horrific strain on their marriage.

Ah, well..it’s just like the post from a couple of weeks ago. Cant remember what it was about, but I remember that HarryB and I were bantering about how no one should get too comfy in their own skin….it’s the old “you never know what’s gonna happen to you on any given day” thing. Again, like Kevin Spacey’s character in American Beauty – “Today is the day I die” (or whatever the line was).

My who has never done anything wrong in her life, volunteers her time for good causes, and is well educated, certainly did not expect to be charged with a felony that morning.

Life IS funny sometimes.

PD, you’ve inspired me to go have a glass of wine!

[nostradamus]

I am a law-biding citizen in shock about what I’m reading from publicdefender. I hope I’m reading this wrong: Prosecutors charge people for higher crimes than what they THINK was actually committed, hoping to beat out a plea bargain? What if this is one of the cases where the defendant is actually innocent? His choices then, are plead guilty to get this “bargain” OR you’re going to charge him with a higher crime? Isn’t that a gestapo tactic? So you don’t try people for the crimes you think they committed? It’s not a “bargain”. It’s “plead guilty to what we think you did or I’m going to frame you for something worse”.

I was on a jury. Two cops, both over 6′ tall and 200+ pounds, felt it necessary to batter, then hogtie, THEN mace an unarmed woman who had tried to return merchandise to a store when she had a dispute with the manager (who called the cops). The woman was 5′ tall and 100 pounds. They knocked out her front teeth when they threw her face-first onto the concrete. Did I mention they maced her while she was hogtied? So here’s the “American justice” part: THEY charged HER with assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest, and other really obviously lame, trumped-up charges. Before that trial I had no issues with law enforcement. Afterwards, I had to ask: what happened to real men? These pussies couldn’t handle a 100-lb woman more decently?

Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are cops out there who will mash you up then charge you with assault? Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are prosecutors out there using gestapo tactics and who don’t care if you’re guilty? Doesn’t it scare you that these cops and these prosecutors work together?

Has anyone followed the 14-year old in Scripps Ranch who allegedly murdered her mother? Maybe your friend will get on that jury. They’ve already announced she will be tried as an adult. Question: why have different courts for children vs. adults when it seems in the cases where the distinction is MOST critical, they seem to always railroad the child to adult court? Seems like lynch mob mentality.

Yes, drink heavily, or you will surely be outraged as I am (man I need a drink). Time to unleash the purple angel.

[nostradamus]

I am a law-biding citizen in shock about what I’m reading from publicdefender. I hope I’m reading this wrong: Prosecutors charge people for higher crimes than what they THINK was actually committed, hoping to beat out a plea bargain? What if this is one of the cases where the defendant is actually innocent? His choices then, are plead guilty to get this “bargain” OR you’re going to charge him with a higher crime? Isn’t that a gestapo tactic? So you don’t try people for the crimes you think they committed? It’s not a “bargain”. It’s “plead guilty to what we think you did or I’m going to frame you for something worse”.

I was on a jury. Two cops, both over 6′ tall and 200+ pounds, felt it necessary to batter, then hogtie, THEN mace an unarmed woman who had tried to return merchandise to a store when she had a dispute with the manager (who called the cops). The woman was 5′ tall and 100 pounds. They knocked out her front teeth when they threw her face-first onto the concrete. Did I mention they maced her while she was hogtied? So here’s the “American justice” part: THEY charged HER with assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest, and other really obviously lame, trumped-up charges. Before that trial I had no issues with law enforcement. Afterwards, I had to ask: what happened to real men? These pussies couldn’t handle a 100-lb woman more decently?

Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are cops out there who will mash you up then charge you with assault? Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are prosecutors out there using gestapo tactics and who don’t care if you’re guilty? Doesn’t it scare you that these cops and these prosecutors work together?

Has anyone followed the 14-year old in Scripps Ranch who allegedly murdered her mother? Maybe your friend will get on that jury. They’ve already announced she will be tried as an adult. Question: why have different courts for children vs. adults when it seems in the cases where the distinction is MOST critical, they seem to always railroad the child to adult court? Seems like lynch mob mentality.

Yes, drink heavily, or you will surely be outraged as I am (man I need a drink). Time to unleash the purple angel.

[nostradamus]

I am a law-biding citizen in shock about what I’m reading from publicdefender. I hope I’m reading this wrong: Prosecutors charge people for higher crimes than what they THINK was actually committed, hoping to beat out a plea bargain? What if this is one of the cases where the defendant is actually innocent? His choices then, are plead guilty to get this “bargain” OR you’re going to charge him with a higher crime? Isn’t that a gestapo tactic? So you don’t try people for the crimes you think they committed? It’s not a “bargain”. It’s “plead guilty to what we think you did or I’m going to frame you for something worse”.

I was on a jury. Two cops, both over 6′ tall and 200+ pounds, felt it necessary to batter, then hogtie, THEN mace an unarmed woman who had tried to return merchandise to a store when she had a dispute with the manager (who called the cops). The woman was 5′ tall and 100 pounds. They knocked out her front teeth when they threw her face-first onto the concrete. Did I mention they maced her while she was hogtied? So here’s the “American justice” part: THEY charged HER with assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest, and other really obviously lame, trumped-up charges. Before that trial I had no issues with law enforcement. Afterwards, I had to ask: what happened to real men? These pussies couldn’t handle a 100-lb woman more decently?

Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are cops out there who will mash you up then charge you with assault? Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are prosecutors out there using gestapo tactics and who don’t care if you’re guilty? Doesn’t it scare you that these cops and these prosecutors work together?

Has anyone followed the 14-year old in Scripps Ranch who allegedly murdered her mother? Maybe your friend will get on that jury. They’ve already announced she will be tried as an adult. Question: why have different courts for children vs. adults when it seems in the cases where the distinction is MOST critical, they seem to always railroad the child to adult court? Seems like lynch mob mentality.

Yes, drink heavily, or you will surely be outraged as I am (man I need a drink). Time to unleash the purple angel.

[nostradamus]

I am a law-biding citizen in shock about what I’m reading from publicdefender. I hope I’m reading this wrong: Prosecutors charge people for higher crimes than what they THINK was actually committed, hoping to beat out a plea bargain? What if this is one of the cases where the defendant is actually innocent? His choices then, are plead guilty to get this “bargain” OR you’re going to charge him with a higher crime? Isn’t that a gestapo tactic? So you don’t try people for the crimes you think they committed? It’s not a “bargain”. It’s “plead guilty to what we think you did or I’m going to frame you for something worse”.

I was on a jury. Two cops, both over 6′ tall and 200+ pounds, felt it necessary to batter, then hogtie, THEN mace an unarmed woman who had tried to return merchandise to a store when she had a dispute with the manager (who called the cops). The woman was 5′ tall and 100 pounds. They knocked out her front teeth when they threw her face-first onto the concrete. Did I mention they maced her while she was hogtied? So here’s the “American justice” part: THEY charged HER with assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest, and other really obviously lame, trumped-up charges. Before that trial I had no issues with law enforcement. Afterwards, I had to ask: what happened to real men? These pussies couldn’t handle a 100-lb woman more decently?

Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are cops out there who will mash you up then charge you with assault? Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are prosecutors out there using gestapo tactics and who don’t care if you’re guilty? Doesn’t it scare you that these cops and these prosecutors work together?

Has anyone followed the 14-year old in Scripps Ranch who allegedly murdered her mother? Maybe your friend will get on that jury. They’ve already announced she will be tried as an adult. Question: why have different courts for children vs. adults when it seems in the cases where the distinction is MOST critical, they seem to always railroad the child to adult court? Seems like lynch mob mentality.

Yes, drink heavily, or you will surely be outraged as I am (man I need a drink). Time to unleash the purple angel.

[nostradamus]

I am a law-biding citizen in shock about what I’m reading from publicdefender. I hope I’m reading this wrong: Prosecutors charge people for higher crimes than what they THINK was actually committed, hoping to beat out a plea bargain? What if this is one of the cases where the defendant is actually innocent? His choices then, are plead guilty to get this “bargain” OR you’re going to charge him with a higher crime? Isn’t that a gestapo tactic? So you don’t try people for the crimes you think they committed? It’s not a “bargain”. It’s “plead guilty to what we think you did or I’m going to frame you for something worse”.

I was on a jury. Two cops, both over 6′ tall and 200+ pounds, felt it necessary to batter, then hogtie, THEN mace an unarmed woman who had tried to return merchandise to a store when she had a dispute with the manager (who called the cops). The woman was 5′ tall and 100 pounds. They knocked out her front teeth when they threw her face-first onto the concrete. Did I mention they maced her while she was hogtied? So here’s the “American justice” part: THEY charged HER with assaulting a police officer, resisting arrest, and other really obviously lame, trumped-up charges. Before that trial I had no issues with law enforcement. Afterwards, I had to ask: what happened to real men? These pussies couldn’t handle a 100-lb woman more decently?

Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are cops out there who will mash you up then charge you with assault? Doesn’t it scare you to know that there are prosecutors out there using gestapo tactics and who don’t care if you’re guilty? Doesn’t it scare you that these cops and these prosecutors work together?

Has anyone followed the 14-year old in Scripps Ranch who allegedly murdered her mother? Maybe your friend will get on that jury. They’ve already announced she will be tried as an adult. Question: why have different courts for children vs. adults when it seems in the cases where the distinction is MOST critical, they seem to always railroad the child to adult court? Seems like lynch mob mentality.

Yes, drink heavily, or you will surely be outraged as I am (man I need a drink). Time to unleash the purple angel.

[Ash Housewares]

I’m with h82rent- two engineering degrees, and was selected the only time I’ve been summoned (assault w/deadly weapon).

This thread has been an eye-opener, and I already have a drink.

[Ash Housewares]

I’m with h82rent- two engineering degrees, and was selected the only time I’ve been summoned (assault w/deadly weapon).

This thread has been an eye-opener, and I already have a drink.

[Ash Housewares]

I’m with h82rent- two engineering degrees, and was selected the only time I’ve been summoned (assault w/deadly weapon).

This thread has been an eye-opener, and I already have a drink.

[Ash Housewares]

I’m with h82rent- two engineering degrees, and was selected the only time I’ve been summoned (assault w/deadly weapon).

This thread has been an eye-opener, and I already have a drink.

[Ash Housewares]

I’m with h82rent- two engineering degrees, and was selected the only time I’ve been summoned (assault w/deadly weapon).

This thread has been an eye-opener, and I already have a drink.

[dharmagirl]

I’m actually outraged with our justice system after watching my friend go through what seemed like a complete travesty of “justice.”

I DON’T know many women who would be eager to open their front door when bra-less, still in pajamas, and hair sticking up in every direction – much less when it looks like a crowd of people is at the door.

Linda may have technically “obstructed” their efforts to legally enter her house with her reaction to shut the door, but she thinks she was charged because they couldnt find anything to hang her husband with, and needed to justify the expense of the search.

When I read what PD wrote about charging people with more serious crimes – just to get a lower plea – it made me queasy. It’s just so wrong.

[dharmagirl]

I’m actually outraged with our justice system after watching my friend go through what seemed like a complete travesty of “justice.”

I DON’T know many women who would be eager to open their front door when bra-less, still in pajamas, and hair sticking up in every direction – much less when it looks like a crowd of people is at the door.

Linda may have technically “obstructed” their efforts to legally enter her house with her reaction to shut the door, but she thinks she was charged because they couldnt find anything to hang her husband with, and needed to justify the expense of the search.

When I read what PD wrote about charging people with more serious crimes – just to get a lower plea – it made me queasy. It’s just so wrong.

[dharmagirl]

I’m actually outraged with our justice system after watching my friend go through what seemed like a complete travesty of “justice.”

I DON’T know many women who would be eager to open their front door when bra-less, still in pajamas, and hair sticking up in every direction – much less when it looks like a crowd of people is at the door.

Linda may have technically “obstructed” their efforts to legally enter her house with her reaction to shut the door, but she thinks she was charged because they couldnt find anything to hang her husband with, and needed to justify the expense of the search.

When I read what PD wrote about charging people with more serious crimes – just to get a lower plea – it made me queasy. It’s just so wrong.

[dharmagirl]

I’m actually outraged with our justice system after watching my friend go through what seemed like a complete travesty of “justice.”

I DON’T know many women who would be eager to open their front door when bra-less, still in pajamas, and hair sticking up in every direction – much less when it looks like a crowd of people is at the door.

Linda may have technically “obstructed” their efforts to legally enter her house with her reaction to shut the door, but she thinks she was charged because they couldnt find anything to hang her husband with, and needed to justify the expense of the search.

When I read what PD wrote about charging people with more serious crimes – just to get a lower plea – it made me queasy. It’s just so wrong.

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