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February 12, 2008 at 10:03 AM #152333February 12, 2008 at 10:03 AM #152066XBoxBoyParticipant
Keeping away from the question of whether Barack and his policies will be good or bad, and sticking to your original question, should we be afraid of Barack Obama being assassinated, let me point out that virtual all assassination attempts in recent US history have more to do with mental illness than with policies. Hinkley didn’t have policy objects to Reagan, nor did Squeaky Fromm when she tried to shoot Ford.
Worth mentioning also is that despite death threats, and plenty of terrorists who would love to knock off W, the Secret Service has been pretty darn effective in recent years. Other than the loss of JFK, I can’t think of a protected president that has been killed in modern times. (Okay, Reagan was shot, but he did survive)
Now, to the question of does Barack being a minority raise his chances of assassination? For a minute, let’s put on our tin foil hats, and let’s buy into the notion that these assassination are conspiracy plots put in motion by a secret cabal who controls the financial world. If this conspiracy theory is true then being a minority has little to do with it. As a matter of fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if this cabal isn’t thinking, “Hey you know a minority president would help keep people thinking that we don’t exist. I mean after all who’s going to believe some guy named Barack Obama is being controlled by us?” Following this line of thinking, I think the most likely candidate to take a bullet is not Barak, but Ron Paul. Can you for one second imagine what our cabal would be thinking if Ron Paul were to actually be viewed as a contender??? My god, they’d be having a fit.
Okay, as much as I enjoy the tin foil hat, guess I should take it off and provide a couple of other views. First is that there are plenty of white male rednecks, (myself included) that would be glad to have a non-white male president, because quite frankly I’m tired of the talk about how white males have messed everything up. Let someone else mess it up for a while, and stop blaming my ethnic group. And to be honest yeah, I’ve got the typical guilt that comes from being named after a man who owned slaves. It’s the same reason we voted to let the Indians run our casinos.
And, if I want to ignore the guilt thing, there is also the bit that I was raised in a nice family where manners were stressed. And quite frankly, if someone other than a white male wants the job, then by george, maybe we should let them have their turn. It’s only polite.
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February 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM #152449patientlywaitingParticipantTo answer the safety question, I believe that the “rednecks” (who supposedly could never countenance a Black president) are so dispirited right now with their economic lot that they would likely welcome a change. (They don’t know it yet, but I think they can accept a change if that change is to their economic benefit).
If Obama were to be assassinated (as you are suggesting) it would be the “establishment” that does the deed (if he, as President, were to threaten their privilege) rather than any kind of racist nut-job. But it will probably be blamed on a racist nut-job.
February 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM #152349patientlywaitingParticipantTo answer the safety question, I believe that the “rednecks” (who supposedly could never countenance a Black president) are so dispirited right now with their economic lot that they would likely welcome a change. (They don’t know it yet, but I think they can accept a change if that change is to their economic benefit).
If Obama were to be assassinated (as you are suggesting) it would be the “establishment” that does the deed (if he, as President, were to threaten their privilege) rather than any kind of racist nut-job. But it will probably be blamed on a racist nut-job.
February 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM #152356patientlywaitingParticipantTo answer the safety question, I believe that the “rednecks” (who supposedly could never countenance a Black president) are so dispirited right now with their economic lot that they would likely welcome a change. (They don’t know it yet, but I think they can accept a change if that change is to their economic benefit).
If Obama were to be assassinated (as you are suggesting) it would be the “establishment” that does the deed (if he, as President, were to threaten their privilege) rather than any kind of racist nut-job. But it will probably be blamed on a racist nut-job.
February 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM #152081patientlywaitingParticipantTo answer the safety question, I believe that the “rednecks” (who supposedly could never countenance a Black president) are so dispirited right now with their economic lot that they would likely welcome a change. (They don’t know it yet, but I think they can accept a change if that change is to their economic benefit).
If Obama were to be assassinated (as you are suggesting) it would be the “establishment” that does the deed (if he, as President, were to threaten their privilege) rather than any kind of racist nut-job. But it will probably be blamed on a racist nut-job.
February 12, 2008 at 10:08 AM #152377patientlywaitingParticipantTo answer the safety question, I believe that the “rednecks” (who supposedly could never countenance a Black president) are so dispirited right now with their economic lot that they would likely welcome a change. (They don’t know it yet, but I think they can accept a change if that change is to their economic benefit).
If Obama were to be assassinated (as you are suggesting) it would be the “establishment” that does the deed (if he, as President, were to threaten their privilege) rather than any kind of racist nut-job. But it will probably be blamed on a racist nut-job.
February 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM #152096RaybyrnesParticipantBO is a great orator. I believe his graduating form harvard law probably qualifies him as a highly intellectual person aswell, but what makes one think that he has the skill sets or experience to lead. W
hile I would not have a hard time supporting a black president or female president I still wonder if the South could bring themselves to support either of the 2 condidates.
I look forward to hearing the debates.
February 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM #152366RaybyrnesParticipantBO is a great orator. I believe his graduating form harvard law probably qualifies him as a highly intellectual person aswell, but what makes one think that he has the skill sets or experience to lead. W
hile I would not have a hard time supporting a black president or female president I still wonder if the South could bring themselves to support either of the 2 condidates.
I look forward to hearing the debates.
February 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM #152373RaybyrnesParticipantBO is a great orator. I believe his graduating form harvard law probably qualifies him as a highly intellectual person aswell, but what makes one think that he has the skill sets or experience to lead. W
hile I would not have a hard time supporting a black president or female president I still wonder if the South could bring themselves to support either of the 2 condidates.
I look forward to hearing the debates.
February 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM #152464RaybyrnesParticipantBO is a great orator. I believe his graduating form harvard law probably qualifies him as a highly intellectual person aswell, but what makes one think that he has the skill sets or experience to lead. W
hile I would not have a hard time supporting a black president or female president I still wonder if the South could bring themselves to support either of the 2 condidates.
I look forward to hearing the debates.
February 12, 2008 at 10:21 AM #152393RaybyrnesParticipantBO is a great orator. I believe his graduating form harvard law probably qualifies him as a highly intellectual person aswell, but what makes one think that he has the skill sets or experience to lead. W
hile I would not have a hard time supporting a black president or female president I still wonder if the South could bring themselves to support either of the 2 condidates.
I look forward to hearing the debates.
February 12, 2008 at 10:29 AM #152479crParticipantDepends what you mean by safe: safe personally or safe for the US.
No president is “safe”.
Safe for the U.S.? That depends on your income level primarily.
I get tired of hearing people blame W for economic woes – yes the war is an expense we’d be better off without, and yes it contributes to higher oil, but so do lower rates, so really Greenspun and Berhanky are equally culpable.
The self-proclaimed intelligent anti-conservative “non-liberals” who think B.O. is the best thing for this country, despite his lack of experience and his own personal Religious dedication, don’t realize he still does nothing more than shovel empty promises he can’t deliver.
It’s one thing to want change, but another to want it so bad that the consequences of the alterative are ignored. And if he does win the liberals/lobbyists and Oprah will be running the country anyway, like the oil companies do now.
Obama may have a nice smile, but unless that’s worth paying higher taxes for, I suggest you reconsider.
February 12, 2008 at 10:29 AM #152408crParticipantDepends what you mean by safe: safe personally or safe for the US.
No president is “safe”.
Safe for the U.S.? That depends on your income level primarily.
I get tired of hearing people blame W for economic woes – yes the war is an expense we’d be better off without, and yes it contributes to higher oil, but so do lower rates, so really Greenspun and Berhanky are equally culpable.
The self-proclaimed intelligent anti-conservative “non-liberals” who think B.O. is the best thing for this country, despite his lack of experience and his own personal Religious dedication, don’t realize he still does nothing more than shovel empty promises he can’t deliver.
It’s one thing to want change, but another to want it so bad that the consequences of the alterative are ignored. And if he does win the liberals/lobbyists and Oprah will be running the country anyway, like the oil companies do now.
Obama may have a nice smile, but unless that’s worth paying higher taxes for, I suggest you reconsider.
February 12, 2008 at 10:29 AM #152387crParticipantDepends what you mean by safe: safe personally or safe for the US.
No president is “safe”.
Safe for the U.S.? That depends on your income level primarily.
I get tired of hearing people blame W for economic woes – yes the war is an expense we’d be better off without, and yes it contributes to higher oil, but so do lower rates, so really Greenspun and Berhanky are equally culpable.
The self-proclaimed intelligent anti-conservative “non-liberals” who think B.O. is the best thing for this country, despite his lack of experience and his own personal Religious dedication, don’t realize he still does nothing more than shovel empty promises he can’t deliver.
It’s one thing to want change, but another to want it so bad that the consequences of the alterative are ignored. And if he does win the liberals/lobbyists and Oprah will be running the country anyway, like the oil companies do now.
Obama may have a nice smile, but unless that’s worth paying higher taxes for, I suggest you reconsider.
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