OT: I hate public schools.

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=sdduuuude]I think you are all crazy assigning these adult-like personas and expectations of kindegarteners.

The kindegarteners aren’t racially profiling each other and kicking the boy in the crotch is not wise advice.

Just tell her to ignore the brats, go find the nice kids and play with them. It isn’t that difficult, really.

As for yourself, FLU – do the same with the parents. Don’t focus on all the Carmel Valley social posturing. Just find some nice people and conect with them. I guarantee you they are there.[/quote]

SD,

you are wrong on that one too. Plus I’ll go two years better than Kindergarden. The stories my sister tells me about the playground politics of her daughters and it is astounding. Boyfriend girlfriend politics (all very innocent at her age), profiling, social stimatizing… Its all very shocking. I told my sister to get the kids out of there and she said “Why? It’s that way everywhere now.”

I swear it made me want to have a vascetomy. Kids will be kids? Ha! Kids will be adults seemingly.

I don’t know why its different today. Maybe it wasn’t and we acted similiarly without knowing it.

Or maybe these things start earlier now becuase more kids go to day care and the learn bad behavior from one bad apple.

Or maybe I am just Mr. Negative since my schooling was a sham…

I know you have kids and your experience level is much higher than mine but I have worked on a school playground and I have plenty of friends and relatives that relate these stories…

And your no prize yourself my friend!

Ill be home soon and working from SD on a more regular basis. Get some Ba Ren?

CE

[Coronita]

[quote=CDMA ENG]
SD,

you are wrong on that one too. Plus I’ll go two years better than Kindergarden. The stories my sister tells me about the playground politics of her daughters and it is astounding. Boyfriend girlfriend politics (all very innocent at her age), profiling, social stimatizing… Its all very shocking. I told my sister to get the kids out of there and she said “Why? It’s that way everywhere now.”

I swear it made me want to have a vascetomy. Kids will be kids? Ha! Kids will be adults seemingly.

I don’t know why its different today. Maybe it wasn’t and we acted similiarly without knowing it.

Or maybe these things start earlier now becuase more kids go to day care and the learn bad behavior from one bad apple.

Or maybe I am just Mr. Negative since my schooling was a sham…

I know you have kids and your experience level is much higher than mine but I have worked on a school playground and I have plenty of friends and relatives that relate these stories…

And your no prize yourself my friend!

Ill be home soon and working from SD on a more regular basis. Get some Ba Ren?
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Oh god… I have such a Ba Ren craving. Haven’t been back there in awhile? I wish I could still eat there… I really wish… My digestive track just cant take it anymore…

The interesting thing that happened to me when I sent my kid in summer school, is she came back and asked

“Daddy, what is penis?” 🙁

I asked her where she got that word from….She said, one of her classmates (boy obviously) was saying “boys have penises”. I asked her if she whereher classmate got that from…”He said from his bigger brother in elementary”….

Yes, this was pre-k, and for the next two weeks or so, my kid thought it was the funniest thing….”I’m a girl… I don’t have a penis… I’m a girl, I don’t have a penis….”….I guess if it happened to other parent’s kid, I’d be ROTFLAO….So there was a nice two weeks I spent detoxicing her from repeatedly saying that word…
Which finally resulted in her joking around “girls don’t have p…..never mind daddy”

[zk]

[quote=CDMA ENG] The stories my sister tells me about the playground politics of her daughters and it is astounding. Boyfriend girlfriend politics (all very innocent at her age), profiling, social stimatizing… Its all very shocking. I told my sister to get the kids out of there and she said “Why? It’s that way everywhere now.”

[/quote]

Now? it’s always been that way, everywhere. You can get caught up in it and make it the center of your child’s life. Or she can hang with the nice kids. They’re there.

[NotCranky]

In the context of this discussion, I think it is kind of funny that I went to the 7th Through the 12th grade in city that has 15% non Hispanic white population.If your parents didn’t spend the government money on drugs and alcohol, you were rich. Furthermore, I lived on the wrong side of the tracks there! Well I did get out of the ghetto for that stint in the black head of household foster home.

It was very dangerous to stand up to the intimidation and overall shittiness of the cholos. People who did were frequently either killed or maimed.

I had one pushing me and the rest of our teamates around during a baseball game and I clocked him a couple of times. When the game ended there were no less than 250 Cholos in the alley nearby waiting for us to resume our fight. I got on my bike and fled for home. Good thing low rider bikes aren’t built for speed. I started passing out free joints to the cholos as fast as I could. It was fake stuff but most of them didn’t know. That’s a different story, the time I sold plaster of paris based “hashish” to the meanest, just out or prison cholo in town.

[sdduuuude]

[quote=CDMA ENG][quote=sdduuuude]I think you are all crazy assigning these adult-like personas and expectations of kindegarteners.

The kindegarteners aren’t racially profiling each other and kicking the boy in the crotch is not wise advice.

Just tell her to ignore the brats, go find the nice kids and play with them. It isn’t that difficult, really.

As for yourself, FLU – do the same with the parents. Don’t focus on all the Carmel Valley social posturing. Just find some nice people and conect with them. I guarantee you they are there.[/quote]

SD,

you are wrong on that one too. Plus I’ll go two years better than Kindergarden. The stories my sister tells me about the playground politics of her daughters and it is astounding. Boyfriend girlfriend politics (all very innocent at her age), profiling, social stimatizing… Its all very shocking. I told my sister to get the kids out of there and she said “Why? It’s that way everywhere now.”

I swear it made me want to have a vascetomy. Kids will be kids? Ha! Kids will be adults seemingly.

I don’t know why its different today. Maybe it wasn’t and we acted similiarly without knowing it.

Or maybe these things start earlier now becuase more kids go to day care and the learn bad behavior from one bad apple.

Or maybe I am just Mr. Negative since my schooling was a sham…

I know you have kids and your experience level is much higher than mine but I have worked on a school playground and I have plenty of friends and relatives that relate these stories…

And your no prize yourself my friend!

Ill be home soon and working from SD on a more regular basis. Get some Ba Ren?

CE[/quote]

Note – I didn’t say there weren’t any nasty kids in schoold. I said, be sure to teach your kids how to latch on to the nice ones.

It’s a matter of knowing what you can and cannot change, it’s a matter of seeing the good not the bad, it’s a matter of giving your kid an optimistic view of that is to come and a matter of putting your destiny in your own kids’ hands rather than complaining about everyone else and their kids or teaching your own kids to complain about everyone else and their kids.

What I see and hear is exactly that – people complaining about other people’s kids, which in itself isn’t a very pleasant trait. It’s aaaaaaalways someone else’s kid and never the kid of the guy complaining.

My advice holds true – Just find some nice people and connect with them and teach your kids to do the same.

[lookingagain]

I must apologize flu. I was not trying to call you out for thinking your child is exceptional, I was just amazed at how advanced so many of the children at my daughters kindergarten are.

I kept hearing from my daughters pre-k teachers how advanced she is, especially for her age (she just made the age cut-off for this year). Now that I am meeting all her new classmates and their parents I am seeing that most of the kids are all at the same level. Maybe in CV advanced is the “new average.” 😉

For my part I have always thought of my daughter as pretty normal with her own personal strengths and weaknesses.

Richard

[CDMA ENG]

Thread Jack…

Well FLU… SDDuuuude…

When are we going to Ba Ren? Also, FLU you get the props for turning us on to it!

I like to go there with someone who actually knows the food. We took a chinese friend there for lunch and let him order everything. It was so damn good.

I wouldn’t have had the guts to order it myself!

CE

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=zk][quote=CDMA ENG] The stories my sister tells me about the playground politics of her daughters and it is astounding. Boyfriend girlfriend politics (all very innocent at her age), profiling, social stimatizing… Its all very shocking. I told my sister to get the kids out of there and she said “Why? It’s that way everywhere now.”

[/quote]

Now? it’s always been that way, everywhere. You can get caught up in it and make it the center of your child’s life. Or she can hang with the nice kids. They’re there.[/quote]

Duuuuude mentions the same thing about finding the nice kids. I think that depends on the school though. The school I worked on just bordered the Pima indian reservation. Lot of poverty, lot of different races, and a lot of just angry kids. The nices one were few and far between. Sometimes it can be difficult to find the enviroment were your child can act civilly and not be acted against. That being said I don’t think the CV would be such a place and I know the both of you have made great strides to ensure just that.

Duuuude, you alone have me looking at what zips me and Ma’Lo should me looking into but it can be difficult for a child.

CE

[Coronita]

[quote=lookingagain]I must apologize flu. I was not trying to call you out for thinking your child is exceptional, I was just amazed at how advanced so many of the children at my daughters kindergarten are.

I kept hearing from my daughters pre-k teachers how advanced she is, especially for her age (she just made the age cut-off for this year). Now that I am meeting all her new classmates and their parents I am seeing that most of the kids are all at the same level. Maybe in CV advanced is the “new average.” 😉

For my part I have always thought of my daughter as pretty normal with her own personal strengths and weaknesses.

Richard[/quote]

No problem. I think a lot has to do with technology. Kids are getting smarter. Kids know how to use cell phones, computers, tablets, etc.. Unfortunately, I think these days they also grow up much quicker, in the sense that they get a much earlier taste of reality than before, so i guess it’s a double edge sword.

I think TG gets credit for suggesting introducing kids to computer math games and reading games. I’ve downloaded a bunch a math and reading games on my galaxy tablet and the ipad, and she spends a considerable time playing with them when we’re on the road, or waiting at a doctor’s appointment etc. In a lot of ways, it’s a lot more effective imho than her sitting in a class being drilled to death, if it weren’t’ for the factor that it probably isn’t good for her eyes to stare at a screen for a long time…

[GH]

I find it funny that most of you would be outraged if a coworker (perhaps well trained in martial arts) beat you and stole your lunch money, yet most believe this exact same behavior in a public school setting is “the norm” and quite acceptable.

Our son who is disabled was badly bullied in public school some years ago. When we complained the principal told us she was aware of the bullying and was not going to do anything about it. This decision cost tax payers in San Diego over a million dollars.

IMO public schools are a fraud and should be shut down.

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