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October 4, 2015 at 7:21 AM #789866October 4, 2015 at 7:30 AM #789867
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Participant[quote=flu]
Thanks for the info….
Yeah, my diet for the past few years has been pretty strict. So I guess I’m use to it I’ll just continue it.
1. No alcohol (throws off my liver panel, which was already high during chemo). (Ok, I might need a glass of wine occasionally moving forward, but I’m not a heavy drinker to begin with)
2. No soda (for the past few years), no juice, no milk, no soy milk. Sparingly on tea. Sparingly on coffee, typically black with no sugar or cream..maybe just almond milk.
3. No fried foods (charlie’s chicken was soooo tempting). No burgers, no hot dogs, and no red meat.
Pizza, cheese, or anything greasy is out. Chicken or fish.4. I avoid dairy products if I can.
5. No rice, whole wheat bread only with a sandwich. I switched to eating quinoa most of the time instead of rice, and I don’t eat either rice or quinoa regularly (asians eat a lot of rice, which I think is bad).
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/07/12/brown-rice-vs-quinoa_n_3587555.html6. Basically anything that has soy, soybean oil, or soy by product, I avoid…And this pretty much eliminates most processed foods, since most processed food uses soybean oil or some variation of it. (You know how hard it is to find food without soy and soybean oil in it)?
I’ve cut about 8 lbs so far just by starting to exercise regularly again over the past 2 months, now being active doesn’t feel such a drag. And I’m finding when I do exercise more, I tend to eat less, and feel less draggy during the day, which eliminates the need for coffee :),. I think if I can cut another 8 lbs, and tone up a bit, and maintain it, that would be ideal.
Elliptical glider seems kinda cool, maybe I’ll get one.[/quote]
slow and steady wins the race, 8 lbs in 2 months is actually a lot! have patience. my 40 lbs was over 4 years.
agree about the rice, we switched to the easy cook brown rice years ago, immediately saw a drop in consumption (more fiber = less craving). about a year ago we started adding quinoa to the rice.
you are absolutely right, that modest daily exercise really do bring down the appetite and cravings. I went through the same thing.
I did not lose my midsection around the waist until the last 10 lbs, AFTER I move below BMI of 22. we gain right down the center first, therefore that’ll be the last part to go away.
October 4, 2015 at 7:39 AM #789868scaredyclassic
Participantyou cannot outrun the fork.
count your macros, is what the kids are saying these days.
get the myftnesspal app, enter everything you eat. it takes care of the math and tells youwhether your maaxed on proteins carbs or fats. do this every day and you shall be lean, if you obey the app…
October 4, 2015 at 8:36 AM #789871
svelteParticipant[quote=scaredyclassic]you cannot outrun the fork.
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This is absolutely true. It takes both exercise and diet. We’ve been gym rats for years, but finally the eating started catching up with us.
For just over a month now, we’ve had the Weight Watchers app on our phone…it allots a certain number of points each day. We’ve each lost over 10 pounds in a month!
This app has made us much more aware of what each thing we eat is costing us, and our choices have become much, much healthier – and fewer – as a result. On top of that, no food is off limits…ya just have to pay for it with points. lol. What we’ve found is that we have started to eat way more fruits and veggies (0 points!) so we can stockpile points for a nice dinner out on weekends, of whatever calls out to us at the restaurant.
I know, weight watchers of yore does not sound appealing. Believe me we would not be doing this if we had to go to meetings or publicly weigh in. All that is no longer required. It’s all between me and my cell phone app now. And a buddy – I think this works best if you do it in pairs. My wife’s encouragement is key, as is my encouragement of her.
here is the article that got us started. It reads like an ad, but we’ve found it to be totally true.
http://www.techinsider.io/i-tried-the-weight-watchers-app-and-it-worked-2015-8
October 4, 2015 at 8:42 AM #789872FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=ocrenter]
true, we have created a bunch of these obesogenic cities in the last 50 years.Wow. I woke up to pleasant surprise this morning. That video is what I’ve been dreaming about housing wise.
I want to retire where there are condos stacked on top of stores, near mass transit and community parks.My BMI is 21 to 21.5 since college. I credit my grandmother for showing me how to eat decades before it became fashionable. it’s automatic once you learn. I eat out a lot but what to order has become intuitive. No salt or low salt because salt is in everything.
October 4, 2015 at 8:43 AM #789873The-Shoveler
ParticipantWell not that I have a hard body now so maybe I should not give advice.
I agree it’s more about intake than exercise but working out every day is really a good Idea as well (nothing better than a long walk IMO).
At one time I got on this calorie restriction craze, it really worked I felt really really great (I was taking the stairs three four rungs at a time and I was in my late 40’s at that time).
Anyway it worked for me at that time I need to do it again.
October 4, 2015 at 8:52 AM #789874
CoronitaParticipantFortunately for me, I don’t really enjoy eating. I think this is where the anti-social part of me kicks in…I rarely eat out, unless it’s to catch up with some friends. So I really can’t tell what is good food over so-so food. So I don’t have a craving for some particular food at some particular place that I have to try out. I use to be a heavy soda drinker back in my college days. But I have long gave that up.
So from a diet perspective, I don’t think my diet is bad. I think my problem is that I’ve just been lethargic and haven’t felt like exercising as much.
What I do notice is that at my new company, there’s a bunch for free food (that surprisingly is reasonably healthy). That’s just bad. I avoid it like the plague. Because, I see what happens a lot, is people take a break, walk to the kitchen, and start eating crap (I guess out of anxiety, stress, or whatever)….
October 4, 2015 at 8:55 AM #789875CoronitaParticipantOk… And one other thing I was thinking… It’s getting harder to find another way to drop 20 lbs off my miata, without spending more serious money (taking out the A/C will drop about 20 lbs).
But I think I could easily drop 20 lbs off of me, so the entire package of me + car would be much lighter as a result if I simply lose more weight…Ha!
October 4, 2015 at 9:01 AM #789876GuestYou have to eat that you enjoy. Fortunately I enjoy many things that would make people go eewwww such as liver.
If you think that you’re sacrificing enjoyment for your weight diet, you will regress back.
October 4, 2015 at 9:34 AM #789879exsdgal
Participantflu, congratulations on your milestone this is awesome.
green tea + 4 to 6 balanced nutritional meals per day + at least 10K walking steps per day + plenty of water in between + good night sleep.
This combination seems to work for me. Being a vegetarian feel there are lot less tempting treats. Over the years my food habits have changed and have settled on a few concepts – low glycemic foods, avoid night shade vegetables (with some exceptions – sweet potato, japanese eggplant and poblano pepper), no soda/processed food, no salt, minimal bread/pasta/grains, no health/meal replacement bars 🙂
One of the changes that has made the most impact is adapting to multiple smaller meals every 2-3 hours. The first meal within 20 minutes of waking up; and the last meal 2-3 hours before bedtime. This required some getting used to, and over time found I had less cravings to grab the 100 calorie snacks. Something I read a while back that has stuck in my mind is often times we mistake cravings for hunger, when in fact our body is just thirsty for water.
Few years ago I stumbled across Zion market at Mercury, and this changed my world. The variety of produce is exceptional and now I regularly seek out ethnic markets. Often times I barely know what the produce is, and usually a fellow shopper is helpful with a recipe. One recent find was tofu + okra leaves + coriander + garlic = an absolute surprise.
As for exercise brisk paced 60-90 minute walks a day on varying terrain works best for me. Have tried running, and gym but always come back to my walks. Have a few different routes to switch scenery/difficulty and anything that requires less tracking/logging suits my personality.
All this said I have some guilty pleasure food, and luckily Costco does not carry a lot of appealing vegetarian food on their shelves!
Best wishes for finding the right routine that works, and one you enjoy.
October 4, 2015 at 10:34 AM #789880GuestPride of ownership. Like a house, a body that has curb appeal and shows pride of ownership is more valuable
on the other hand, my car is looking dusty and neglected. But because of the drought, that’s a status symbol.
October 4, 2015 at 12:29 PM #789881CoronitaParticipant[quote=FlyerInHi]Pride of ownership. Like a house, a body that has curb appeal and shows pride of ownership is more valuable
on the other hand, my car is looking dusty and neglected. But because of the drought, that’s a status symbol.[/quote]
I just washed two of my cars in the rain… I’m finishing the third one after lunch.
October 4, 2015 at 4:00 PM #789882flyer
ParticipantGreat thread.
Also meant to mention–whatever you decide to do about diet and
exercise–enjoy it–and try to avoid (as much as possible–realizing health issues may not be optional) negative stressors.We have friends and family who are in moderately “good shape,” with few negative stressors, who have lived extremely long and great lives. We also have friends and family who have been in perfect shape in every way , but had major stress from financial or other issues, who didn’t, so it’s definitely more than just diet and exercise.
October 4, 2015 at 4:11 PM #789883bearishgurl
Participant[quote=ocrenter][quote=no_such_reality]Relocate to a walkable neighborhood . Walk to the grocery store. Walk to the pharmacy. Walk to the gym for lifts or the pool. Walk to work if you can..
10000-15000 steps a day.
The elliptical is nice for catching up on Netflix while you think you’re working out.[/quote]
true, we have created a bunch of these obesogenic cities in the last 50 years.
Wow, great videos and with great ideas from Medellin, Colombia, ocrenter! Escalators and ski gondolas would be a GREAT idea for a city such as SF! They could get rid of their aging and VERY unsightly overhead line system for cable cars and streetcars. Even SF’s “crookedest street” on Russian Hill and dozens of other back steps in SF District residential parks could be replaced with escalators with community squares built below with recycle and trash bins and doggie bag stands … even lease space to coffee stands, etc. This would increase neighborhood camaraderie as well.
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Some of the existing cable car routes could be replaced with ski gondolas. The only problem with this idea is that they would have to be closed periodically when high winds kicked up.
Downtown Chula Vista and surrounds are mostly flat as a pool table and very walkable. The vast majority of seniors around here over the age of 80 are still living in their homes because they can walk to all … and do … and public transportation is abundant. The generation I’m noticing who has the most problem with obesity are the K-12 students (age 6-18). Many of them are addicted to sweets and salty snacks and carry a regular size back of chips with them to school (not “snack size”). In addition, PE is now offered in elementary schools only 1-3 times per week, due to lack of public school staff and some PE staff having to be deployed to teach common core subjects. It doesn’t help that these kids’ parents get them iphones at the age of 8-10 and so they fool around with it after school instead of playing outside.
I swear by going to the gym but I’ve been a “gym rat” most of my life (and I would dislike purchasing, storing, dusting and maintaining gym equipment at home). The classes are great, especially “Body Pump” which I started attending just under two years ago. It really does increase your muscle mass in just a few months which helps your body burn more calories. Throw in 30-40 mins circuit training before or after class and it’s a great workout!
Since 2009, one gym round-trip for me takes 2.75 hrs (incl travel time) but I realize that FT workers raising families don’t have this kind of time 2 – 4x per week. I certainly didn’t when I was in that situation. Even if you just go there to attend class and leave, that’s probably under 1.5 hrs (or <1.75 hrs for pilates and <2 hrs for yoga). Even if you can only go 2x week, you will see the difference. Weight training included your regimen is key (Body Pump qualifies) ... start light with more reps.
October 4, 2015 at 8:33 PM #789884GuestBG, maybe Bosa Development or other Canadians will build condos on top of stores in San Diego like in the video. More than the lousy Albertsons that was built in Downtown SD.
Did you notice that there are always people walking around in development brochures, even for the suburban ones. But in real life, it’s dead.
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