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July 20, 2010 at 2:31 AM #580957July 20, 2010 at 8:16 PM #580565Jim JonesParticipant
[quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.
July 20, 2010 at 8:16 PM #580659Jim JonesParticipant[quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.
July 20, 2010 at 8:16 PM #581596Jim JonesParticipant[quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.
July 20, 2010 at 8:16 PM #581188Jim JonesParticipant[quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.
July 20, 2010 at 8:16 PM #581294Jim JonesParticipant[quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.
July 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM #580950CA renterParticipant[quote=Jim Jones][quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.[/quote]
Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.
I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.
A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.
July 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM #581042CA renterParticipant[quote=Jim Jones][quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.[/quote]
Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.
I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.
A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.
July 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM #581679CA renterParticipant[quote=Jim Jones][quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.[/quote]
Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.
I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.
A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.
July 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM #581573CA renterParticipant[quote=Jim Jones][quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.[/quote]
Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.
I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.
A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.
July 21, 2010 at 5:23 PM #581982CA renterParticipant[quote=Jim Jones][quote=CA renter]
Same here. We’re home most of the day, and we never open or answer the door if we’re not expecting someone. It’s frightening to hear about these crimes. Wish there was a way to stop this sort of thing.
[/quote]There is a way to change it. Stop supporting the criminalization of “self defense” when a crime is committed on a private individuals property. Secondly stop criminalizing “self defense” in public. If you are on a jury refuse to convict someone who engages in lawful self defense. Criminals will think twice when citizens are prepared to defend themselves and their property.
A bigger issue is the cultural one which starts a young age when we suspend children who fight in school. Often the bullied individual is treated as a “rule breaker” for defending themselves. This behavior is carried to adulthood, hence our current dilemma, and our current situation where citizens have developed a detrimental reliance on the Police for their security, which have no legal precedent to protect “individual” members of society as affirmed by the Supreme Court. That convenient fact is never discussed.[/quote]
Believe it or not, I agree with you 100%.
I’m a staunch supporter of gun rights and the right to self defense. Also, I support vigilantism for the reasons you’ve mentioned above. IMHO, it’s a sick society that supports a criminal’s rights over a victim’s rights.
A good example of this “sickness” in our society: one of the links above regarding the Chula Vista crimes has the police spokesperson mention that it’s the victim’s fault for the car thefts and break-ins! He said that if we want to prevent these crimes, people have to start “being smart” and keeping things (and themselves) locked up so there wouldn’t be any incentive for the criminals to act. Sounds an awful lot like “blaming the victim” in rape cases. It’s disgusting. How about we lock up the criminals instead of “locking up” innocent people who have to live behind bars and locks on their houses? It sounds like they are encouraging letting the criminals, rather than law-abiding citizens, run the streets.
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