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August 28, 2011 at 9:16 AM #726666August 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM #725474scaredyclassicParticipant
Watch the show pretty intense. The addiction thing is portrayed real intensely; heavy is like the show hoarders but w food. My kids love it. The 600 pound dude eating 6 bacon cheeseburgers on his bed unable to barely move was terrifying. The humanity of it all is overwhelming. After they get out of rehab they go to the market with a nutritionist who teaches about labels and portion size. When shown a good portion of potato this woman looks at it and says something like, I don’t think anyone would eat a potato that small. It’s really interesting
August 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM #725562scaredyclassicParticipantWatch the show pretty intense. The addiction thing is portrayed real intensely; heavy is like the show hoarders but w food. My kids love it. The 600 pound dude eating 6 bacon cheeseburgers on his bed unable to barely move was terrifying. The humanity of it all is overwhelming. After they get out of rehab they go to the market with a nutritionist who teaches about labels and portion size. When shown a good portion of potato this woman looks at it and says something like, I don’t think anyone would eat a potato that small. It’s really interesting
August 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM #726160scaredyclassicParticipantWatch the show pretty intense. The addiction thing is portrayed real intensely; heavy is like the show hoarders but w food. My kids love it. The 600 pound dude eating 6 bacon cheeseburgers on his bed unable to barely move was terrifying. The humanity of it all is overwhelming. After they get out of rehab they go to the market with a nutritionist who teaches about labels and portion size. When shown a good portion of potato this woman looks at it and says something like, I don’t think anyone would eat a potato that small. It’s really interesting
August 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM #726316scaredyclassicParticipantWatch the show pretty intense. The addiction thing is portrayed real intensely; heavy is like the show hoarders but w food. My kids love it. The 600 pound dude eating 6 bacon cheeseburgers on his bed unable to barely move was terrifying. The humanity of it all is overwhelming. After they get out of rehab they go to the market with a nutritionist who teaches about labels and portion size. When shown a good portion of potato this woman looks at it and says something like, I don’t think anyone would eat a potato that small. It’s really interesting
August 28, 2011 at 9:50 AM #726681scaredyclassicParticipantWatch the show pretty intense. The addiction thing is portrayed real intensely; heavy is like the show hoarders but w food. My kids love it. The 600 pound dude eating 6 bacon cheeseburgers on his bed unable to barely move was terrifying. The humanity of it all is overwhelming. After they get out of rehab they go to the market with a nutritionist who teaches about labels and portion size. When shown a good portion of potato this woman looks at it and says something like, I don’t think anyone would eat a potato that small. It’s really interesting
August 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM #725549njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
The inflammation of chronic gingivitis is suspected to contribute to cardiac issues and may also play a part in premature birth. Should we hold people accountable for not brushing their teeth enough? What if some people are more naturally resistant to gingivitis? How should we show our “intolerance” of people who overeat or fail to brush on the schedule that others might recommend? Or those people who have children with others who have genetic diseases and bring more people into the world with genetic diseases?
I also think we should tax people for being a bit too self-satisfied.
August 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM #725637njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
The inflammation of chronic gingivitis is suspected to contribute to cardiac issues and may also play a part in premature birth. Should we hold people accountable for not brushing their teeth enough? What if some people are more naturally resistant to gingivitis? How should we show our “intolerance” of people who overeat or fail to brush on the schedule that others might recommend? Or those people who have children with others who have genetic diseases and bring more people into the world with genetic diseases?
I also think we should tax people for being a bit too self-satisfied.
August 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM #726234njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
The inflammation of chronic gingivitis is suspected to contribute to cardiac issues and may also play a part in premature birth. Should we hold people accountable for not brushing their teeth enough? What if some people are more naturally resistant to gingivitis? How should we show our “intolerance” of people who overeat or fail to brush on the schedule that others might recommend? Or those people who have children with others who have genetic diseases and bring more people into the world with genetic diseases?
I also think we should tax people for being a bit too self-satisfied.
August 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM #726389njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
The inflammation of chronic gingivitis is suspected to contribute to cardiac issues and may also play a part in premature birth. Should we hold people accountable for not brushing their teeth enough? What if some people are more naturally resistant to gingivitis? How should we show our “intolerance” of people who overeat or fail to brush on the schedule that others might recommend? Or those people who have children with others who have genetic diseases and bring more people into the world with genetic diseases?
I also think we should tax people for being a bit too self-satisfied.
August 28, 2011 at 7:49 PM #726757njtosdParticipant[quote=briansd1]
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
The inflammation of chronic gingivitis is suspected to contribute to cardiac issues and may also play a part in premature birth. Should we hold people accountable for not brushing their teeth enough? What if some people are more naturally resistant to gingivitis? How should we show our “intolerance” of people who overeat or fail to brush on the schedule that others might recommend? Or those people who have children with others who have genetic diseases and bring more people into the world with genetic diseases?
I also think we should tax people for being a bit too self-satisfied.
August 29, 2011 at 3:09 AM #725580CA renterParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=CA renter]We have a kid from each type, which is why I feel so strongly about it not simply being “diet and exercise.” I think that’s too simplistic.[/quote]
Too simplistic yes. There is an addiction element. As humans, we have weaknesses and we are all addicted to some things.
Like everything in life, it takes discipline from a young age. Adults won’t crave food if they are well-educated about food and have sampled it all as children.
The key is also to instill good manners in kids. Give them their portions and that’s it. No seconds, no picking and choosing, no I-don-t-like-this-or-that. No eating out of the box, or drinking out of the can. Sit down and eat properly at the dining table every time.
That will help them later as adults not to gorge themselves outside of mealtime.
We talk about personal responsibility a lot here. Those who remain at college age weight throughout their lives achieve great personal responsibility, IMHO.
If you do that, you’ll likely live a healthy life into your 90s or pass 100.
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.
If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
You’re not getting it, brian.
We have three kids, one of whom eats X calories and gains weight; the other one eats the same X calories and loses weight. Both “exercise” the same amount, but one is “hyper” and the other is very sedate.
It is NOT always as simple as saying, “that fat person must eat too much or exercise too little.” Oftentimes, “fat” people eat LESS than “skinny” people. That’s my point. I think that a lot of people whose bodies choose to store fat have a lack of energy (because the body does not easily convert calories into kinetic energy) it’s like their bodies are in constant starvation mode, so their bodies store calories and send unusually strong hunger signals. Other people have bodies that naturally burn all the calories that are eaten — they don’t store the calories, and their bodies don’t send unusual hunger signals.
Our family is a perfect case study because we eat all of our meals together and all of our kids eat the same amounts of the same food (you’ll be happy to know that everyone sits at the table and eats properly, brian). I see everything they eat, and I see what they do physically.
This is exactly my point — they take in the same calories, but their bodies use them differently. One can eat and is still fairly low-energy, while another one eats and immediately starts acting “hyper.” These are not conscious decisions on their parts; their bodies are reacting differently to food.
All this is not to say that food consumption and exercise levels don’t affect weight, but we need to look at OTHER influences which might prove to be even more important. We need to get a better understanding of how each person’s body uses calories (do they store them or immediately burn them?), and how this affects hunger signals, and unconscious body movements.
August 29, 2011 at 3:09 AM #725668CA renterParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=CA renter]We have a kid from each type, which is why I feel so strongly about it not simply being “diet and exercise.” I think that’s too simplistic.[/quote]
Too simplistic yes. There is an addiction element. As humans, we have weaknesses and we are all addicted to some things.
Like everything in life, it takes discipline from a young age. Adults won’t crave food if they are well-educated about food and have sampled it all as children.
The key is also to instill good manners in kids. Give them their portions and that’s it. No seconds, no picking and choosing, no I-don-t-like-this-or-that. No eating out of the box, or drinking out of the can. Sit down and eat properly at the dining table every time.
That will help them later as adults not to gorge themselves outside of mealtime.
We talk about personal responsibility a lot here. Those who remain at college age weight throughout their lives achieve great personal responsibility, IMHO.
If you do that, you’ll likely live a healthy life into your 90s or pass 100.
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.
If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
You’re not getting it, brian.
We have three kids, one of whom eats X calories and gains weight; the other one eats the same X calories and loses weight. Both “exercise” the same amount, but one is “hyper” and the other is very sedate.
It is NOT always as simple as saying, “that fat person must eat too much or exercise too little.” Oftentimes, “fat” people eat LESS than “skinny” people. That’s my point. I think that a lot of people whose bodies choose to store fat have a lack of energy (because the body does not easily convert calories into kinetic energy) it’s like their bodies are in constant starvation mode, so their bodies store calories and send unusually strong hunger signals. Other people have bodies that naturally burn all the calories that are eaten — they don’t store the calories, and their bodies don’t send unusual hunger signals.
Our family is a perfect case study because we eat all of our meals together and all of our kids eat the same amounts of the same food (you’ll be happy to know that everyone sits at the table and eats properly, brian). I see everything they eat, and I see what they do physically.
This is exactly my point — they take in the same calories, but their bodies use them differently. One can eat and is still fairly low-energy, while another one eats and immediately starts acting “hyper.” These are not conscious decisions on their parts; their bodies are reacting differently to food.
All this is not to say that food consumption and exercise levels don’t affect weight, but we need to look at OTHER influences which might prove to be even more important. We need to get a better understanding of how each person’s body uses calories (do they store them or immediately burn them?), and how this affects hunger signals, and unconscious body movements.
August 29, 2011 at 3:09 AM #726267CA renterParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=CA renter]We have a kid from each type, which is why I feel so strongly about it not simply being “diet and exercise.” I think that’s too simplistic.[/quote]
Too simplistic yes. There is an addiction element. As humans, we have weaknesses and we are all addicted to some things.
Like everything in life, it takes discipline from a young age. Adults won’t crave food if they are well-educated about food and have sampled it all as children.
The key is also to instill good manners in kids. Give them their portions and that’s it. No seconds, no picking and choosing, no I-don-t-like-this-or-that. No eating out of the box, or drinking out of the can. Sit down and eat properly at the dining table every time.
That will help them later as adults not to gorge themselves outside of mealtime.
We talk about personal responsibility a lot here. Those who remain at college age weight throughout their lives achieve great personal responsibility, IMHO.
If you do that, you’ll likely live a healthy life into your 90s or pass 100.
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.
If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
You’re not getting it, brian.
We have three kids, one of whom eats X calories and gains weight; the other one eats the same X calories and loses weight. Both “exercise” the same amount, but one is “hyper” and the other is very sedate.
It is NOT always as simple as saying, “that fat person must eat too much or exercise too little.” Oftentimes, “fat” people eat LESS than “skinny” people. That’s my point. I think that a lot of people whose bodies choose to store fat have a lack of energy (because the body does not easily convert calories into kinetic energy) it’s like their bodies are in constant starvation mode, so their bodies store calories and send unusually strong hunger signals. Other people have bodies that naturally burn all the calories that are eaten — they don’t store the calories, and their bodies don’t send unusual hunger signals.
Our family is a perfect case study because we eat all of our meals together and all of our kids eat the same amounts of the same food (you’ll be happy to know that everyone sits at the table and eats properly, brian). I see everything they eat, and I see what they do physically.
This is exactly my point — they take in the same calories, but their bodies use them differently. One can eat and is still fairly low-energy, while another one eats and immediately starts acting “hyper.” These are not conscious decisions on their parts; their bodies are reacting differently to food.
All this is not to say that food consumption and exercise levels don’t affect weight, but we need to look at OTHER influences which might prove to be even more important. We need to get a better understanding of how each person’s body uses calories (do they store them or immediately burn them?), and how this affects hunger signals, and unconscious body movements.
August 29, 2011 at 3:09 AM #726422CA renterParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=CA renter]We have a kid from each type, which is why I feel so strongly about it not simply being “diet and exercise.” I think that’s too simplistic.[/quote]
Too simplistic yes. There is an addiction element. As humans, we have weaknesses and we are all addicted to some things.
Like everything in life, it takes discipline from a young age. Adults won’t crave food if they are well-educated about food and have sampled it all as children.
The key is also to instill good manners in kids. Give them their portions and that’s it. No seconds, no picking and choosing, no I-don-t-like-this-or-that. No eating out of the box, or drinking out of the can. Sit down and eat properly at the dining table every time.
That will help them later as adults not to gorge themselves outside of mealtime.
We talk about personal responsibility a lot here. Those who remain at college age weight throughout their lives achieve great personal responsibility, IMHO.
If you do that, you’ll likely live a healthy life into your 90s or pass 100.
Weight gains and losses, up and down, cause imflamations and great stress to the body. As Arraya would say, chronic inflamation is a systemic problem induced upon the body that causes diseases and death.
If we cannot tolerate people who don’t pay their mortgages or can’t manage their money, then why should be tolerate people who over-eat and create their own health problems?[/quote]
You’re not getting it, brian.
We have three kids, one of whom eats X calories and gains weight; the other one eats the same X calories and loses weight. Both “exercise” the same amount, but one is “hyper” and the other is very sedate.
It is NOT always as simple as saying, “that fat person must eat too much or exercise too little.” Oftentimes, “fat” people eat LESS than “skinny” people. That’s my point. I think that a lot of people whose bodies choose to store fat have a lack of energy (because the body does not easily convert calories into kinetic energy) it’s like their bodies are in constant starvation mode, so their bodies store calories and send unusually strong hunger signals. Other people have bodies that naturally burn all the calories that are eaten — they don’t store the calories, and their bodies don’t send unusual hunger signals.
Our family is a perfect case study because we eat all of our meals together and all of our kids eat the same amounts of the same food (you’ll be happy to know that everyone sits at the table and eats properly, brian). I see everything they eat, and I see what they do physically.
This is exactly my point — they take in the same calories, but their bodies use them differently. One can eat and is still fairly low-energy, while another one eats and immediately starts acting “hyper.” These are not conscious decisions on their parts; their bodies are reacting differently to food.
All this is not to say that food consumption and exercise levels don’t affect weight, but we need to look at OTHER influences which might prove to be even more important. We need to get a better understanding of how each person’s body uses calories (do they store them or immediately burn them?), and how this affects hunger signals, and unconscious body movements.
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