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September 16, 2009 at 8:45 PM #458504September 17, 2009 at 3:58 AM #457774sdgrrlParticipant
Aec, I wasn’t attacking zeits post, we pretty much disagree on everything. He felt things were less civil today and I feel things are more civil today. Maybe you don’t like my observations, but I really don’t care.
He made the point and opinion that things are less civil today and that it is by societal changes.
I simply made the case how I appreciate how society has changed.
Take it or leave it those are my opinions. Nothing more and nothing less.
September 17, 2009 at 3:58 AM #457968sdgrrlParticipantAec, I wasn’t attacking zeits post, we pretty much disagree on everything. He felt things were less civil today and I feel things are more civil today. Maybe you don’t like my observations, but I really don’t care.
He made the point and opinion that things are less civil today and that it is by societal changes.
I simply made the case how I appreciate how society has changed.
Take it or leave it those are my opinions. Nothing more and nothing less.
September 17, 2009 at 3:58 AM #458301sdgrrlParticipantAec, I wasn’t attacking zeits post, we pretty much disagree on everything. He felt things were less civil today and I feel things are more civil today. Maybe you don’t like my observations, but I really don’t care.
He made the point and opinion that things are less civil today and that it is by societal changes.
I simply made the case how I appreciate how society has changed.
Take it or leave it those are my opinions. Nothing more and nothing less.
September 17, 2009 at 3:58 AM #458371sdgrrlParticipantAec, I wasn’t attacking zeits post, we pretty much disagree on everything. He felt things were less civil today and I feel things are more civil today. Maybe you don’t like my observations, but I really don’t care.
He made the point and opinion that things are less civil today and that it is by societal changes.
I simply made the case how I appreciate how society has changed.
Take it or leave it those are my opinions. Nothing more and nothing less.
September 17, 2009 at 3:58 AM #458562sdgrrlParticipantAec, I wasn’t attacking zeits post, we pretty much disagree on everything. He felt things were less civil today and I feel things are more civil today. Maybe you don’t like my observations, but I really don’t care.
He made the point and opinion that things are less civil today and that it is by societal changes.
I simply made the case how I appreciate how society has changed.
Take it or leave it those are my opinions. Nothing more and nothing less.
September 17, 2009 at 6:44 AM #457789felixParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
By and large, nearly every one of the folks that I saw interviewed were average, middle class Americans. They were justifiably concerned about the direction of this country, the policies of this Administration (and the Bush Administration, as well) and the general sense of things going into the ditch.While I’m certain that there were elements of the lunatic fringe in attendance (with gatherings this large, its going to happen), these protests were civil, and behaved. It seems like either elitist arrogance or desperation to somehow accuse these average citizens, who are exercising their First Amendment rights, of racism and extremism (“Nazism” has been thrown out more than once).[/quote]
I would love to see polling organizations do “exit interviews” at those events to see the percentage of protesters that have health insurance.
Based on the number of missing teeth, I’m sure quite a few don’t have dental coverage. Of course, medical coverage is not the same as dental coverage. That’s why I’m curious.[/quote]
You obviously have not ever really seen any of these events, except for what may have been being misportrayed in the various parts of the media, if you are making a comments like, “Based on the number of missing teeth…”
September 17, 2009 at 6:44 AM #457981felixParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
By and large, nearly every one of the folks that I saw interviewed were average, middle class Americans. They were justifiably concerned about the direction of this country, the policies of this Administration (and the Bush Administration, as well) and the general sense of things going into the ditch.While I’m certain that there were elements of the lunatic fringe in attendance (with gatherings this large, its going to happen), these protests were civil, and behaved. It seems like either elitist arrogance or desperation to somehow accuse these average citizens, who are exercising their First Amendment rights, of racism and extremism (“Nazism” has been thrown out more than once).[/quote]
I would love to see polling organizations do “exit interviews” at those events to see the percentage of protesters that have health insurance.
Based on the number of missing teeth, I’m sure quite a few don’t have dental coverage. Of course, medical coverage is not the same as dental coverage. That’s why I’m curious.[/quote]
You obviously have not ever really seen any of these events, except for what may have been being misportrayed in the various parts of the media, if you are making a comments like, “Based on the number of missing teeth…”
September 17, 2009 at 6:44 AM #458316felixParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
By and large, nearly every one of the folks that I saw interviewed were average, middle class Americans. They were justifiably concerned about the direction of this country, the policies of this Administration (and the Bush Administration, as well) and the general sense of things going into the ditch.While I’m certain that there were elements of the lunatic fringe in attendance (with gatherings this large, its going to happen), these protests were civil, and behaved. It seems like either elitist arrogance or desperation to somehow accuse these average citizens, who are exercising their First Amendment rights, of racism and extremism (“Nazism” has been thrown out more than once).[/quote]
I would love to see polling organizations do “exit interviews” at those events to see the percentage of protesters that have health insurance.
Based on the number of missing teeth, I’m sure quite a few don’t have dental coverage. Of course, medical coverage is not the same as dental coverage. That’s why I’m curious.[/quote]
You obviously have not ever really seen any of these events, except for what may have been being misportrayed in the various parts of the media, if you are making a comments like, “Based on the number of missing teeth…”
September 17, 2009 at 6:44 AM #458386felixParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
By and large, nearly every one of the folks that I saw interviewed were average, middle class Americans. They were justifiably concerned about the direction of this country, the policies of this Administration (and the Bush Administration, as well) and the general sense of things going into the ditch.While I’m certain that there were elements of the lunatic fringe in attendance (with gatherings this large, its going to happen), these protests were civil, and behaved. It seems like either elitist arrogance or desperation to somehow accuse these average citizens, who are exercising their First Amendment rights, of racism and extremism (“Nazism” has been thrown out more than once).[/quote]
I would love to see polling organizations do “exit interviews” at those events to see the percentage of protesters that have health insurance.
Based on the number of missing teeth, I’m sure quite a few don’t have dental coverage. Of course, medical coverage is not the same as dental coverage. That’s why I’m curious.[/quote]
You obviously have not ever really seen any of these events, except for what may have been being misportrayed in the various parts of the media, if you are making a comments like, “Based on the number of missing teeth…”
September 17, 2009 at 6:44 AM #458576felixParticipant[quote=briansd1][quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
By and large, nearly every one of the folks that I saw interviewed were average, middle class Americans. They were justifiably concerned about the direction of this country, the policies of this Administration (and the Bush Administration, as well) and the general sense of things going into the ditch.While I’m certain that there were elements of the lunatic fringe in attendance (with gatherings this large, its going to happen), these protests were civil, and behaved. It seems like either elitist arrogance or desperation to somehow accuse these average citizens, who are exercising their First Amendment rights, of racism and extremism (“Nazism” has been thrown out more than once).[/quote]
I would love to see polling organizations do “exit interviews” at those events to see the percentage of protesters that have health insurance.
Based on the number of missing teeth, I’m sure quite a few don’t have dental coverage. Of course, medical coverage is not the same as dental coverage. That’s why I’m curious.[/quote]
You obviously have not ever really seen any of these events, except for what may have been being misportrayed in the various parts of the media, if you are making a comments like, “Based on the number of missing teeth…”
September 17, 2009 at 7:22 AM #457804felixParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]Both parties have radical elements. Both parties have those who have those who buy into extreme ideas and conspiratorial theories.
However, there is a difference between the parties with regard to extremism. The Republicans don’t put those types in positions of power. [/quote]
Who were Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove?
Ever heard of Rumsfeld and ASPARTAME? Google those 2 terms together.[/quote]
You may not be happy with the previous administration. I understand that. I wasn’t happy with much that occurred also. Still, very few folks would consider any of the above radicals, in the same way those close to and even working in the Obama administration are considered radical. And this isn’t just a left/right judgment. It is a judgment based upon the traditional values of this country.
If you consider those you named above as radicals then you also must consider most of founding fathers radicals as well as many of those who have lead and built this country radicals. Clearly, the views of those who founded this country and of those who wrote our constitution are more in line with the Bushies than the changes being done by administrative or judicial fiat of the current left.
In fact, imo, JFK views were more in line with the Bushies and today’s Republications than today’s current Dems.
September 17, 2009 at 7:22 AM #457995felixParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]Both parties have radical elements. Both parties have those who have those who buy into extreme ideas and conspiratorial theories.
However, there is a difference between the parties with regard to extremism. The Republicans don’t put those types in positions of power. [/quote]
Who were Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove?
Ever heard of Rumsfeld and ASPARTAME? Google those 2 terms together.[/quote]
You may not be happy with the previous administration. I understand that. I wasn’t happy with much that occurred also. Still, very few folks would consider any of the above radicals, in the same way those close to and even working in the Obama administration are considered radical. And this isn’t just a left/right judgment. It is a judgment based upon the traditional values of this country.
If you consider those you named above as radicals then you also must consider most of founding fathers radicals as well as many of those who have lead and built this country radicals. Clearly, the views of those who founded this country and of those who wrote our constitution are more in line with the Bushies than the changes being done by administrative or judicial fiat of the current left.
In fact, imo, JFK views were more in line with the Bushies and today’s Republications than today’s current Dems.
September 17, 2009 at 7:22 AM #458331felixParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]Both parties have radical elements. Both parties have those who have those who buy into extreme ideas and conspiratorial theories.
However, there is a difference between the parties with regard to extremism. The Republicans don’t put those types in positions of power. [/quote]
Who were Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove?
Ever heard of Rumsfeld and ASPARTAME? Google those 2 terms together.[/quote]
You may not be happy with the previous administration. I understand that. I wasn’t happy with much that occurred also. Still, very few folks would consider any of the above radicals, in the same way those close to and even working in the Obama administration are considered radical. And this isn’t just a left/right judgment. It is a judgment based upon the traditional values of this country.
If you consider those you named above as radicals then you also must consider most of founding fathers radicals as well as many of those who have lead and built this country radicals. Clearly, the views of those who founded this country and of those who wrote our constitution are more in line with the Bushies than the changes being done by administrative or judicial fiat of the current left.
In fact, imo, JFK views were more in line with the Bushies and today’s Republications than today’s current Dems.
September 17, 2009 at 7:22 AM #458401felixParticipant[quote=dbapig][quote=felix]Both parties have radical elements. Both parties have those who have those who buy into extreme ideas and conspiratorial theories.
However, there is a difference between the parties with regard to extremism. The Republicans don’t put those types in positions of power. [/quote]
Who were Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove?
Ever heard of Rumsfeld and ASPARTAME? Google those 2 terms together.[/quote]
You may not be happy with the previous administration. I understand that. I wasn’t happy with much that occurred also. Still, very few folks would consider any of the above radicals, in the same way those close to and even working in the Obama administration are considered radical. And this isn’t just a left/right judgment. It is a judgment based upon the traditional values of this country.
If you consider those you named above as radicals then you also must consider most of founding fathers radicals as well as many of those who have lead and built this country radicals. Clearly, the views of those who founded this country and of those who wrote our constitution are more in line with the Bushies than the changes being done by administrative or judicial fiat of the current left.
In fact, imo, JFK views were more in line with the Bushies and today’s Republications than today’s current Dems.
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