OT: Ford Dealer Recommendation

[Rt.66]

This is the dependability ranking:
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009043

I prefer this to the “initial quality” ranking because this one is based on quality after the initial purchase excitement has worn off.

Buick is Number 1
Ford is number 13
Mazda is number……….wait for it…….34

Problems per 100 vehicles is relativiely close among the top performers with 37 seperating Buick and Ford but it then makes a big jump down around the bottom where Mazda resides with a whopping 68 seperating Ford and Mazda’s ranking.

[CA renter]

[quote=Raybyrnes]I think the whole dealership system needs to change. We should be able to buy factory direct. Dealers should register customers who come in for a test drive and should be paid a fee by the manufacturer for acting as an agent.

In return dealers should compensate manufactures for providing marketing of the dealers service departments.

Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

Good concept, Raybyrnes.

[CA renter]

[quote=Raybyrnes]I think the whole dealership system needs to change. We should be able to buy factory direct. Dealers should register customers who come in for a test drive and should be paid a fee by the manufacturer for acting as an agent.

In return dealers should compensate manufactures for providing marketing of the dealers service departments.

Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

Good concept, Raybyrnes.

[CA renter]

[quote=Raybyrnes]I think the whole dealership system needs to change. We should be able to buy factory direct. Dealers should register customers who come in for a test drive and should be paid a fee by the manufacturer for acting as an agent.

In return dealers should compensate manufactures for providing marketing of the dealers service departments.

Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

Good concept, Raybyrnes.

[CA renter]

[quote=Raybyrnes]I think the whole dealership system needs to change. We should be able to buy factory direct. Dealers should register customers who come in for a test drive and should be paid a fee by the manufacturer for acting as an agent.

In return dealers should compensate manufactures for providing marketing of the dealers service departments.

Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

Good concept, Raybyrnes.

[CA renter]

[quote=Raybyrnes]I think the whole dealership system needs to change. We should be able to buy factory direct. Dealers should register customers who come in for a test drive and should be paid a fee by the manufacturer for acting as an agent.

In return dealers should compensate manufactures for providing marketing of the dealers service departments.

Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.[/quote]

Good concept, Raybyrnes.

[moneymaker]

A little OT from the original post. Went to the car show this last week and I’ll have to say I was surprised @ how many humongous SUV type cars there were there. Is this what everyone wants? None of the cars impressed me, well except the ones out of my price range that is. The Tesla and the solar powered boat are novel and heading in the right direction,perhaps. The jeep ride was cool and the ladies were of course nice. All in all don’t think I’ll go to another one of these shows again, even the toyotas and other imports seemed to be making huge ass cars. Strangely Nissan seemed to be missing from the attendees. Drew ford seemed friendly when I purchased from them many years ago.

[moneymaker]

A little OT from the original post. Went to the car show this last week and I’ll have to say I was surprised @ how many humongous SUV type cars there were there. Is this what everyone wants? None of the cars impressed me, well except the ones out of my price range that is. The Tesla and the solar powered boat are novel and heading in the right direction,perhaps. The jeep ride was cool and the ladies were of course nice. All in all don’t think I’ll go to another one of these shows again, even the toyotas and other imports seemed to be making huge ass cars. Strangely Nissan seemed to be missing from the attendees. Drew ford seemed friendly when I purchased from them many years ago.

[moneymaker]

A little OT from the original post. Went to the car show this last week and I’ll have to say I was surprised @ how many humongous SUV type cars there were there. Is this what everyone wants? None of the cars impressed me, well except the ones out of my price range that is. The Tesla and the solar powered boat are novel and heading in the right direction,perhaps. The jeep ride was cool and the ladies were of course nice. All in all don’t think I’ll go to another one of these shows again, even the toyotas and other imports seemed to be making huge ass cars. Strangely Nissan seemed to be missing from the attendees. Drew ford seemed friendly when I purchased from them many years ago.

[moneymaker]

A little OT from the original post. Went to the car show this last week and I’ll have to say I was surprised @ how many humongous SUV type cars there were there. Is this what everyone wants? None of the cars impressed me, well except the ones out of my price range that is. The Tesla and the solar powered boat are novel and heading in the right direction,perhaps. The jeep ride was cool and the ladies were of course nice. All in all don’t think I’ll go to another one of these shows again, even the toyotas and other imports seemed to be making huge ass cars. Strangely Nissan seemed to be missing from the attendees. Drew ford seemed friendly when I purchased from them many years ago.

[moneymaker]

A little OT from the original post. Went to the car show this last week and I’ll have to say I was surprised @ how many humongous SUV type cars there were there. Is this what everyone wants? None of the cars impressed me, well except the ones out of my price range that is. The Tesla and the solar powered boat are novel and heading in the right direction,perhaps. The jeep ride was cool and the ladies were of course nice. All in all don’t think I’ll go to another one of these shows again, even the toyotas and other imports seemed to be making huge ass cars. Strangely Nissan seemed to be missing from the attendees. Drew ford seemed friendly when I purchased from them many years ago.

[sdduuuude]

Use costco if you have a membership.

With costco, you go to the web site, enter your member number, enter the car you want and it emails you the name of a fleet rep at a local dealer. The fleet reps are simple, straightforward people. I’ve dealt with three and in every case, they weren’t into B.S. They are a little rushed cuz they are busy people, but they aren’t pushing for a sale and kind of give you a “here’s the deal, take it or leave it” approach.

The fleet rep shows you his invoice. The price you pay is invoice plus or minux X, where X varies, depending on the year and model.

You can get service at a dealer other than the one you use for the purchase.

Even if you buy a car at Mossy, avoid their service. My wife always complained about their high-pressure, fear-based, commission-paid sales team. I thought she was just being a girl, then a dude tried to convince me that my brakes were metal-to-metal in order to sell me a brake job. I said I would do it later and he got mad, told me it was unsafe, blah, blah. I took it to Beeline and they said I had 10% left.

[sdduuuude]

Use costco if you have a membership.

With costco, you go to the web site, enter your member number, enter the car you want and it emails you the name of a fleet rep at a local dealer. The fleet reps are simple, straightforward people. I’ve dealt with three and in every case, they weren’t into B.S. They are a little rushed cuz they are busy people, but they aren’t pushing for a sale and kind of give you a “here’s the deal, take it or leave it” approach.

The fleet rep shows you his invoice. The price you pay is invoice plus or minux X, where X varies, depending on the year and model.

You can get service at a dealer other than the one you use for the purchase.

Even if you buy a car at Mossy, avoid their service. My wife always complained about their high-pressure, fear-based, commission-paid sales team. I thought she was just being a girl, then a dude tried to convince me that my brakes were metal-to-metal in order to sell me a brake job. I said I would do it later and he got mad, told me it was unsafe, blah, blah. I took it to Beeline and they said I had 10% left.

[sdduuuude]

Use costco if you have a membership.

With costco, you go to the web site, enter your member number, enter the car you want and it emails you the name of a fleet rep at a local dealer. The fleet reps are simple, straightforward people. I’ve dealt with three and in every case, they weren’t into B.S. They are a little rushed cuz they are busy people, but they aren’t pushing for a sale and kind of give you a “here’s the deal, take it or leave it” approach.

The fleet rep shows you his invoice. The price you pay is invoice plus or minux X, where X varies, depending on the year and model.

You can get service at a dealer other than the one you use for the purchase.

Even if you buy a car at Mossy, avoid their service. My wife always complained about their high-pressure, fear-based, commission-paid sales team. I thought she was just being a girl, then a dude tried to convince me that my brakes were metal-to-metal in order to sell me a brake job. I said I would do it later and he got mad, told me it was unsafe, blah, blah. I took it to Beeline and they said I had 10% left.

[sdduuuude]

Use costco if you have a membership.

With costco, you go to the web site, enter your member number, enter the car you want and it emails you the name of a fleet rep at a local dealer. The fleet reps are simple, straightforward people. I’ve dealt with three and in every case, they weren’t into B.S. They are a little rushed cuz they are busy people, but they aren’t pushing for a sale and kind of give you a “here’s the deal, take it or leave it” approach.

The fleet rep shows you his invoice. The price you pay is invoice plus or minux X, where X varies, depending on the year and model.

You can get service at a dealer other than the one you use for the purchase.

Even if you buy a car at Mossy, avoid their service. My wife always complained about their high-pressure, fear-based, commission-paid sales team. I thought she was just being a girl, then a dude tried to convince me that my brakes were metal-to-metal in order to sell me a brake job. I said I would do it later and he got mad, told me it was unsafe, blah, blah. I took it to Beeline and they said I had 10% left.

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