OT: Ford Dealer Recommendation

[Raybyrnes]

I think the whole dealership system needs to change. We should be able to buy factory direct. Dealers should register customers who come in for a test drive and should be paid a fee by the manufacturer for acting as an agent.

In return dealers should compensate manufactures for providing marketing of the dealers service departments.

Prices of vehicles would be set by manufacturers so they wold be identical regardless of where you buy. This system would refocus people on service as opposed to transactions.

[svelte]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

Is this the “far superior” transmission you are referring to?

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0da296/90

Comparing the CX-7 to the Edge is apples to oranges since the CX-7 comes with a 244 HP 4 cylinder while the Edge comes with a 265 HP 3.5 liter V6.

The CX-9 does have a 273 HP 3.7 liter V6, which as you state is the same base Ford Cyclone engine as the Edge.

[svelte]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

Is this the “far superior” transmission you are referring to?

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0da296/90

Comparing the CX-7 to the Edge is apples to oranges since the CX-7 comes with a 244 HP 4 cylinder while the Edge comes with a 265 HP 3.5 liter V6.

The CX-9 does have a 273 HP 3.7 liter V6, which as you state is the same base Ford Cyclone engine as the Edge.

[svelte]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

Is this the “far superior” transmission you are referring to?

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0da296/90

Comparing the CX-7 to the Edge is apples to oranges since the CX-7 comes with a 244 HP 4 cylinder while the Edge comes with a 265 HP 3.5 liter V6.

The CX-9 does have a 273 HP 3.7 liter V6, which as you state is the same base Ford Cyclone engine as the Edge.

[svelte]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

Is this the “far superior” transmission you are referring to?

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0da296/90

Comparing the CX-7 to the Edge is apples to oranges since the CX-7 comes with a 244 HP 4 cylinder while the Edge comes with a 265 HP 3.5 liter V6.

The CX-9 does have a 273 HP 3.7 liter V6, which as you state is the same base Ford Cyclone engine as the Edge.

[svelte]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

Is this the “far superior” transmission you are referring to?

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f0da296/90

Comparing the CX-7 to the Edge is apples to oranges since the CX-7 comes with a 244 HP 4 cylinder while the Edge comes with a 265 HP 3.5 liter V6.

The CX-9 does have a 273 HP 3.7 liter V6, which as you state is the same base Ford Cyclone engine as the Edge.

[Coronita]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

I was considering the CX-7 but it’s a 4 banger turbo and it’s not more fuel efficient than the 3.5V6 in the Edge, and the last thing I want to deal with are turbo’s in an SUV, which needs to be pampered. CX-9 is MDX territory, not interested.

[Coronita]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

I was considering the CX-7 but it’s a 4 banger turbo and it’s not more fuel efficient than the 3.5V6 in the Edge, and the last thing I want to deal with are turbo’s in an SUV, which needs to be pampered. CX-9 is MDX territory, not interested.

[Coronita]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

I was considering the CX-7 but it’s a 4 banger turbo and it’s not more fuel efficient than the 3.5V6 in the Edge, and the last thing I want to deal with are turbo’s in an SUV, which needs to be pampered. CX-9 is MDX territory, not interested.

[Coronita]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

I was considering the CX-7 but it’s a 4 banger turbo and it’s not more fuel efficient than the 3.5V6 in the Edge, and the last thing I want to deal with are turbo’s in an SUV, which needs to be pampered. CX-9 is MDX territory, not interested.

[Coronita]

[quote=Jim Jones]Flu,

Take a look at the Mazda CX-7 or CX-9. I think it’s nicer then the Edge and has the Ford engine with a far superior Japanese designed transmission. It is not US made but it is a much nicer vehicle for the same price.[/quote]

I was considering the CX-7 but it’s a 4 banger turbo and it’s not more fuel efficient than the 3.5V6 in the Edge, and the last thing I want to deal with are turbo’s in an SUV, which needs to be pampered. CX-9 is MDX territory, not interested.

[Rt.66]

This is the dependability ranking:
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009043

I prefer this to the “initial quality” ranking because this one is based on quality after the initial purchase excitement has worn off.

Buick is Number 1
Ford is number 13
Mazda is number……….wait for it…….34

Problems per 100 vehicles is relativiely close among the top performers with 37 seperating Buick and Ford but it then makes a big jump down around the bottom where Mazda resides with a whopping 68 seperating Ford and Mazda’s ranking.

[Rt.66]

This is the dependability ranking:
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009043

I prefer this to the “initial quality” ranking because this one is based on quality after the initial purchase excitement has worn off.

Buick is Number 1
Ford is number 13
Mazda is number……….wait for it…….34

Problems per 100 vehicles is relativiely close among the top performers with 37 seperating Buick and Ford but it then makes a big jump down around the bottom where Mazda resides with a whopping 68 seperating Ford and Mazda’s ranking.

[Rt.66]

This is the dependability ranking:
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009043

I prefer this to the “initial quality” ranking because this one is based on quality after the initial purchase excitement has worn off.

Buick is Number 1
Ford is number 13
Mazda is number……….wait for it…….34

Problems per 100 vehicles is relativiely close among the top performers with 37 seperating Buick and Ford but it then makes a big jump down around the bottom where Mazda resides with a whopping 68 seperating Ford and Mazda’s ranking.

[Rt.66]

This is the dependability ranking:
http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009043

I prefer this to the “initial quality” ranking because this one is based on quality after the initial purchase excitement has worn off.

Buick is Number 1
Ford is number 13
Mazda is number……….wait for it…….34

Problems per 100 vehicles is relativiely close among the top performers with 37 seperating Buick and Ford but it then makes a big jump down around the bottom where Mazda resides with a whopping 68 seperating Ford and Mazda’s ranking.

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