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March 9, 2010 at 3:35 PM #524408March 9, 2010 at 3:41 PM #523481
Eugene
Participant[quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.
March 9, 2010 at 3:41 PM #523618Eugene
Participant[quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.
March 9, 2010 at 3:41 PM #524059Eugene
Participant[quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.
March 9, 2010 at 3:41 PM #524155Eugene
Participant[quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.
March 9, 2010 at 3:41 PM #524413Eugene
Participant[quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.
March 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM #523531ocrenter
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.[/quote]
the physicians isn’t the issue.
even at rates of over $400k for the ED MD and the radiologist, the total physician fee for all of the doctors involved was only $1350 for a 5 day admission.
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.
March 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM #523669ocrenter
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.[/quote]
the physicians isn’t the issue.
even at rates of over $400k for the ED MD and the radiologist, the total physician fee for all of the doctors involved was only $1350 for a 5 day admission.
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.
March 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM #524109ocrenter
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.[/quote]
the physicians isn’t the issue.
even at rates of over $400k for the ED MD and the radiologist, the total physician fee for all of the doctors involved was only $1350 for a 5 day admission.
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.
March 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM #524205ocrenter
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.[/quote]
the physicians isn’t the issue.
even at rates of over $400k for the ED MD and the radiologist, the total physician fee for all of the doctors involved was only $1350 for a 5 day admission.
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.
March 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM #524463ocrenter
Participant[quote=Eugene][quote=briansd1]
If we bring down health care costs, our whole economy would flourish.[/quote]If you want to bring down health care costs, start by demanding that politicians increase funding of residency programs.[/quote]
the physicians isn’t the issue.
even at rates of over $400k for the ED MD and the radiologist, the total physician fee for all of the doctors involved was only $1350 for a 5 day admission.
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.
March 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM #523536Eugene
Participant[quote=ocrenter]
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.[/quote]
Those are the ones you’re supposed to negotiate away. They are fictional charges which have no bearing to the real cost of healthcare, because almost no one would pay them.
In other words – even if the hospital would charge everyone honestly, we’d still spend 16% of GDP on healthcare.
If this weren’t the case, and you could really expect to cut OP’s hospital bill from 30k to 5k through single-payer healthcare reform, you would’ve cut spending from 16% of GDP to 3% of GDP. Which is significantly less than what everyone outside sub-Saharan Africa spends.
March 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM #523674Eugene
Participant[quote=ocrenter]
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.[/quote]
Those are the ones you’re supposed to negotiate away. They are fictional charges which have no bearing to the real cost of healthcare, because almost no one would pay them.
In other words – even if the hospital would charge everyone honestly, we’d still spend 16% of GDP on healthcare.
If this weren’t the case, and you could really expect to cut OP’s hospital bill from 30k to 5k through single-payer healthcare reform, you would’ve cut spending from 16% of GDP to 3% of GDP. Which is significantly less than what everyone outside sub-Saharan Africa spends.
March 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM #524114Eugene
Participant[quote=ocrenter]
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.[/quote]
Those are the ones you’re supposed to negotiate away. They are fictional charges which have no bearing to the real cost of healthcare, because almost no one would pay them.
In other words – even if the hospital would charge everyone honestly, we’d still spend 16% of GDP on healthcare.
If this weren’t the case, and you could really expect to cut OP’s hospital bill from 30k to 5k through single-payer healthcare reform, you would’ve cut spending from 16% of GDP to 3% of GDP. Which is significantly less than what everyone outside sub-Saharan Africa spends.
March 9, 2010 at 5:06 PM #524210Eugene
Participant[quote=ocrenter]
breaking everything down, we can only account for $5000, so where did they get the other $25000 in extra charges? that’s the big question.[/quote]
Those are the ones you’re supposed to negotiate away. They are fictional charges which have no bearing to the real cost of healthcare, because almost no one would pay them.
In other words – even if the hospital would charge everyone honestly, we’d still spend 16% of GDP on healthcare.
If this weren’t the case, and you could really expect to cut OP’s hospital bill from 30k to 5k through single-payer healthcare reform, you would’ve cut spending from 16% of GDP to 3% of GDP. Which is significantly less than what everyone outside sub-Saharan Africa spends.
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