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March 18, 2014 at 3:25 AM #772005March 18, 2014 at 3:59 AM #772008
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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]Failed an English class in hs. Got some B’s here and there. Did not subscribe to the belief that homework was actually mandatory.[/quote]
i have this very vivid memory from 2011 of taking him to sign up for summer school after the failed english class. The line was super long. I ran intoa guy i know and his kid. Inside, i was super embarrassed and felt ashamed. there was no reason to. i felt fine before i saw the guy i knew. and hell, he was there for the same reason i was, to get his kid signed up for summer school cause she failed, too…still, the failure in front of another peer, i felt so embarrassed internally. tried not to let any of that show…
kid wasn’t ashamed one iota. maybe he shouldve been. we just skipped over guilt and shame…and i almost have a ph.d in guilt and shame. i coulda taught him so much…i mean, people with phds in math, their kids mandatorily have to know calculus by 8th grade, right? he should be expert level by now, given my credentials……
if he’d gone to community college, that wouldve been fine too. woulda saved me a bunch of money…he’s so calm and confident…bears no resemblance to me…giant ball of anxiety and guilt and fear…
you know what…out of that giant line of failed students waiting to sign up for summer school…ic an’t swear to this because i wasn’t looking hard..but if memory serves me correct..i cant remember seeing any asians there at all…
March 18, 2014 at 11:55 PM #772056CA renter
ParticipantScaredy,
As a homeschooling parent with a similar philosophy (what I would call hybrid unschoolers), some of your posts give me great hope, and some make me worry more than I’d like.
So far, our kids love “school” and learning. They read for hours every day, and do all sorts of wonderful, creative things, just like your kids. They’ve never experienced bullying or peer pressure, and are free to be 100% themselves. They live an idyllic childhood, but Mr. CAR and I often have these worried, guilty moments when we wonder if we’re doing them a huge disservice. Perhaps we should be instructing them more on how life is supposed to suck, and you’re not supposed to like whatever it is that you “should” be doing.
It’s not easy being a parent these days. You end up worrying no matter what you do.
March 19, 2014 at 7:07 AM #772063Participantultimately, whatever you do, the little freaks, and every one of us, have to figure it out ourselves.
what is k8 but obedience traning, after all? and sedentary prep?
worry is for parents.
March 19, 2014 at 7:10 AM #772064Participantperhaps you can review this monty python sketch with them to discuss how much harder things used to be…and how life was intended to be suffering and pain…
Monty Python’s Flying Circus –
“Four Yorkshiremen”[ from the album Live At Drury Lane, 1974 ]
The Players:
Michael Palin – First Yorkshireman;
Graham Chapman – Second Yorkshireman;
Terry Jones – Third Yorkshireman;
Eric Idle – Fourth Yorkshireman;The Scene:
Four well-dressed men are sitting together at a vacation resort.
‘Farewell to Thee’ is played in the background on Hawaiian guitar.FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, very passable, that, very passable bit of risotto.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
Nothing like a good glass of Château de Chasselas, eh, Josiah?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
You’re right there, Obadiah.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Who’d have thought thirty year ago we’d all be sittin’ here drinking Château de Chasselas, eh?
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o’ tea.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
A cup o’ cold tea.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Without milk or sugar.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Or tea.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In a cracked cup, an’ all.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Because we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, “Money doesn’t buy you happiness, son”.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, ‘e was right.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye, ‘e was.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
I was happier then and I had nothin’. We used to live in this tiny old house with great big holes in the roof.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
House! You were lucky to live in a house! We used to live in one room, all twenty-six of us, no furniture, ‘alf the floor was missing, and we were all ‘uddled together in one corner for fear of falling.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Eh, you were lucky to have a room! We used to have to live in t’ corridor!
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we used to dream of livin’ in a corridor! Would ha’ been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House? Huh.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Well, when I say ‘house’ it was only a hole in the ground covered by a sheet of tarpaulin, but it was a house to us.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
We were evicted from our ‘ole in the ground; we ‘ad to go and live in a lake.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
You were lucky to have a lake! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in t’ shoebox in t’ middle o’ road.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
Cardboard box?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Aye.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’ mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi’ his belt.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o’clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of ‘ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to ‘ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o’clock at night and lick road clean wit’ tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit’ bread knife.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o’clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
And you try and tell the young people of today that ….. they won’t believe you.
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They won’t!March 19, 2014 at 7:36 AM #772069Participantperhaps an early failure is good.
March 19, 2014 at 1:12 PM #772094CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=CA renter][quote=CDMA ENG]The college years are fun and exhausting at the same time…
You start to feel that the sky is the limit as you learn some incrediable concepts…
It is only after years of doing super-tech type work does that engineering degree begin to lose its luster…
The years in engineering school was some of the coolest in your life… You get to sit around with your friends and brainstorm… It was joyful some days… other times it was like having a gun to your head…
Tell him to enjoy every minute of it! Those heady days will never come again.
CE[/quote]
Love the first part, but think your last sentence does not necessarily have to be true. Some people find their calling in life when they’re in their 70s or later![/quote]
i dont have the heart to tell him it’s all downhill from here. and it may not be true. while the trajectory may be generally down, there are gonna be some small rallies along the way to bring in some sucker hope![/quote]
It’s not all down hill. He will have the first few years after college as well where he is young and flexible and can take risks and new career paths as he wants. Those are good days too and I made some life long friends in those years.
It’s just after we trade our freedom/instability for love/stability that we ALL HAVE TO PLOD the course we have established for ourselves. Dream time is over for most of us…
That being said I have had some huge personal highlights in my career such as;
Being assigned as a 9/11 first responder (didn’t actually go as it was deemed unnecessary)
Chopper flights in to remotes sections of wilderness. Woot!
Lived in 10 cities.
Lived in Alaska! Alaska! Damn crazy place!
Built some of the largest in-building networks in the world.
Meet/seen celebrities when dealing with the Las Vegas casinos.
Traveled the US extensively (missed out on several gigs in Sweden, Brazil, and Italy).
Meet life long friends in these travels including ppl like SDDuuuude.
And most of all… Met my wife on these travels.
So its not all downhill…
Just not as romantic as those first days…
CE
March 19, 2014 at 7:42 PM #772101ParticipantI can’t remember any highlights. I remember the oldest in the heat tray then a lengthy blur. Then some gin and tonics tonight. I see him very clear in the tray. More vivid than reality right now. So tiny and alert.
March 19, 2014 at 10:04 PM #772104SK in CV
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]perhaps an early failure is good.[/quote]
I think it’s an essential part of growing up. I remember when my kids were little, there were a lot of parents that wouldn’t let their kids do anything they weren’t good at, or where success wasn’t guaranteed.
I took the opposite view. Learning how to deal with failure is essential. And my kids handled it very differently. It made my son fearless. He isn’t afraid to try anything. (He’s headed to Gaza this summer. Which is kinda worrisome. He looks like a punk orthodox rabbi.)
And with my daughter, it just increased her always present drive for perfection. She’s always hated to fail, for her, a 99 on a test was a failure. But when she gets 100, she finds a harder test. She’s been a bit of a workout freak for awhile, but for some reason couldn’t do pull-ups. She texted me this morning with a picture of her blistered hand. After doing 60 pull-ups.
March 19, 2014 at 11:37 PM #772108Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]perhaps you can review this monty python sketch with them to discuss how much harder things used to be…and how life was intended to be suffering and pain…
Monty Python’s Flying Circus –
“Four Yorkshiremen”[/quote]
Love Monty Python!
Will be sharing this with the kids. 🙂
March 20, 2014 at 4:26 AM #772113ParticipantUn schooling with monty python. Dangerous.
March 20, 2014 at 4:29 AM #772114Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=scaredyclassic]perhaps an early failure is good.[/quote]
I think it’s an essential part of growing up. I remember when my kids were little, there were a lot of parents that wouldn’t let their kids do anything they weren’t good at, or where success wasn’t guaranteed.
I took the opposite view. Learning how to deal with failure is essential. And my kids handled it very differently. It made my son fearless. He isn’t afraid to try anything. (He’s headed to Gaza this summer. Which is kinda worrisome. He looks like a punk orthodox rabbi.)
And with my daughter, it just increased her always present drive for perfection. She’s always hated to fail, for her, a 99 on a test was a failure. But when she gets 100, she finds a harder test. She’s been a bit of a workout freak for awhile, but for some reason couldn’t do pull-ups. She texted me this morning with a picture of her blistered hand. After doing 60 pull-ups.[/quote]
lot of girls have trouble with pullups. A lot of guys do too. If she’s pumping them out now she is very intense indeed.
Why gaza? Adventure?
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