OT: Don’t F… with Americans….

[Arraya]

Here comes the liberal Pirate apologists.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-you-are-being-lied-to-about-pirates-1225817.html

Pirates were the first people to rebel against this world. They mutinied – and created a different way of working on the seas. Once they had a ship, the pirates elected their captains, and made all their decisions collectively, without torture. They shared their bounty out in what Rediker calls “one of the most egalitarian plans for the disposition of resources to be found anywhere in the eighteenth century”.

They even took in escaped African slaves and lived with them as equals. The pirates showed “quite clearly – and subversively – that ships did not have to be run in the brutal and oppressive ways of the merchant service and the Royal Navy.” This is why they were romantic heroes, despite being unproductive thieves.

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In 1991, the government of Somalia collapsed. Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation ever since – and the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country’s food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.

Yes: nuclear waste. As soon as the government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died.

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At the same time, other European ships have been looting Somalia’s seas of their greatest resource: seafood. We have destroyed our own fish stocks by overexploitation – and now we have moved on to theirs. More than $300m-worth of tuna, shrimp, and lobster are being stolen every year by illegal trawlers. The local fishermen are now starving. Mohammed Hussein, a fisherman in the town of Marka 100km south of Mogadishu, told Reuters: “If nothing is done, there soon won’t be much fish left in our coastal waters.”

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This is the context in which the “pirates” have emerged. Somalian fishermen took speedboats to try to dissuade the dumpers and trawlers, or at least levy a “tax” on them. They call themselves the Volunteer Coastguard of Somalia – and ordinary Somalis agree. The independent Somalian news site WardheerNews found 70 per cent “strongly supported the piracy as a form of national defence”.

No, this doesn’t make hostage-taking justifiable, and yes, some are clearly just gangsters – especially those who have held up World Food Programme supplies. But in a telephone interview, one of the pirate leaders, Sugule Ali: “We don’t consider ourselves sea bandits. We consider sea bandits [to be] those who illegally fish and dump in our seas.” William Scott would understand.

Did we expect starving Somalians to stand passively on their beaches, paddling in our toxic waste, and watch us snatch their fish to eat in restaurants in London and Paris and Rome?

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How dare they protest against having their seas looted of fish and used as nuclear waste dumps by the Europeans. Don’t they realize they’re Africans? After 500 years, you think they’d know their place by now.

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How dare they protest against having their seas looted of fish and used as nuclear waste dumps by the Europeans. Don’t they realize they’re Africans? After 500 years, you think they’d know their place by now.

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How dare they protest against having their seas looted of fish and used as nuclear waste dumps by the Europeans. Don’t they realize they’re Africans? After 500 years, you think they’d know their place by now.

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How dare they protest against having their seas looted of fish and used as nuclear waste dumps by the Europeans. Don’t they realize they’re Africans? After 500 years, you think they’d know their place by now.

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How dare they protest against having their seas looted of fish and used as nuclear waste dumps by the Europeans. Don’t they realize they’re Africans? After 500 years, you think they’d know their place by now.

[Coronita]

Holy sh!t. Some of you folks sound like folks that think the people that beat up Reginald Denny should be excused from their actions because those folks were “wronged” by what happened with Rodney King and that LA should have been sued for failing to protect Reginald Denny.

No wonder, so many Americans get away with crime. No accountability, none whatsoever.

That U.S. humanitarian ship hardly had anything to do with the fish looting or nuclear waste dump. But why bother separating two completely different events when it’s convenient to make excuses for otherwise inexcusable actions. And yes, sometimes the way you deal with punks is you hit back twice as hard so they don’t think about hitting you again the next time.

[Coronita]

Holy sh!t. Some of you folks sound like folks that think the people that beat up Reginald Denny should be excused from their actions because those folks were “wronged” by what happened with Rodney King and that LA should have been sued for failing to protect Reginald Denny.

No wonder, so many Americans get away with crime. No accountability, none whatsoever.

That U.S. humanitarian ship hardly had anything to do with the fish looting or nuclear waste dump. But why bother separating two completely different events when it’s convenient to make excuses for otherwise inexcusable actions. And yes, sometimes the way you deal with punks is you hit back twice as hard so they don’t think about hitting you again the next time.

[Coronita]

Holy sh!t. Some of you folks sound like folks that think the people that beat up Reginald Denny should be excused from their actions because those folks were “wronged” by what happened with Rodney King and that LA should have been sued for failing to protect Reginald Denny.

No wonder, so many Americans get away with crime. No accountability, none whatsoever.

That U.S. humanitarian ship hardly had anything to do with the fish looting or nuclear waste dump. But why bother separating two completely different events when it’s convenient to make excuses for otherwise inexcusable actions. And yes, sometimes the way you deal with punks is you hit back twice as hard so they don’t think about hitting you again the next time.

[Coronita]

Holy sh!t. Some of you folks sound like folks that think the people that beat up Reginald Denny should be excused from their actions because those folks were “wronged” by what happened with Rodney King and that LA should have been sued for failing to protect Reginald Denny.

No wonder, so many Americans get away with crime. No accountability, none whatsoever.

That U.S. humanitarian ship hardly had anything to do with the fish looting or nuclear waste dump. But why bother separating two completely different events when it’s convenient to make excuses for otherwise inexcusable actions. And yes, sometimes the way you deal with punks is you hit back twice as hard so they don’t think about hitting you again the next time.

[Coronita]

Holy sh!t. Some of you folks sound like folks that think the people that beat up Reginald Denny should be excused from their actions because those folks were “wronged” by what happened with Rodney King and that LA should have been sued for failing to protect Reginald Denny.

No wonder, so many Americans get away with crime. No accountability, none whatsoever.

That U.S. humanitarian ship hardly had anything to do with the fish looting or nuclear waste dump. But why bother separating two completely different events when it’s convenient to make excuses for otherwise inexcusable actions. And yes, sometimes the way you deal with punks is you hit back twice as hard so they don’t think about hitting you again the next time.

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Not excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.

I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…

[blahblahblah]

Not excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.

I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…

[blahblahblah]

Not excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.

I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…

[blahblahblah]

Not excusing it FLU, just pointing out that once someone starts breaking the law and getting away with it then all hell breaks loose. The “civilized” countries like those in the EU frequently break the law first and then complain when everyone else starts doing it too. As for those pirates, yes they are goons but keep in mind that probably very few of them can even read and write much less tell a humanitarian supply ship from a nuclear waste dumping boat. Again, there is no excuse for breaking the law but that applies to “civilized” countries too.

I hate this simplistic Rush Limbaugh thinking that whenever you try to look into the background of any situation you are “excusing” criminal behavior. No I’m not, I’m just trying to figure out why pirates have appeared there all of a sudden. Now we know, it turns out they’re not the first to start breaking laws and killing people. Big surprise…

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