OT: Countdown: Three Weeks to Chaos

[nostradamus]

[quote=Rustico]In hard times I’ll take family jewels vs. precious metals anyday. I think Nostradamus alluded to that.However, realizing that each of us is endowed differently to handle calamity, I think it would be wise to consider sharing and helping fellow citizens. Correct me if I am wrong but I hear a lot of ,me, me, me.Greed actually…I am going to capitalize by dumping dollars, I am going to steal land for my shiny stuff. What does that have to do with a catastrophe? That is what scares me the most. The idea goes through my head that the ones most obsessing about hypothetical Helter skelter scenarios are going to be the least useful to anyone when it happens.[/quote]

You’re right. I think it’s a result of the world we were brought up in. Since my whole life has been spent in pursuit of the almighty dollar it is hard to imagine a world departed from it.

My biggest fear is panicked masses when the world changes to whatever it’s changing to. When someone is drowning sometimes they drown their rescuers as well. I can already see (or perhaps it’s my own self-fulfilling prophecy) stress on people’s faces and in their behavior.

[Arraya]

[quote=Rustico]In hard times I’ll take family jewels vs. precious metals anyday. I think Nostradamus alluded to that.However, realizing that each of us is endowed differently to handle calamity, I think it would be wise to consider sharing and helping fellow citizens. Correct me if I am wrong but I hear a lot of ,me, me, me.Greed actually…I am going to capitalize by dumping dollars, I am going to steal land for my shiny stuff. What does that have to do with a catastrophe? That is what scares me the most. The idea goes through my head that the ones most obsessing about hypothetical Helter skelter scenarios are going to be the least useful to anyone when it happens.[/quote]

Rus, you are correct. Self interest which is pretty much the driver of our civilization will be the death of it as well. This thread is not about profiting from destruction, it’s about survival and hopefully helping others survive. As in an airplane crash you must first put on your oxygen mask before putting it on anybody else. Unfortunately not many people believe the plane is crashing and won’t until it’s a smoldering wreck.

Then when you tell the people the airplane is crashing, they shun you and call you crazy.

[Arraya]

[quote=Rustico]In hard times I’ll take family jewels vs. precious metals anyday. I think Nostradamus alluded to that.However, realizing that each of us is endowed differently to handle calamity, I think it would be wise to consider sharing and helping fellow citizens. Correct me if I am wrong but I hear a lot of ,me, me, me.Greed actually…I am going to capitalize by dumping dollars, I am going to steal land for my shiny stuff. What does that have to do with a catastrophe? That is what scares me the most. The idea goes through my head that the ones most obsessing about hypothetical Helter skelter scenarios are going to be the least useful to anyone when it happens.[/quote]

Rus, you are correct. Self interest which is pretty much the driver of our civilization will be the death of it as well. This thread is not about profiting from destruction, it’s about survival and hopefully helping others survive. As in an airplane crash you must first put on your oxygen mask before putting it on anybody else. Unfortunately not many people believe the plane is crashing and won’t until it’s a smoldering wreck.

Then when you tell the people the airplane is crashing, they shun you and call you crazy.

[Arraya]

[quote=Rustico]In hard times I’ll take family jewels vs. precious metals anyday. I think Nostradamus alluded to that.However, realizing that each of us is endowed differently to handle calamity, I think it would be wise to consider sharing and helping fellow citizens. Correct me if I am wrong but I hear a lot of ,me, me, me.Greed actually…I am going to capitalize by dumping dollars, I am going to steal land for my shiny stuff. What does that have to do with a catastrophe? That is what scares me the most. The idea goes through my head that the ones most obsessing about hypothetical Helter skelter scenarios are going to be the least useful to anyone when it happens.[/quote]

Rus, you are correct. Self interest which is pretty much the driver of our civilization will be the death of it as well. This thread is not about profiting from destruction, it’s about survival and hopefully helping others survive. As in an airplane crash you must first put on your oxygen mask before putting it on anybody else. Unfortunately not many people believe the plane is crashing and won’t until it’s a smoldering wreck.

Then when you tell the people the airplane is crashing, they shun you and call you crazy.

[Arraya]

[quote=Rustico]In hard times I’ll take family jewels vs. precious metals anyday. I think Nostradamus alluded to that.However, realizing that each of us is endowed differently to handle calamity, I think it would be wise to consider sharing and helping fellow citizens. Correct me if I am wrong but I hear a lot of ,me, me, me.Greed actually…I am going to capitalize by dumping dollars, I am going to steal land for my shiny stuff. What does that have to do with a catastrophe? That is what scares me the most. The idea goes through my head that the ones most obsessing about hypothetical Helter skelter scenarios are going to be the least useful to anyone when it happens.[/quote]

Rus, you are correct. Self interest which is pretty much the driver of our civilization will be the death of it as well. This thread is not about profiting from destruction, it’s about survival and hopefully helping others survive. As in an airplane crash you must first put on your oxygen mask before putting it on anybody else. Unfortunately not many people believe the plane is crashing and won’t until it’s a smoldering wreck.

Then when you tell the people the airplane is crashing, they shun you and call you crazy.

[Arraya]

[quote=Rustico]In hard times I’ll take family jewels vs. precious metals anyday. I think Nostradamus alluded to that.However, realizing that each of us is endowed differently to handle calamity, I think it would be wise to consider sharing and helping fellow citizens. Correct me if I am wrong but I hear a lot of ,me, me, me.Greed actually…I am going to capitalize by dumping dollars, I am going to steal land for my shiny stuff. What does that have to do with a catastrophe? That is what scares me the most. The idea goes through my head that the ones most obsessing about hypothetical Helter skelter scenarios are going to be the least useful to anyone when it happens.[/quote]

Rus, you are correct. Self interest which is pretty much the driver of our civilization will be the death of it as well. This thread is not about profiting from destruction, it’s about survival and hopefully helping others survive. As in an airplane crash you must first put on your oxygen mask before putting it on anybody else. Unfortunately not many people believe the plane is crashing and won’t until it’s a smoldering wreck.

Then when you tell the people the airplane is crashing, they shun you and call you crazy.

[partypup]

Agree completely, Arraya.

Rustico, let’s not mistake the desire to be self-sufficient — and in doing so, enhance our ability to help others — with “greed”. I fully anticipate that I will be called upon to help family and friends, and I am more than prepared to do so. However, without the proper resources, I won’t be able to do so. I’m certainly not looking to “steal” land. But I plan to be out of LA by the time the level of unrest becomes palpable to the general public, living on a spread large enough to accommodate my family and others who are in need and wish to join me. Frankly, I can’t see getting through the coming years without relying on a close-knit community of friends and family. I would hope that everyone will have something to bring to the table: land, seeds, skills, food, ammo and other hard assets. And if I can make the purchase farm-producing land at a bargain-basement price as real estate becomes increasingly illiquid, why should I be faulted for my foresight?

You might be interested in knowing that I have gone to great lengths over the past 2-1/2 years to sound the alarm and reach out to any and all friends and family who will listen. I advised them to sell their real estate; to greatly reduce their stock exposure; to keep plenty of cash on hand; to buy a weapon; to stock up on food and other supplies. I warned those I know, just as I wanted to warn others in this post. And many of my friends have actually thanked me recently for saving their financial hides. I know for a fact that everyone who has taken my advice is in a vastly superior position to survive what’s coming.

So, if the question is whether I will be “useful” to anyone when the hypothetical Helter Skelter scenarios come to pass, the answer is simple: I’ve already ben useful to plenty of people BEFORE the unthinkable happens. And that’s when it counts most. Because preparation is everything. I’m not giving these people fish; I’m teaching them HOW to fish.

Now, let me ask you: how do YOU propose to be “useful” when TSHTF? 😉

[partypup]

Agree completely, Arraya.

Rustico, let’s not mistake the desire to be self-sufficient — and in doing so, enhance our ability to help others — with “greed”. I fully anticipate that I will be called upon to help family and friends, and I am more than prepared to do so. However, without the proper resources, I won’t be able to do so. I’m certainly not looking to “steal” land. But I plan to be out of LA by the time the level of unrest becomes palpable to the general public, living on a spread large enough to accommodate my family and others who are in need and wish to join me. Frankly, I can’t see getting through the coming years without relying on a close-knit community of friends and family. I would hope that everyone will have something to bring to the table: land, seeds, skills, food, ammo and other hard assets. And if I can make the purchase farm-producing land at a bargain-basement price as real estate becomes increasingly illiquid, why should I be faulted for my foresight?

You might be interested in knowing that I have gone to great lengths over the past 2-1/2 years to sound the alarm and reach out to any and all friends and family who will listen. I advised them to sell their real estate; to greatly reduce their stock exposure; to keep plenty of cash on hand; to buy a weapon; to stock up on food and other supplies. I warned those I know, just as I wanted to warn others in this post. And many of my friends have actually thanked me recently for saving their financial hides. I know for a fact that everyone who has taken my advice is in a vastly superior position to survive what’s coming.

So, if the question is whether I will be “useful” to anyone when the hypothetical Helter Skelter scenarios come to pass, the answer is simple: I’ve already ben useful to plenty of people BEFORE the unthinkable happens. And that’s when it counts most. Because preparation is everything. I’m not giving these people fish; I’m teaching them HOW to fish.

Now, let me ask you: how do YOU propose to be “useful” when TSHTF? 😉

[partypup]

Agree completely, Arraya.

Rustico, let’s not mistake the desire to be self-sufficient — and in doing so, enhance our ability to help others — with “greed”. I fully anticipate that I will be called upon to help family and friends, and I am more than prepared to do so. However, without the proper resources, I won’t be able to do so. I’m certainly not looking to “steal” land. But I plan to be out of LA by the time the level of unrest becomes palpable to the general public, living on a spread large enough to accommodate my family and others who are in need and wish to join me. Frankly, I can’t see getting through the coming years without relying on a close-knit community of friends and family. I would hope that everyone will have something to bring to the table: land, seeds, skills, food, ammo and other hard assets. And if I can make the purchase farm-producing land at a bargain-basement price as real estate becomes increasingly illiquid, why should I be faulted for my foresight?

You might be interested in knowing that I have gone to great lengths over the past 2-1/2 years to sound the alarm and reach out to any and all friends and family who will listen. I advised them to sell their real estate; to greatly reduce their stock exposure; to keep plenty of cash on hand; to buy a weapon; to stock up on food and other supplies. I warned those I know, just as I wanted to warn others in this post. And many of my friends have actually thanked me recently for saving their financial hides. I know for a fact that everyone who has taken my advice is in a vastly superior position to survive what’s coming.

So, if the question is whether I will be “useful” to anyone when the hypothetical Helter Skelter scenarios come to pass, the answer is simple: I’ve already ben useful to plenty of people BEFORE the unthinkable happens. And that’s when it counts most. Because preparation is everything. I’m not giving these people fish; I’m teaching them HOW to fish.

Now, let me ask you: how do YOU propose to be “useful” when TSHTF? 😉

[partypup]

Agree completely, Arraya.

Rustico, let’s not mistake the desire to be self-sufficient — and in doing so, enhance our ability to help others — with “greed”. I fully anticipate that I will be called upon to help family and friends, and I am more than prepared to do so. However, without the proper resources, I won’t be able to do so. I’m certainly not looking to “steal” land. But I plan to be out of LA by the time the level of unrest becomes palpable to the general public, living on a spread large enough to accommodate my family and others who are in need and wish to join me. Frankly, I can’t see getting through the coming years without relying on a close-knit community of friends and family. I would hope that everyone will have something to bring to the table: land, seeds, skills, food, ammo and other hard assets. And if I can make the purchase farm-producing land at a bargain-basement price as real estate becomes increasingly illiquid, why should I be faulted for my foresight?

You might be interested in knowing that I have gone to great lengths over the past 2-1/2 years to sound the alarm and reach out to any and all friends and family who will listen. I advised them to sell their real estate; to greatly reduce their stock exposure; to keep plenty of cash on hand; to buy a weapon; to stock up on food and other supplies. I warned those I know, just as I wanted to warn others in this post. And many of my friends have actually thanked me recently for saving their financial hides. I know for a fact that everyone who has taken my advice is in a vastly superior position to survive what’s coming.

So, if the question is whether I will be “useful” to anyone when the hypothetical Helter Skelter scenarios come to pass, the answer is simple: I’ve already ben useful to plenty of people BEFORE the unthinkable happens. And that’s when it counts most. Because preparation is everything. I’m not giving these people fish; I’m teaching them HOW to fish.

Now, let me ask you: how do YOU propose to be “useful” when TSHTF? 😉

[partypup]

Agree completely, Arraya.

Rustico, let’s not mistake the desire to be self-sufficient — and in doing so, enhance our ability to help others — with “greed”. I fully anticipate that I will be called upon to help family and friends, and I am more than prepared to do so. However, without the proper resources, I won’t be able to do so. I’m certainly not looking to “steal” land. But I plan to be out of LA by the time the level of unrest becomes palpable to the general public, living on a spread large enough to accommodate my family and others who are in need and wish to join me. Frankly, I can’t see getting through the coming years without relying on a close-knit community of friends and family. I would hope that everyone will have something to bring to the table: land, seeds, skills, food, ammo and other hard assets. And if I can make the purchase farm-producing land at a bargain-basement price as real estate becomes increasingly illiquid, why should I be faulted for my foresight?

You might be interested in knowing that I have gone to great lengths over the past 2-1/2 years to sound the alarm and reach out to any and all friends and family who will listen. I advised them to sell their real estate; to greatly reduce their stock exposure; to keep plenty of cash on hand; to buy a weapon; to stock up on food and other supplies. I warned those I know, just as I wanted to warn others in this post. And many of my friends have actually thanked me recently for saving their financial hides. I know for a fact that everyone who has taken my advice is in a vastly superior position to survive what’s coming.

So, if the question is whether I will be “useful” to anyone when the hypothetical Helter Skelter scenarios come to pass, the answer is simple: I’ve already ben useful to plenty of people BEFORE the unthinkable happens. And that’s when it counts most. Because preparation is everything. I’m not giving these people fish; I’m teaching them HOW to fish.

Now, let me ask you: how do YOU propose to be “useful” when TSHTF? 😉

[TheBreeze]

So it’s now been 6 weeks since the original post was made. When’s the chaos going to get here already? Or did it get here and I missed it? Wasn’t gold supposed to sky rocket?

[TheBreeze]

So it’s now been 6 weeks since the original post was made. When’s the chaos going to get here already? Or did it get here and I missed it? Wasn’t gold supposed to sky rocket?

[TheBreeze]

So it’s now been 6 weeks since the original post was made. When’s the chaos going to get here already? Or did it get here and I missed it? Wasn’t gold supposed to sky rocket?

[TheBreeze]

So it’s now been 6 weeks since the original post was made. When’s the chaos going to get here already? Or did it get here and I missed it? Wasn’t gold supposed to sky rocket?

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