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October 3, 2008 at 12:51 PM #280496October 3, 2008 at 2:25 PM #280270ArrayaParticipant
“The one thing that’s been proven is the absolute fear-mongering that’s being used to drive us is false,” Sherman said. “I’ve seen members turn to each other and say if we don’t pass this bill, we’re going to have martial law in the United States.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-te.bailout02oct02,0,7917580.story
October 3, 2008 at 2:25 PM #280542ArrayaParticipant“The one thing that’s been proven is the absolute fear-mongering that’s being used to drive us is false,” Sherman said. “I’ve seen members turn to each other and say if we don’t pass this bill, we’re going to have martial law in the United States.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-te.bailout02oct02,0,7917580.story
October 3, 2008 at 2:25 PM #280549ArrayaParticipant“The one thing that’s been proven is the absolute fear-mongering that’s being used to drive us is false,” Sherman said. “I’ve seen members turn to each other and say if we don’t pass this bill, we’re going to have martial law in the United States.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-te.bailout02oct02,0,7917580.story
October 3, 2008 at 2:25 PM #280590ArrayaParticipant“The one thing that’s been proven is the absolute fear-mongering that’s being used to drive us is false,” Sherman said. “I’ve seen members turn to each other and say if we don’t pass this bill, we’re going to have martial law in the United States.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-te.bailout02oct02,0,7917580.story
October 3, 2008 at 2:25 PM #280601ArrayaParticipant“The one thing that’s been proven is the absolute fear-mongering that’s being used to drive us is false,” Sherman said. “I’ve seen members turn to each other and say if we don’t pass this bill, we’re going to have martial law in the United States.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/bal-te.bailout02oct02,0,7917580.story
October 4, 2008 at 8:43 AM #280643ArrayaParticipantWhat does it mean if you “cant maintain government operations?
“Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis,” Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter Thursday evening e-mailed to Paulson, “California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the federal treasury for short-term financing.”
Well at least all is well in Iraq
http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=607822
Upon arrival in Iraq from Washington, President Jalal Talabani told reporters that he is concerned over Washington threats.
“Washington threatened to use any means to seize Iraqi assets if we do not support the security pact,” Marsadiraq quoted Talabani as saying.
Washington currently seeks to sign a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with Baghdad to give legal basis to its military and political presence in oil-rich Iraq after a UN mandate defining its status expires on December 31.
October 4, 2008 at 8:43 AM #280917ArrayaParticipantWhat does it mean if you “cant maintain government operations?
“Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis,” Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter Thursday evening e-mailed to Paulson, “California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the federal treasury for short-term financing.”
Well at least all is well in Iraq
http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=607822
Upon arrival in Iraq from Washington, President Jalal Talabani told reporters that he is concerned over Washington threats.
“Washington threatened to use any means to seize Iraqi assets if we do not support the security pact,” Marsadiraq quoted Talabani as saying.
Washington currently seeks to sign a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with Baghdad to give legal basis to its military and political presence in oil-rich Iraq after a UN mandate defining its status expires on December 31.
October 4, 2008 at 8:43 AM #280922ArrayaParticipantWhat does it mean if you “cant maintain government operations?
“Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis,” Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter Thursday evening e-mailed to Paulson, “California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the federal treasury for short-term financing.”
Well at least all is well in Iraq
http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=607822
Upon arrival in Iraq from Washington, President Jalal Talabani told reporters that he is concerned over Washington threats.
“Washington threatened to use any means to seize Iraqi assets if we do not support the security pact,” Marsadiraq quoted Talabani as saying.
Washington currently seeks to sign a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with Baghdad to give legal basis to its military and political presence in oil-rich Iraq after a UN mandate defining its status expires on December 31.
October 4, 2008 at 8:43 AM #280965ArrayaParticipantWhat does it mean if you “cant maintain government operations?
“Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis,” Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter Thursday evening e-mailed to Paulson, “California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the federal treasury for short-term financing.”
Well at least all is well in Iraq
http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=607822
Upon arrival in Iraq from Washington, President Jalal Talabani told reporters that he is concerned over Washington threats.
“Washington threatened to use any means to seize Iraqi assets if we do not support the security pact,” Marsadiraq quoted Talabani as saying.
Washington currently seeks to sign a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with Baghdad to give legal basis to its military and political presence in oil-rich Iraq after a UN mandate defining its status expires on December 31.
October 4, 2008 at 8:43 AM #280976ArrayaParticipantWhat does it mean if you “cant maintain government operations?
“Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis,” Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter Thursday evening e-mailed to Paulson, “California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the federal treasury for short-term financing.”
Well at least all is well in Iraq
http://www.mathaba.net/0_index.shtml?x=607822
Upon arrival in Iraq from Washington, President Jalal Talabani told reporters that he is concerned over Washington threats.
“Washington threatened to use any means to seize Iraqi assets if we do not support the security pact,” Marsadiraq quoted Talabani as saying.
Washington currently seeks to sign a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with Baghdad to give legal basis to its military and political presence in oil-rich Iraq after a UN mandate defining its status expires on December 31.
October 9, 2008 at 9:31 PM #284735partypupParticipant“October 7th was three weeks after this post. I’d say good call so far.”
Yes… it is eerie, Arraya. Although the cascading crash is much more dramatic than even I expected. Everyone is asking, “When will the bottom come?” The same sources that told me the first week of October would be a watershed have also told me that the Dow will hit 3,500 and martial law, in some form, will occur by January 2009, with food and gas shortages to occur around the same time, if not before.
Folks, this is not a drill. Chaos is truly right around the corner. If you believe the *system* can withstand 300-600 point drops in the Dow on a daily basis, you’re fooling yourself. At a certain point, the foundation will give way and chaos WILL erupt. It is only now a matter of time.
I have been in Colorado for the past week, scouting land for a possible escape in the next 6-9 months. The folks out there have been expecting a collapse — or something like it — for the past decade, as far as I can tell. Many, if not most, are self-sustaining and will fare relatively well in the coming catastrophe: many communities are difficult to access and have small populations.
The same cannot be said for those who are living in Southern California and places like it.
This time next year, the primary concern for most of the U.S. population will not be their 401Ks, but rather (a) how to secure food on a reliable basis and (b) how to keep others from taking what belongs to you.
Please take my advice and begin to stock up on food and other essentials so that you will be able to weather the storm when it first hits. Don’t be a casualty in the first wave; live to stand and fight another day.
On another note: my broker at Fidelitrade, from whom I have been buying metals for the past two and a half years, informed me last week that his clients were now limited to purchasing 500 ounces of silver PER ACCOUNT, not per transaction,
However, today he informed me that he cannot buy any silver, gold or palladium, whatsoever — although he has a contact at CitiGroup who claims to be able to buy silver for $40/oz. This jibes with what a colleague told me today: he can’t find any gold or silver for sale at APMEX, and gold on eBay is going for $100+ over spot.
I don’t know what TPTB are doing to manipulate metals prices, but the laws of supply and demand do not lie. And when someone goes to such extreme lengths to deceive regarding the market price of any product, you’d best believe there is an agenda. I don’t trust stocks. I don’t trust bonds. I don’t trust Euros. I no longer trust Swiss Francs. And I most certainly don’t trust USD cash money.
I trust no paper from this point on.
The only thing I trust are metals — the very things that are almost impossible to obtain in quantity now.
October 9, 2008 at 9:31 PM #285025partypupParticipant“October 7th was three weeks after this post. I’d say good call so far.”
Yes… it is eerie, Arraya. Although the cascading crash is much more dramatic than even I expected. Everyone is asking, “When will the bottom come?” The same sources that told me the first week of October would be a watershed have also told me that the Dow will hit 3,500 and martial law, in some form, will occur by January 2009, with food and gas shortages to occur around the same time, if not before.
Folks, this is not a drill. Chaos is truly right around the corner. If you believe the *system* can withstand 300-600 point drops in the Dow on a daily basis, you’re fooling yourself. At a certain point, the foundation will give way and chaos WILL erupt. It is only now a matter of time.
I have been in Colorado for the past week, scouting land for a possible escape in the next 6-9 months. The folks out there have been expecting a collapse — or something like it — for the past decade, as far as I can tell. Many, if not most, are self-sustaining and will fare relatively well in the coming catastrophe: many communities are difficult to access and have small populations.
The same cannot be said for those who are living in Southern California and places like it.
This time next year, the primary concern for most of the U.S. population will not be their 401Ks, but rather (a) how to secure food on a reliable basis and (b) how to keep others from taking what belongs to you.
Please take my advice and begin to stock up on food and other essentials so that you will be able to weather the storm when it first hits. Don’t be a casualty in the first wave; live to stand and fight another day.
On another note: my broker at Fidelitrade, from whom I have been buying metals for the past two and a half years, informed me last week that his clients were now limited to purchasing 500 ounces of silver PER ACCOUNT, not per transaction,
However, today he informed me that he cannot buy any silver, gold or palladium, whatsoever — although he has a contact at CitiGroup who claims to be able to buy silver for $40/oz. This jibes with what a colleague told me today: he can’t find any gold or silver for sale at APMEX, and gold on eBay is going for $100+ over spot.
I don’t know what TPTB are doing to manipulate metals prices, but the laws of supply and demand do not lie. And when someone goes to such extreme lengths to deceive regarding the market price of any product, you’d best believe there is an agenda. I don’t trust stocks. I don’t trust bonds. I don’t trust Euros. I no longer trust Swiss Francs. And I most certainly don’t trust USD cash money.
I trust no paper from this point on.
The only thing I trust are metals — the very things that are almost impossible to obtain in quantity now.
October 9, 2008 at 9:31 PM #285046partypupParticipant“October 7th was three weeks after this post. I’d say good call so far.”
Yes… it is eerie, Arraya. Although the cascading crash is much more dramatic than even I expected. Everyone is asking, “When will the bottom come?” The same sources that told me the first week of October would be a watershed have also told me that the Dow will hit 3,500 and martial law, in some form, will occur by January 2009, with food and gas shortages to occur around the same time, if not before.
Folks, this is not a drill. Chaos is truly right around the corner. If you believe the *system* can withstand 300-600 point drops in the Dow on a daily basis, you’re fooling yourself. At a certain point, the foundation will give way and chaos WILL erupt. It is only now a matter of time.
I have been in Colorado for the past week, scouting land for a possible escape in the next 6-9 months. The folks out there have been expecting a collapse — or something like it — for the past decade, as far as I can tell. Many, if not most, are self-sustaining and will fare relatively well in the coming catastrophe: many communities are difficult to access and have small populations.
The same cannot be said for those who are living in Southern California and places like it.
This time next year, the primary concern for most of the U.S. population will not be their 401Ks, but rather (a) how to secure food on a reliable basis and (b) how to keep others from taking what belongs to you.
Please take my advice and begin to stock up on food and other essentials so that you will be able to weather the storm when it first hits. Don’t be a casualty in the first wave; live to stand and fight another day.
On another note: my broker at Fidelitrade, from whom I have been buying metals for the past two and a half years, informed me last week that his clients were now limited to purchasing 500 ounces of silver PER ACCOUNT, not per transaction,
However, today he informed me that he cannot buy any silver, gold or palladium, whatsoever — although he has a contact at CitiGroup who claims to be able to buy silver for $40/oz. This jibes with what a colleague told me today: he can’t find any gold or silver for sale at APMEX, and gold on eBay is going for $100+ over spot.
I don’t know what TPTB are doing to manipulate metals prices, but the laws of supply and demand do not lie. And when someone goes to such extreme lengths to deceive regarding the market price of any product, you’d best believe there is an agenda. I don’t trust stocks. I don’t trust bonds. I don’t trust Euros. I no longer trust Swiss Francs. And I most certainly don’t trust USD cash money.
I trust no paper from this point on.
The only thing I trust are metals — the very things that are almost impossible to obtain in quantity now.
October 9, 2008 at 9:31 PM #285068partypupParticipant“October 7th was three weeks after this post. I’d say good call so far.”
Yes… it is eerie, Arraya. Although the cascading crash is much more dramatic than even I expected. Everyone is asking, “When will the bottom come?” The same sources that told me the first week of October would be a watershed have also told me that the Dow will hit 3,500 and martial law, in some form, will occur by January 2009, with food and gas shortages to occur around the same time, if not before.
Folks, this is not a drill. Chaos is truly right around the corner. If you believe the *system* can withstand 300-600 point drops in the Dow on a daily basis, you’re fooling yourself. At a certain point, the foundation will give way and chaos WILL erupt. It is only now a matter of time.
I have been in Colorado for the past week, scouting land for a possible escape in the next 6-9 months. The folks out there have been expecting a collapse — or something like it — for the past decade, as far as I can tell. Many, if not most, are self-sustaining and will fare relatively well in the coming catastrophe: many communities are difficult to access and have small populations.
The same cannot be said for those who are living in Southern California and places like it.
This time next year, the primary concern for most of the U.S. population will not be their 401Ks, but rather (a) how to secure food on a reliable basis and (b) how to keep others from taking what belongs to you.
Please take my advice and begin to stock up on food and other essentials so that you will be able to weather the storm when it first hits. Don’t be a casualty in the first wave; live to stand and fight another day.
On another note: my broker at Fidelitrade, from whom I have been buying metals for the past two and a half years, informed me last week that his clients were now limited to purchasing 500 ounces of silver PER ACCOUNT, not per transaction,
However, today he informed me that he cannot buy any silver, gold or palladium, whatsoever — although he has a contact at CitiGroup who claims to be able to buy silver for $40/oz. This jibes with what a colleague told me today: he can’t find any gold or silver for sale at APMEX, and gold on eBay is going for $100+ over spot.
I don’t know what TPTB are doing to manipulate metals prices, but the laws of supply and demand do not lie. And when someone goes to such extreme lengths to deceive regarding the market price of any product, you’d best believe there is an agenda. I don’t trust stocks. I don’t trust bonds. I don’t trust Euros. I no longer trust Swiss Francs. And I most certainly don’t trust USD cash money.
I trust no paper from this point on.
The only thing I trust are metals — the very things that are almost impossible to obtain in quantity now.
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