OT: Anyone doing vegtable gardens… what’s in your garden.

[eavesdropper]

[quote=briansd1]
Gardening in Southern California is different from other places. You need to prepare the soil in advance of planting. [/quote]

Brian, I’ve lived in at least 10 different states in a wide variety of regions. I had to prepare the soil in every one of them. I’ve had friends in some places who claimed that they didn’t have to, and three months later they were complaining about the quality of their produce, or the lack of late summer blooms on their flowering plants.

[quote=briansd1] I do think that gardening is a lost art. People find it easier to to go the supermarket. [/quote]

That is true. But I also think that there’s a large number of Americans who don’t incorporate fruits and vegetables in their diets.

It can be extraordinarily time-consuming. Also, it is very labor-intensive, and people seem to be less willing to do it here in the east because we don’t have the growing season y’all do in CA.

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=flu]
I want to try grapes,but I doubt it would work in Carmel Valley climate…I think I’ll need to move to Santee for that 🙂 [/quote]

flu – I am in Bay Park and I’ve got Himrod grapes growing in a big bucket. It is bearing fruit (5 bunches). When I had my house in Carmel Valley, I transplanted my grape from my previous house (much warmer climate) and was able to grow my grape plant, but it did not bear fruit. But I did not really take proper care of the soil and fertilize it enough.

I think if you try the grapes and give it proper care, you can do it in Carmel Valley. Heck, even my Cabernet grape is growing. Just too young to bear any fruit.[/quote]

Oh, really? I gotta try this then…

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=flu]
I want to try grapes,but I doubt it would work in Carmel Valley climate…I think I’ll need to move to Santee for that 🙂 [/quote]

flu – I am in Bay Park and I’ve got Himrod grapes growing in a big bucket. It is bearing fruit (5 bunches). When I had my house in Carmel Valley, I transplanted my grape from my previous house (much warmer climate) and was able to grow my grape plant, but it did not bear fruit. But I did not really take proper care of the soil and fertilize it enough.

I think if you try the grapes and give it proper care, you can do it in Carmel Valley. Heck, even my Cabernet grape is growing. Just too young to bear any fruit.[/quote]

Oh, really? I gotta try this then…

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=flu]
I want to try grapes,but I doubt it would work in Carmel Valley climate…I think I’ll need to move to Santee for that 🙂 [/quote]

flu – I am in Bay Park and I’ve got Himrod grapes growing in a big bucket. It is bearing fruit (5 bunches). When I had my house in Carmel Valley, I transplanted my grape from my previous house (much warmer climate) and was able to grow my grape plant, but it did not bear fruit. But I did not really take proper care of the soil and fertilize it enough.

I think if you try the grapes and give it proper care, you can do it in Carmel Valley. Heck, even my Cabernet grape is growing. Just too young to bear any fruit.[/quote]

Oh, really? I gotta try this then…

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=flu]
I want to try grapes,but I doubt it would work in Carmel Valley climate…I think I’ll need to move to Santee for that 🙂 [/quote]

flu – I am in Bay Park and I’ve got Himrod grapes growing in a big bucket. It is bearing fruit (5 bunches). When I had my house in Carmel Valley, I transplanted my grape from my previous house (much warmer climate) and was able to grow my grape plant, but it did not bear fruit. But I did not really take proper care of the soil and fertilize it enough.

I think if you try the grapes and give it proper care, you can do it in Carmel Valley. Heck, even my Cabernet grape is growing. Just too young to bear any fruit.[/quote]

Oh, really? I gotta try this then…

[Coronita]

[quote=jpinpb][quote=flu]
I want to try grapes,but I doubt it would work in Carmel Valley climate…I think I’ll need to move to Santee for that 🙂 [/quote]

flu – I am in Bay Park and I’ve got Himrod grapes growing in a big bucket. It is bearing fruit (5 bunches). When I had my house in Carmel Valley, I transplanted my grape from my previous house (much warmer climate) and was able to grow my grape plant, but it did not bear fruit. But I did not really take proper care of the soil and fertilize it enough.

I think if you try the grapes and give it proper care, you can do it in Carmel Valley. Heck, even my Cabernet grape is growing. Just too young to bear any fruit.[/quote]

Oh, really? I gotta try this then…

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper]UCGal, you have succeeded admirably in making me feel both hungry and inadequate. However, I’ll get over it (the feeling of inadequacy, anyway), and enthusiastically applaud you. I am soooo impressed!

I don’t like gardening, but I engage in it because I like the results. Last summer, I turned about 200 square feet of concrete-hard rural Virginia pastureland into a perennial garden surrounding the porch of our house there. The ground is so hard that you need a full-size farm tractor to turn the earth and break it up (most of it is solid clay) – a rototiller can’t begin to do the job. Unfortunately, a full-size farm tractor can’t get close enough to the house, so it involved several weeks of really intense labor (sending my bulging spinal discs into full ruptured status), lots of mud, and the likelihood of future skin cancer.

However, I had almost instant gratification. The plants I put in grew and bloomed rapidly, and really made a difference. We can sit on the porch, in view of the Blue Ridge, and watch the visiting butterflies and hummingbirds. The best part is that they all came back this year, much larger than last, and I didn’t have to lift a finger.

Once I’m down there full-time, I hope to expand into vegetable and fruit
gardening. We have decent acreage, so we won’t have to evict the cows. However, if they ever legalize pot, all bets are off. I’m not hopeful that Social Security will be around to help with expenses, so I will have to use my assets wisely.[/quote]

LOL, eavesdropper, I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.

I’m not a pot user but have considered trying to get a pot-growing license, for medicinal use, to supplement my income. Given our current powers-that-be, I’m probably located in the wrong county for that – LOL!!

I’m not counting on SS either, and am most likely in your same demographic. It’s sad, because we’ve already put so much $$ into SS on our own behalf!!

Your environment sounds bucolic to me!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper]UCGal, you have succeeded admirably in making me feel both hungry and inadequate. However, I’ll get over it (the feeling of inadequacy, anyway), and enthusiastically applaud you. I am soooo impressed!

I don’t like gardening, but I engage in it because I like the results. Last summer, I turned about 200 square feet of concrete-hard rural Virginia pastureland into a perennial garden surrounding the porch of our house there. The ground is so hard that you need a full-size farm tractor to turn the earth and break it up (most of it is solid clay) – a rototiller can’t begin to do the job. Unfortunately, a full-size farm tractor can’t get close enough to the house, so it involved several weeks of really intense labor (sending my bulging spinal discs into full ruptured status), lots of mud, and the likelihood of future skin cancer.

However, I had almost instant gratification. The plants I put in grew and bloomed rapidly, and really made a difference. We can sit on the porch, in view of the Blue Ridge, and watch the visiting butterflies and hummingbirds. The best part is that they all came back this year, much larger than last, and I didn’t have to lift a finger.

Once I’m down there full-time, I hope to expand into vegetable and fruit
gardening. We have decent acreage, so we won’t have to evict the cows. However, if they ever legalize pot, all bets are off. I’m not hopeful that Social Security will be around to help with expenses, so I will have to use my assets wisely.[/quote]

LOL, eavesdropper, I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.

I’m not a pot user but have considered trying to get a pot-growing license, for medicinal use, to supplement my income. Given our current powers-that-be, I’m probably located in the wrong county for that – LOL!!

I’m not counting on SS either, and am most likely in your same demographic. It’s sad, because we’ve already put so much $$ into SS on our own behalf!!

Your environment sounds bucolic to me!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper]UCGal, you have succeeded admirably in making me feel both hungry and inadequate. However, I’ll get over it (the feeling of inadequacy, anyway), and enthusiastically applaud you. I am soooo impressed!

I don’t like gardening, but I engage in it because I like the results. Last summer, I turned about 200 square feet of concrete-hard rural Virginia pastureland into a perennial garden surrounding the porch of our house there. The ground is so hard that you need a full-size farm tractor to turn the earth and break it up (most of it is solid clay) – a rototiller can’t begin to do the job. Unfortunately, a full-size farm tractor can’t get close enough to the house, so it involved several weeks of really intense labor (sending my bulging spinal discs into full ruptured status), lots of mud, and the likelihood of future skin cancer.

However, I had almost instant gratification. The plants I put in grew and bloomed rapidly, and really made a difference. We can sit on the porch, in view of the Blue Ridge, and watch the visiting butterflies and hummingbirds. The best part is that they all came back this year, much larger than last, and I didn’t have to lift a finger.

Once I’m down there full-time, I hope to expand into vegetable and fruit
gardening. We have decent acreage, so we won’t have to evict the cows. However, if they ever legalize pot, all bets are off. I’m not hopeful that Social Security will be around to help with expenses, so I will have to use my assets wisely.[/quote]

LOL, eavesdropper, I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.

I’m not a pot user but have considered trying to get a pot-growing license, for medicinal use, to supplement my income. Given our current powers-that-be, I’m probably located in the wrong county for that – LOL!!

I’m not counting on SS either, and am most likely in your same demographic. It’s sad, because we’ve already put so much $$ into SS on our own behalf!!

Your environment sounds bucolic to me!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper]UCGal, you have succeeded admirably in making me feel both hungry and inadequate. However, I’ll get over it (the feeling of inadequacy, anyway), and enthusiastically applaud you. I am soooo impressed!

I don’t like gardening, but I engage in it because I like the results. Last summer, I turned about 200 square feet of concrete-hard rural Virginia pastureland into a perennial garden surrounding the porch of our house there. The ground is so hard that you need a full-size farm tractor to turn the earth and break it up (most of it is solid clay) – a rototiller can’t begin to do the job. Unfortunately, a full-size farm tractor can’t get close enough to the house, so it involved several weeks of really intense labor (sending my bulging spinal discs into full ruptured status), lots of mud, and the likelihood of future skin cancer.

However, I had almost instant gratification. The plants I put in grew and bloomed rapidly, and really made a difference. We can sit on the porch, in view of the Blue Ridge, and watch the visiting butterflies and hummingbirds. The best part is that they all came back this year, much larger than last, and I didn’t have to lift a finger.

Once I’m down there full-time, I hope to expand into vegetable and fruit
gardening. We have decent acreage, so we won’t have to evict the cows. However, if they ever legalize pot, all bets are off. I’m not hopeful that Social Security will be around to help with expenses, so I will have to use my assets wisely.[/quote]

LOL, eavesdropper, I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.

I’m not a pot user but have considered trying to get a pot-growing license, for medicinal use, to supplement my income. Given our current powers-that-be, I’m probably located in the wrong county for that – LOL!!

I’m not counting on SS either, and am most likely in your same demographic. It’s sad, because we’ve already put so much $$ into SS on our own behalf!!

Your environment sounds bucolic to me!

[bearishgurl]

[quote=eavesdropper]UCGal, you have succeeded admirably in making me feel both hungry and inadequate. However, I’ll get over it (the feeling of inadequacy, anyway), and enthusiastically applaud you. I am soooo impressed!

I don’t like gardening, but I engage in it because I like the results. Last summer, I turned about 200 square feet of concrete-hard rural Virginia pastureland into a perennial garden surrounding the porch of our house there. The ground is so hard that you need a full-size farm tractor to turn the earth and break it up (most of it is solid clay) – a rototiller can’t begin to do the job. Unfortunately, a full-size farm tractor can’t get close enough to the house, so it involved several weeks of really intense labor (sending my bulging spinal discs into full ruptured status), lots of mud, and the likelihood of future skin cancer.

However, I had almost instant gratification. The plants I put in grew and bloomed rapidly, and really made a difference. We can sit on the porch, in view of the Blue Ridge, and watch the visiting butterflies and hummingbirds. The best part is that they all came back this year, much larger than last, and I didn’t have to lift a finger.

Once I’m down there full-time, I hope to expand into vegetable and fruit
gardening. We have decent acreage, so we won’t have to evict the cows. However, if they ever legalize pot, all bets are off. I’m not hopeful that Social Security will be around to help with expenses, so I will have to use my assets wisely.[/quote]

LOL, eavesdropper, I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.

I’m not a pot user but have considered trying to get a pot-growing license, for medicinal use, to supplement my income. Given our current powers-that-be, I’m probably located in the wrong county for that – LOL!!

I’m not counting on SS either, and am most likely in your same demographic. It’s sad, because we’ve already put so much $$ into SS on our own behalf!!

Your environment sounds bucolic to me!

[Eugene]

[quote]I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.[/quote]

How did you manage to find clay in San Diego?

[Eugene]

[quote]I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.[/quote]

How did you manage to find clay in San Diego?

[Eugene]

[quote]I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.[/quote]

How did you manage to find clay in San Diego?

[Eugene]

[quote]I, too, have been attempting to break up hard clay today, with #50 sunscreen on and aggravating my carpal tunnel syndrome in effort to plant more water-storing succulents.[/quote]

How did you manage to find clay in San Diego?

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