OT: any volunteers for votetheincumbentsout.org?

[Coronita]

…and Dear Fed,

Please tell me how I can tap into those low interest business loan that will be subsidized by our taxpayers you’re proposing…Because, if I can’t beat the system, please let me join it 🙂

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081007/fed_credit_crisis.html

Fed eyes plan to fund short-term business loans
WASHINGTON (AP) — The government is weighing a bold plan to buy massive amounts of unsecured short-term debts in a dramatic effort to break through a credit clog that is imperiling the economy.

The Federal Reserve is working with the Treasury Department on the plan to buy “commercial paper,” a short-term financing mechanism that many companies rely on to finance their day-to-day operations, such as purchasing supplies or making payrolls, according to a person with knowledge of the plan. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the plan is still being put together.

[DWCAP]

[quote=justme]Let me try again,

To everyone who is on a tear about “voting against the incumbents”, please stop for a moment and think about what that really means:

1. you will be voting for the Republicans to take over congress.

2. you will be voting against Obama for president if you vote “independent”

Just do the math. Since the Democrats have a majority among the incumbents, you are in effect voting Republican. Is that really what you want to do?

One thing is to vote against the incumbents in a PRIMARY (nominational) election, but it is something different to vote against the incumbents in the GENERAL (real) election.

[/quote]

Right, once again, you shouldnt question who to vote for because everyone knows that Democrats are angelic saviors of the human race and Republicans are devilishly crude robber barons who are only out to inpregnate your teenage daughters and then deny them abortions and force you into perminate servitude working on their Cotton plantations. Especially when they vote the exact same way on the exact same bills as the Democrats did.
Wake up people! You might actually vote for someone who doesnt SUCK!
Why do you think republicans are highlighted in red? Because it is the color of the Devil! DUHHH!

[DWCAP]

[quote=justme]Let me try again,

To everyone who is on a tear about “voting against the incumbents”, please stop for a moment and think about what that really means:

1. you will be voting for the Republicans to take over congress.

2. you will be voting against Obama for president if you vote “independent”

Just do the math. Since the Democrats have a majority among the incumbents, you are in effect voting Republican. Is that really what you want to do?

One thing is to vote against the incumbents in a PRIMARY (nominational) election, but it is something different to vote against the incumbents in the GENERAL (real) election.

[/quote]

Right, once again, you shouldnt question who to vote for because everyone knows that Democrats are angelic saviors of the human race and Republicans are devilishly crude robber barons who are only out to inpregnate your teenage daughters and then deny them abortions and force you into perminate servitude working on their Cotton plantations. Especially when they vote the exact same way on the exact same bills as the Democrats did.
Wake up people! You might actually vote for someone who doesnt SUCK!
Why do you think republicans are highlighted in red? Because it is the color of the Devil! DUHHH!

[DWCAP]

[quote=justme]Let me try again,

To everyone who is on a tear about “voting against the incumbents”, please stop for a moment and think about what that really means:

1. you will be voting for the Republicans to take over congress.

2. you will be voting against Obama for president if you vote “independent”

Just do the math. Since the Democrats have a majority among the incumbents, you are in effect voting Republican. Is that really what you want to do?

One thing is to vote against the incumbents in a PRIMARY (nominational) election, but it is something different to vote against the incumbents in the GENERAL (real) election.

[/quote]

Right, once again, you shouldnt question who to vote for because everyone knows that Democrats are angelic saviors of the human race and Republicans are devilishly crude robber barons who are only out to inpregnate your teenage daughters and then deny them abortions and force you into perminate servitude working on their Cotton plantations. Especially when they vote the exact same way on the exact same bills as the Democrats did.
Wake up people! You might actually vote for someone who doesnt SUCK!
Why do you think republicans are highlighted in red? Because it is the color of the Devil! DUHHH!

[DWCAP]

[quote=justme]Let me try again,

To everyone who is on a tear about “voting against the incumbents”, please stop for a moment and think about what that really means:

1. you will be voting for the Republicans to take over congress.

2. you will be voting against Obama for president if you vote “independent”

Just do the math. Since the Democrats have a majority among the incumbents, you are in effect voting Republican. Is that really what you want to do?

One thing is to vote against the incumbents in a PRIMARY (nominational) election, but it is something different to vote against the incumbents in the GENERAL (real) election.

[/quote]

Right, once again, you shouldnt question who to vote for because everyone knows that Democrats are angelic saviors of the human race and Republicans are devilishly crude robber barons who are only out to inpregnate your teenage daughters and then deny them abortions and force you into perminate servitude working on their Cotton plantations. Especially when they vote the exact same way on the exact same bills as the Democrats did.
Wake up people! You might actually vote for someone who doesnt SUCK!
Why do you think republicans are highlighted in red? Because it is the color of the Devil! DUHHH!

[DWCAP]

[quote=justme]Let me try again,

To everyone who is on a tear about “voting against the incumbents”, please stop for a moment and think about what that really means:

1. you will be voting for the Republicans to take over congress.

2. you will be voting against Obama for president if you vote “independent”

Just do the math. Since the Democrats have a majority among the incumbents, you are in effect voting Republican. Is that really what you want to do?

One thing is to vote against the incumbents in a PRIMARY (nominational) election, but it is something different to vote against the incumbents in the GENERAL (real) election.

[/quote]

Right, once again, you shouldnt question who to vote for because everyone knows that Democrats are angelic saviors of the human race and Republicans are devilishly crude robber barons who are only out to inpregnate your teenage daughters and then deny them abortions and force you into perminate servitude working on their Cotton plantations. Especially when they vote the exact same way on the exact same bills as the Democrats did.
Wake up people! You might actually vote for someone who doesnt SUCK!
Why do you think republicans are highlighted in red? Because it is the color of the Devil! DUHHH!

[justme]

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]

So, if a republican does something wrong, they should be thrown out. But if a democrat does something wrong, we should ignore it? I thought the point of voting out the incumbents that voted for the bill was to toss out the cancer, irrespective of party affiliation.

[/quote]

I never said that, you are putting words in my mouth.

You may think that “voting out the incumbents who voted for the (bailout) bill” is the point. But then your are turning this into a single-issue election called the “bailout bill”, and the Republicans are USING you to their advantage.

Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.

Such people are trying to confuse the issue. The truth is that if it was not for the republican deregulation push of the last 28 years, no bailout would be needed in the first place.

The correct principle is that people should vote for who they believe stands for the best principles of government, and should NOT vote based on some trumped-up single-issue litmus test concocted by an opportunist political strategist.

And by the way, the republicans have done plenty of wrong, and on a much grander scale than any democrat of the last 28 years.

Don’t cast your vote based on an impulsive desire to punish someone for voting for something that you despise. I am also against the bailout bill, but no way will that make me vote against a democrat.

Look at the big picture.

[justme]

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]

So, if a republican does something wrong, they should be thrown out. But if a democrat does something wrong, we should ignore it? I thought the point of voting out the incumbents that voted for the bill was to toss out the cancer, irrespective of party affiliation.

[/quote]

I never said that, you are putting words in my mouth.

You may think that “voting out the incumbents who voted for the (bailout) bill” is the point. But then your are turning this into a single-issue election called the “bailout bill”, and the Republicans are USING you to their advantage.

Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.

Such people are trying to confuse the issue. The truth is that if it was not for the republican deregulation push of the last 28 years, no bailout would be needed in the first place.

The correct principle is that people should vote for who they believe stands for the best principles of government, and should NOT vote based on some trumped-up single-issue litmus test concocted by an opportunist political strategist.

And by the way, the republicans have done plenty of wrong, and on a much grander scale than any democrat of the last 28 years.

Don’t cast your vote based on an impulsive desire to punish someone for voting for something that you despise. I am also against the bailout bill, but no way will that make me vote against a democrat.

Look at the big picture.

[justme]

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]

So, if a republican does something wrong, they should be thrown out. But if a democrat does something wrong, we should ignore it? I thought the point of voting out the incumbents that voted for the bill was to toss out the cancer, irrespective of party affiliation.

[/quote]

I never said that, you are putting words in my mouth.

You may think that “voting out the incumbents who voted for the (bailout) bill” is the point. But then your are turning this into a single-issue election called the “bailout bill”, and the Republicans are USING you to their advantage.

Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.

Such people are trying to confuse the issue. The truth is that if it was not for the republican deregulation push of the last 28 years, no bailout would be needed in the first place.

The correct principle is that people should vote for who they believe stands for the best principles of government, and should NOT vote based on some trumped-up single-issue litmus test concocted by an opportunist political strategist.

And by the way, the republicans have done plenty of wrong, and on a much grander scale than any democrat of the last 28 years.

Don’t cast your vote based on an impulsive desire to punish someone for voting for something that you despise. I am also against the bailout bill, but no way will that make me vote against a democrat.

Look at the big picture.

[justme]

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]

So, if a republican does something wrong, they should be thrown out. But if a democrat does something wrong, we should ignore it? I thought the point of voting out the incumbents that voted for the bill was to toss out the cancer, irrespective of party affiliation.

[/quote]

I never said that, you are putting words in my mouth.

You may think that “voting out the incumbents who voted for the (bailout) bill” is the point. But then your are turning this into a single-issue election called the “bailout bill”, and the Republicans are USING you to their advantage.

Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.

Such people are trying to confuse the issue. The truth is that if it was not for the republican deregulation push of the last 28 years, no bailout would be needed in the first place.

The correct principle is that people should vote for who they believe stands for the best principles of government, and should NOT vote based on some trumped-up single-issue litmus test concocted by an opportunist political strategist.

And by the way, the republicans have done plenty of wrong, and on a much grander scale than any democrat of the last 28 years.

Don’t cast your vote based on an impulsive desire to punish someone for voting for something that you despise. I am also against the bailout bill, but no way will that make me vote against a democrat.

Look at the big picture.

[justme]

[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker]

So, if a republican does something wrong, they should be thrown out. But if a democrat does something wrong, we should ignore it? I thought the point of voting out the incumbents that voted for the bill was to toss out the cancer, irrespective of party affiliation.

[/quote]

I never said that, you are putting words in my mouth.

You may think that “voting out the incumbents who voted for the (bailout) bill” is the point. But then your are turning this into a single-issue election called the “bailout bill”, and the Republicans are USING you to their advantage.

Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.

Such people are trying to confuse the issue. The truth is that if it was not for the republican deregulation push of the last 28 years, no bailout would be needed in the first place.

The correct principle is that people should vote for who they believe stands for the best principles of government, and should NOT vote based on some trumped-up single-issue litmus test concocted by an opportunist political strategist.

And by the way, the republicans have done plenty of wrong, and on a much grander scale than any democrat of the last 28 years.

Don’t cast your vote based on an impulsive desire to punish someone for voting for something that you despise. I am also against the bailout bill, but no way will that make me vote against a democrat.

Look at the big picture.

[meadandale]

[quote=justme]
Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.[/quote]

I’m not sure how you can say that voting out the incumbants is a vote for Republicans. I’ve personally vowed, as a conservative, to vote against any incumbant REGARDLESS OF PARTY AFFILIATION. If my local representative is a Republican and voted for the bailout, I’m voting against them.

The fact that YOUR party (which is obviously Democrat) voted in higher numbers for the bailout than the Republicans is YOUR problem, not mine. It doesn’t sound like they have YOUR best interests in mind. I applaud the Republicans that rose up against Bush and this ill conceived bailout and tried to defeat it…twice. Unfortunately, some were weak and capitulated once the Democrats put some pork in the bill that appealed to them. The $700 billion bailout was closer to a trillion once you add up all the pork.

And, you’re goddamn right this is a single issue election. These people are criminally negligent for a) allowing this crash to happen due to lack of oversight and b) rewarding the architects of the crash with a cash bailout. In the old days, we’d storm the capital with pitch forks, torches and rope. Now we have just our vote.

[meadandale]

[quote=justme]
Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.[/quote]

I’m not sure how you can say that voting out the incumbants is a vote for Republicans. I’ve personally vowed, as a conservative, to vote against any incumbant REGARDLESS OF PARTY AFFILIATION. If my local representative is a Republican and voted for the bailout, I’m voting against them.

The fact that YOUR party (which is obviously Democrat) voted in higher numbers for the bailout than the Republicans is YOUR problem, not mine. It doesn’t sound like they have YOUR best interests in mind. I applaud the Republicans that rose up against Bush and this ill conceived bailout and tried to defeat it…twice. Unfortunately, some were weak and capitulated once the Democrats put some pork in the bill that appealed to them. The $700 billion bailout was closer to a trillion once you add up all the pork.

And, you’re goddamn right this is a single issue election. These people are criminally negligent for a) allowing this crash to happen due to lack of oversight and b) rewarding the architects of the crash with a cash bailout. In the old days, we’d storm the capital with pitch forks, torches and rope. Now we have just our vote.

[meadandale]

[quote=justme]
Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.[/quote]

I’m not sure how you can say that voting out the incumbants is a vote for Republicans. I’ve personally vowed, as a conservative, to vote against any incumbant REGARDLESS OF PARTY AFFILIATION. If my local representative is a Republican and voted for the bailout, I’m voting against them.

The fact that YOUR party (which is obviously Democrat) voted in higher numbers for the bailout than the Republicans is YOUR problem, not mine. It doesn’t sound like they have YOUR best interests in mind. I applaud the Republicans that rose up against Bush and this ill conceived bailout and tried to defeat it…twice. Unfortunately, some were weak and capitulated once the Democrats put some pork in the bill that appealed to them. The $700 billion bailout was closer to a trillion once you add up all the pork.

And, you’re goddamn right this is a single issue election. These people are criminally negligent for a) allowing this crash to happen due to lack of oversight and b) rewarding the architects of the crash with a cash bailout. In the old days, we’d storm the capital with pitch forks, torches and rope. Now we have just our vote.

[meadandale]

[quote=justme]
Those who want people to vote Republican should just come out and say it. They should stop wrapping themselves in some single-issue flag which effectively means “you must vote republican because more democrats than republicans voted for the bailout bill”.[/quote]

I’m not sure how you can say that voting out the incumbants is a vote for Republicans. I’ve personally vowed, as a conservative, to vote against any incumbant REGARDLESS OF PARTY AFFILIATION. If my local representative is a Republican and voted for the bailout, I’m voting against them.

The fact that YOUR party (which is obviously Democrat) voted in higher numbers for the bailout than the Republicans is YOUR problem, not mine. It doesn’t sound like they have YOUR best interests in mind. I applaud the Republicans that rose up against Bush and this ill conceived bailout and tried to defeat it…twice. Unfortunately, some were weak and capitulated once the Democrats put some pork in the bill that appealed to them. The $700 billion bailout was closer to a trillion once you add up all the pork.

And, you’re goddamn right this is a single issue election. These people are criminally negligent for a) allowing this crash to happen due to lack of oversight and b) rewarding the architects of the crash with a cash bailout. In the old days, we’d storm the capital with pitch forks, torches and rope. Now we have just our vote.

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