OT: any volunteers for votetheincumbentsout.org?

[mercedes7]

I am in. Just tell me what I can do.

Greekfire, very good point. Do you have a contact at voterbomb or dailypaul?

[CA renter]

Some people on FedUpUSA are trying to do this as well.

Here is one of the posts (see petition to recal…):

http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?forum=FedUp

Here is one of the PROBLEMS with trying to recall a legislator:

Constitutional History.
The United States Constitution does not provide for nor authorize the recall of
United States officials such as United States Senators, Representatives to Congress,
or the President or Vice President of the United States, and thus no United States
Senator or Member of the House of Representatives has ever been recalled in the
history of the United States. As early as 1807, a Senate Committee examining the
question of the Senate’s duty and broad authority to expel a Member, noted that such
duty devolves to the Senate not only because of the express constitutional grant of
authority, but also as a practical matter because the Constitution does not allow for
a “recall” of elected Members of Congress by the people or the State. The
Committee noted specifically that the Constitution had set out numerous provisions,
qualifications and requirements for Members of Congress to prevent conflicts of
interest and to assure a certain degree of fealty to constituents, but did not give a
Member’s constituency the authority to recall such a Member:
The spirit of the Constitution is, perhaps, in no respect more remarkable
than in the solicitude which it has manifested to secure the purity of the
Legislature by that of the elements of its composition …. Yet, in the midst of all
this anxious providence of legislative virtue, it has not authorized the constituent
body to recall in any case its representative.22

http://lugar.senate.gov/services/pdf_crs/Recall_of_Legislators_and_the_Removal_of_Members_of_Congress_from_Office.pdf

[CA renter]

Some people on FedUpUSA are trying to do this as well.

Here is one of the posts (see petition to recal…):

http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?forum=FedUp

Here is one of the PROBLEMS with trying to recall a legislator:

Constitutional History.
The United States Constitution does not provide for nor authorize the recall of
United States officials such as United States Senators, Representatives to Congress,
or the President or Vice President of the United States, and thus no United States
Senator or Member of the House of Representatives has ever been recalled in the
history of the United States. As early as 1807, a Senate Committee examining the
question of the Senate’s duty and broad authority to expel a Member, noted that such
duty devolves to the Senate not only because of the express constitutional grant of
authority, but also as a practical matter because the Constitution does not allow for
a “recall” of elected Members of Congress by the people or the State. The
Committee noted specifically that the Constitution had set out numerous provisions,
qualifications and requirements for Members of Congress to prevent conflicts of
interest and to assure a certain degree of fealty to constituents, but did not give a
Member’s constituency the authority to recall such a Member:
The spirit of the Constitution is, perhaps, in no respect more remarkable
than in the solicitude which it has manifested to secure the purity of the
Legislature by that of the elements of its composition …. Yet, in the midst of all
this anxious providence of legislative virtue, it has not authorized the constituent
body to recall in any case its representative.22

http://lugar.senate.gov/services/pdf_crs/Recall_of_Legislators_and_the_Removal_of_Members_of_Congress_from_Office.pdf

[CA renter]

Some people on FedUpUSA are trying to do this as well.

Here is one of the posts (see petition to recal…):

http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?forum=FedUp

Here is one of the PROBLEMS with trying to recall a legislator:

Constitutional History.
The United States Constitution does not provide for nor authorize the recall of
United States officials such as United States Senators, Representatives to Congress,
or the President or Vice President of the United States, and thus no United States
Senator or Member of the House of Representatives has ever been recalled in the
history of the United States. As early as 1807, a Senate Committee examining the
question of the Senate’s duty and broad authority to expel a Member, noted that such
duty devolves to the Senate not only because of the express constitutional grant of
authority, but also as a practical matter because the Constitution does not allow for
a “recall” of elected Members of Congress by the people or the State. The
Committee noted specifically that the Constitution had set out numerous provisions,
qualifications and requirements for Members of Congress to prevent conflicts of
interest and to assure a certain degree of fealty to constituents, but did not give a
Member’s constituency the authority to recall such a Member:
The spirit of the Constitution is, perhaps, in no respect more remarkable
than in the solicitude which it has manifested to secure the purity of the
Legislature by that of the elements of its composition …. Yet, in the midst of all
this anxious providence of legislative virtue, it has not authorized the constituent
body to recall in any case its representative.22

http://lugar.senate.gov/services/pdf_crs/Recall_of_Legislators_and_the_Removal_of_Members_of_Congress_from_Office.pdf

[CA renter]

Some people on FedUpUSA are trying to do this as well.

Here is one of the posts (see petition to recal…):

http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?forum=FedUp

Here is one of the PROBLEMS with trying to recall a legislator:

Constitutional History.
The United States Constitution does not provide for nor authorize the recall of
United States officials such as United States Senators, Representatives to Congress,
or the President or Vice President of the United States, and thus no United States
Senator or Member of the House of Representatives has ever been recalled in the
history of the United States. As early as 1807, a Senate Committee examining the
question of the Senate’s duty and broad authority to expel a Member, noted that such
duty devolves to the Senate not only because of the express constitutional grant of
authority, but also as a practical matter because the Constitution does not allow for
a “recall” of elected Members of Congress by the people or the State. The
Committee noted specifically that the Constitution had set out numerous provisions,
qualifications and requirements for Members of Congress to prevent conflicts of
interest and to assure a certain degree of fealty to constituents, but did not give a
Member’s constituency the authority to recall such a Member:
The spirit of the Constitution is, perhaps, in no respect more remarkable
than in the solicitude which it has manifested to secure the purity of the
Legislature by that of the elements of its composition …. Yet, in the midst of all
this anxious providence of legislative virtue, it has not authorized the constituent
body to recall in any case its representative.22

http://lugar.senate.gov/services/pdf_crs/Recall_of_Legislators_and_the_Removal_of_Members_of_Congress_from_Office.pdf

[CA renter]

Some people on FedUpUSA are trying to do this as well.

Here is one of the posts (see petition to recal…):

http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?forum=FedUp

Here is one of the PROBLEMS with trying to recall a legislator:

Constitutional History.
The United States Constitution does not provide for nor authorize the recall of
United States officials such as United States Senators, Representatives to Congress,
or the President or Vice President of the United States, and thus no United States
Senator or Member of the House of Representatives has ever been recalled in the
history of the United States. As early as 1807, a Senate Committee examining the
question of the Senate’s duty and broad authority to expel a Member, noted that such
duty devolves to the Senate not only because of the express constitutional grant of
authority, but also as a practical matter because the Constitution does not allow for
a “recall” of elected Members of Congress by the people or the State. The
Committee noted specifically that the Constitution had set out numerous provisions,
qualifications and requirements for Members of Congress to prevent conflicts of
interest and to assure a certain degree of fealty to constituents, but did not give a
Member’s constituency the authority to recall such a Member:
The spirit of the Constitution is, perhaps, in no respect more remarkable
than in the solicitude which it has manifested to secure the purity of the
Legislature by that of the elements of its composition …. Yet, in the midst of all
this anxious providence of legislative virtue, it has not authorized the constituent
body to recall in any case its representative.22

http://lugar.senate.gov/services/pdf_crs/Recall_of_Legislators_and_the_Removal_of_Members_of_Congress_from_Office.pdf

[CA renter]

Looks to me like another idea might be to try to get them on criminal charges. Isn’t stealing $700 billion (plus all the hundreds of billions already swapped with the Federal Reserve, and what’s still to come) a crime?

There is ample evidence showing the regulators and top execs knew exactly what was happening. They were warned repeatedly, but continued to allow the financial raping of the American sheeple.

Though I hate street thugs as much as anyone, they have a point when claiming that white collar criminals do far more damage yet receive far less punishment, if any at all. The current crop of Wall Street criminals are being used as consultants on the current theft, and Wall Street firms — the very ones who brought us here — are likely going to help facilitate this wealth transfer from taxpayers to themselves (they will be in charge of the fund, and decide who gets what, and how much will be paid for the trash).

Seriously, time for the pitchforks!

[CA renter]

Looks to me like another idea might be to try to get them on criminal charges. Isn’t stealing $700 billion (plus all the hundreds of billions already swapped with the Federal Reserve, and what’s still to come) a crime?

There is ample evidence showing the regulators and top execs knew exactly what was happening. They were warned repeatedly, but continued to allow the financial raping of the American sheeple.

Though I hate street thugs as much as anyone, they have a point when claiming that white collar criminals do far more damage yet receive far less punishment, if any at all. The current crop of Wall Street criminals are being used as consultants on the current theft, and Wall Street firms — the very ones who brought us here — are likely going to help facilitate this wealth transfer from taxpayers to themselves (they will be in charge of the fund, and decide who gets what, and how much will be paid for the trash).

Seriously, time for the pitchforks!

[CA renter]

Looks to me like another idea might be to try to get them on criminal charges. Isn’t stealing $700 billion (plus all the hundreds of billions already swapped with the Federal Reserve, and what’s still to come) a crime?

There is ample evidence showing the regulators and top execs knew exactly what was happening. They were warned repeatedly, but continued to allow the financial raping of the American sheeple.

Though I hate street thugs as much as anyone, they have a point when claiming that white collar criminals do far more damage yet receive far less punishment, if any at all. The current crop of Wall Street criminals are being used as consultants on the current theft, and Wall Street firms — the very ones who brought us here — are likely going to help facilitate this wealth transfer from taxpayers to themselves (they will be in charge of the fund, and decide who gets what, and how much will be paid for the trash).

Seriously, time for the pitchforks!

[CA renter]

Looks to me like another idea might be to try to get them on criminal charges. Isn’t stealing $700 billion (plus all the hundreds of billions already swapped with the Federal Reserve, and what’s still to come) a crime?

There is ample evidence showing the regulators and top execs knew exactly what was happening. They were warned repeatedly, but continued to allow the financial raping of the American sheeple.

Though I hate street thugs as much as anyone, they have a point when claiming that white collar criminals do far more damage yet receive far less punishment, if any at all. The current crop of Wall Street criminals are being used as consultants on the current theft, and Wall Street firms — the very ones who brought us here — are likely going to help facilitate this wealth transfer from taxpayers to themselves (they will be in charge of the fund, and decide who gets what, and how much will be paid for the trash).

Seriously, time for the pitchforks!

[CA renter]

Looks to me like another idea might be to try to get them on criminal charges. Isn’t stealing $700 billion (plus all the hundreds of billions already swapped with the Federal Reserve, and what’s still to come) a crime?

There is ample evidence showing the regulators and top execs knew exactly what was happening. They were warned repeatedly, but continued to allow the financial raping of the American sheeple.

Though I hate street thugs as much as anyone, they have a point when claiming that white collar criminals do far more damage yet receive far less punishment, if any at all. The current crop of Wall Street criminals are being used as consultants on the current theft, and Wall Street firms — the very ones who brought us here — are likely going to help facilitate this wealth transfer from taxpayers to themselves (they will be in charge of the fund, and decide who gets what, and how much will be paid for the trash).

Seriously, time for the pitchforks!

[Aecetia]

Sounds good to me. And these are old examples.

“Jack L Clark’s Nursing Home Construction Company was founded guilty of a gigantic stock fraud that bilked shareholders of $200 million. $10 million of this swindled money allegedly went for Clark’s personal use, and prosecutors accused him of hiding another $4 million as well. Clark apologized to the court, pleaded guilty to one count (out of sixty-five), and was sentenced to one year in prison, eligible for parole after four months, with no fine” (from Eitzen, 1986:427).
“C. Arnolt Smith, Chairman of U.S. National Bank, entered a plea of no contest to charges of conspiracy, misapplication of bank funds, filing false statements, and making false entries in his bank books. His case involved one of the largest swindles in American history (some estimates are as high as $250 million). His penalty for this crime was a $30,000 fine, to be paid at the rate of $100 a month over twenty-five years — with no interest” (Eitzen, 1986:427).

http://www.delmar.edu/socsci/rlong/intro/wc-crime.htm

I guess this new swindle of the American taxpayers is going to reset the bar!

[Aecetia]

Sounds good to me. And these are old examples.

“Jack L Clark’s Nursing Home Construction Company was founded guilty of a gigantic stock fraud that bilked shareholders of $200 million. $10 million of this swindled money allegedly went for Clark’s personal use, and prosecutors accused him of hiding another $4 million as well. Clark apologized to the court, pleaded guilty to one count (out of sixty-five), and was sentenced to one year in prison, eligible for parole after four months, with no fine” (from Eitzen, 1986:427).
“C. Arnolt Smith, Chairman of U.S. National Bank, entered a plea of no contest to charges of conspiracy, misapplication of bank funds, filing false statements, and making false entries in his bank books. His case involved one of the largest swindles in American history (some estimates are as high as $250 million). His penalty for this crime was a $30,000 fine, to be paid at the rate of $100 a month over twenty-five years — with no interest” (Eitzen, 1986:427).

http://www.delmar.edu/socsci/rlong/intro/wc-crime.htm

I guess this new swindle of the American taxpayers is going to reset the bar!

[Aecetia]

Sounds good to me. And these are old examples.

“Jack L Clark’s Nursing Home Construction Company was founded guilty of a gigantic stock fraud that bilked shareholders of $200 million. $10 million of this swindled money allegedly went for Clark’s personal use, and prosecutors accused him of hiding another $4 million as well. Clark apologized to the court, pleaded guilty to one count (out of sixty-five), and was sentenced to one year in prison, eligible for parole after four months, with no fine” (from Eitzen, 1986:427).
“C. Arnolt Smith, Chairman of U.S. National Bank, entered a plea of no contest to charges of conspiracy, misapplication of bank funds, filing false statements, and making false entries in his bank books. His case involved one of the largest swindles in American history (some estimates are as high as $250 million). His penalty for this crime was a $30,000 fine, to be paid at the rate of $100 a month over twenty-five years — with no interest” (Eitzen, 1986:427).

http://www.delmar.edu/socsci/rlong/intro/wc-crime.htm

I guess this new swindle of the American taxpayers is going to reset the bar!

[Aecetia]

Sounds good to me. And these are old examples.

“Jack L Clark’s Nursing Home Construction Company was founded guilty of a gigantic stock fraud that bilked shareholders of $200 million. $10 million of this swindled money allegedly went for Clark’s personal use, and prosecutors accused him of hiding another $4 million as well. Clark apologized to the court, pleaded guilty to one count (out of sixty-five), and was sentenced to one year in prison, eligible for parole after four months, with no fine” (from Eitzen, 1986:427).
“C. Arnolt Smith, Chairman of U.S. National Bank, entered a plea of no contest to charges of conspiracy, misapplication of bank funds, filing false statements, and making false entries in his bank books. His case involved one of the largest swindles in American history (some estimates are as high as $250 million). His penalty for this crime was a $30,000 fine, to be paid at the rate of $100 a month over twenty-five years — with no interest” (Eitzen, 1986:427).

http://www.delmar.edu/socsci/rlong/intro/wc-crime.htm

I guess this new swindle of the American taxpayers is going to reset the bar!

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