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March 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM #681651March 24, 2011 at 2:02 PM #680503
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Participant[quote=ocrenter]. . . so you end up with these heated debates that goes on forever because nobody is stepping up to separate these groups from the very beginning and treat them differently. . . [/quote]
Good post, ocrenter. The Native American groups residing within the continental United States ARE currently being treated differently (and appropriately, I think) on addiction issues in their home regions by professionals and rehab centers who are sensitive to their various cultural beliefs and practices. Their “self-medication” with alcohol and/or other substances is part of the problem due to the “old ways” their elders dealt with mood swings, frustration and depression not being available anymore.
For instance, the tradition of chewing betel nut by many older Pacific Islanders has been replaced by drinking alcohol over the last 25 years or so. This is due to strenuous warnings via word of mouth and the media serving these island nations. These ad campaigns have publicized the dire long-term consequences to the central nervous system and brain and oral cancer that chewing the betel nut causes. In addition, many South Pacific Islanders have had personal experience with a family “elder” who may have succumbed to an early death due to complications of being addicted to the betel nut. See:
March 24, 2011 at 2:02 PM #680555Participant[quote=ocrenter]. . . so you end up with these heated debates that goes on forever because nobody is stepping up to separate these groups from the very beginning and treat them differently. . . [/quote]
Good post, ocrenter. The Native American groups residing within the continental United States ARE currently being treated differently (and appropriately, I think) on addiction issues in their home regions by professionals and rehab centers who are sensitive to their various cultural beliefs and practices. Their “self-medication” with alcohol and/or other substances is part of the problem due to the “old ways” their elders dealt with mood swings, frustration and depression not being available anymore.
For instance, the tradition of chewing betel nut by many older Pacific Islanders has been replaced by drinking alcohol over the last 25 years or so. This is due to strenuous warnings via word of mouth and the media serving these island nations. These ad campaigns have publicized the dire long-term consequences to the central nervous system and brain and oral cancer that chewing the betel nut causes. In addition, many South Pacific Islanders have had personal experience with a family “elder” who may have succumbed to an early death due to complications of being addicted to the betel nut. See:
March 24, 2011 at 2:02 PM #681171Participant[quote=ocrenter]. . . so you end up with these heated debates that goes on forever because nobody is stepping up to separate these groups from the very beginning and treat them differently. . . [/quote]
Good post, ocrenter. The Native American groups residing within the continental United States ARE currently being treated differently (and appropriately, I think) on addiction issues in their home regions by professionals and rehab centers who are sensitive to their various cultural beliefs and practices. Their “self-medication” with alcohol and/or other substances is part of the problem due to the “old ways” their elders dealt with mood swings, frustration and depression not being available anymore.
For instance, the tradition of chewing betel nut by many older Pacific Islanders has been replaced by drinking alcohol over the last 25 years or so. This is due to strenuous warnings via word of mouth and the media serving these island nations. These ad campaigns have publicized the dire long-term consequences to the central nervous system and brain and oral cancer that chewing the betel nut causes. In addition, many South Pacific Islanders have had personal experience with a family “elder” who may have succumbed to an early death due to complications of being addicted to the betel nut. See:
March 24, 2011 at 2:02 PM #681310Participant[quote=ocrenter]. . . so you end up with these heated debates that goes on forever because nobody is stepping up to separate these groups from the very beginning and treat them differently. . . [/quote]
Good post, ocrenter. The Native American groups residing within the continental United States ARE currently being treated differently (and appropriately, I think) on addiction issues in their home regions by professionals and rehab centers who are sensitive to their various cultural beliefs and practices. Their “self-medication” with alcohol and/or other substances is part of the problem due to the “old ways” their elders dealt with mood swings, frustration and depression not being available anymore.
For instance, the tradition of chewing betel nut by many older Pacific Islanders has been replaced by drinking alcohol over the last 25 years or so. This is due to strenuous warnings via word of mouth and the media serving these island nations. These ad campaigns have publicized the dire long-term consequences to the central nervous system and brain and oral cancer that chewing the betel nut causes. In addition, many South Pacific Islanders have had personal experience with a family “elder” who may have succumbed to an early death due to complications of being addicted to the betel nut. See:
March 24, 2011 at 2:02 PM #681661Participant[quote=ocrenter]. . . so you end up with these heated debates that goes on forever because nobody is stepping up to separate these groups from the very beginning and treat them differently. . . [/quote]
Good post, ocrenter. The Native American groups residing within the continental United States ARE currently being treated differently (and appropriately, I think) on addiction issues in their home regions by professionals and rehab centers who are sensitive to their various cultural beliefs and practices. Their “self-medication” with alcohol and/or other substances is part of the problem due to the “old ways” their elders dealt with mood swings, frustration and depression not being available anymore.
For instance, the tradition of chewing betel nut by many older Pacific Islanders has been replaced by drinking alcohol over the last 25 years or so. This is due to strenuous warnings via word of mouth and the media serving these island nations. These ad campaigns have publicized the dire long-term consequences to the central nervous system and brain and oral cancer that chewing the betel nut causes. In addition, many South Pacific Islanders have had personal experience with a family “elder” who may have succumbed to an early death due to complications of being addicted to the betel nut. See:
March 24, 2011 at 2:17 PM #680508Participant[quote=briansd1]. . . I think it’s good advice but he won’t see anybody where there’s a record that can resurface later.
Security screening can uncover medical records and affect his job. [/quote]
brian, your friend can see a mental health professional, attend rehab and detox and/or obtain hypnosis or other treatment on his own on the sly as long as he is able to pay for it and thus keep it out of the “big insurance computer in the sky.”
He just has to save up at least a month of annual leave (if he doesn’t already have 4-6 weeks “on the books”), put in for it and tell his co-workers he’s going on vacation. No one would be the wiser :=]
Celebrities and politicians do this all the time.
March 24, 2011 at 2:17 PM #680560Participant[quote=briansd1]. . . I think it’s good advice but he won’t see anybody where there’s a record that can resurface later.
Security screening can uncover medical records and affect his job. [/quote]
brian, your friend can see a mental health professional, attend rehab and detox and/or obtain hypnosis or other treatment on his own on the sly as long as he is able to pay for it and thus keep it out of the “big insurance computer in the sky.”
He just has to save up at least a month of annual leave (if he doesn’t already have 4-6 weeks “on the books”), put in for it and tell his co-workers he’s going on vacation. No one would be the wiser :=]
Celebrities and politicians do this all the time.
March 24, 2011 at 2:17 PM #681176Participant[quote=briansd1]. . . I think it’s good advice but he won’t see anybody where there’s a record that can resurface later.
Security screening can uncover medical records and affect his job. [/quote]
brian, your friend can see a mental health professional, attend rehab and detox and/or obtain hypnosis or other treatment on his own on the sly as long as he is able to pay for it and thus keep it out of the “big insurance computer in the sky.”
He just has to save up at least a month of annual leave (if he doesn’t already have 4-6 weeks “on the books”), put in for it and tell his co-workers he’s going on vacation. No one would be the wiser :=]
Celebrities and politicians do this all the time.
March 24, 2011 at 2:17 PM #681315Participant[quote=briansd1]. . . I think it’s good advice but he won’t see anybody where there’s a record that can resurface later.
Security screening can uncover medical records and affect his job. [/quote]
brian, your friend can see a mental health professional, attend rehab and detox and/or obtain hypnosis or other treatment on his own on the sly as long as he is able to pay for it and thus keep it out of the “big insurance computer in the sky.”
He just has to save up at least a month of annual leave (if he doesn’t already have 4-6 weeks “on the books”), put in for it and tell his co-workers he’s going on vacation. No one would be the wiser :=]
Celebrities and politicians do this all the time.
March 24, 2011 at 2:17 PM #681666Participant[quote=briansd1]. . . I think it’s good advice but he won’t see anybody where there’s a record that can resurface later.
Security screening can uncover medical records and affect his job. [/quote]
brian, your friend can see a mental health professional, attend rehab and detox and/or obtain hypnosis or other treatment on his own on the sly as long as he is able to pay for it and thus keep it out of the “big insurance computer in the sky.”
He just has to save up at least a month of annual leave (if he doesn’t already have 4-6 weeks “on the books”), put in for it and tell his co-workers he’s going on vacation. No one would be the wiser :=]
Celebrities and politicians do this all the time.
March 24, 2011 at 3:24 PM #680513NotCranky
ParticipantZK, I meant that, I did not use personal anectdotal stories to draw conclusions in the debate on genetics. I disagreed with the “stay abstinent or die model for problem drinkers” and that is what I found interestingly in agreement with Mr.Peele,and some others.He does show that there have been many false starts and stops with genetic connections to alcoholism. Obviously, whoever he is kicking around doesn’t bother me as much as it does you.
My case is that these findings you linked have to stand the test of time. If you think they will then good.
You are right that many scientists are not also business men and women. I am getting sloppy with color commentary that is not useful. Just saying, let their work stand the test of time.
March 24, 2011 at 3:24 PM #680565ParticipantZK, I meant that, I did not use personal anectdotal stories to draw conclusions in the debate on genetics. I disagreed with the “stay abstinent or die model for problem drinkers” and that is what I found interestingly in agreement with Mr.Peele,and some others.He does show that there have been many false starts and stops with genetic connections to alcoholism. Obviously, whoever he is kicking around doesn’t bother me as much as it does you.
My case is that these findings you linked have to stand the test of time. If you think they will then good.
You are right that many scientists are not also business men and women. I am getting sloppy with color commentary that is not useful. Just saying, let their work stand the test of time.
March 24, 2011 at 3:24 PM #681181ParticipantZK, I meant that, I did not use personal anectdotal stories to draw conclusions in the debate on genetics. I disagreed with the “stay abstinent or die model for problem drinkers” and that is what I found interestingly in agreement with Mr.Peele,and some others.He does show that there have been many false starts and stops with genetic connections to alcoholism. Obviously, whoever he is kicking around doesn’t bother me as much as it does you.
My case is that these findings you linked have to stand the test of time. If you think they will then good.
You are right that many scientists are not also business men and women. I am getting sloppy with color commentary that is not useful. Just saying, let their work stand the test of time.
March 24, 2011 at 3:24 PM #681319ParticipantZK, I meant that, I did not use personal anectdotal stories to draw conclusions in the debate on genetics. I disagreed with the “stay abstinent or die model for problem drinkers” and that is what I found interestingly in agreement with Mr.Peele,and some others.He does show that there have been many false starts and stops with genetic connections to alcoholism. Obviously, whoever he is kicking around doesn’t bother me as much as it does you.
My case is that these findings you linked have to stand the test of time. If you think they will then good.
You are right that many scientists are not also business men and women. I am getting sloppy with color commentary that is not useful. Just saying, let their work stand the test of time.
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