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October 9, 2008 at 10:39 AM #284382October 9, 2008 at 10:47 AM #284047
Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: Dude! The horse is dead. Stop beating it.
Petraeus is a stud, though. His accomplishments with the 82d Airborne during his tenure as CO really stand out as how to operate effectively in a counter-insurgency environment without incurring US or civilian casualties to an unnecessary degree.
As a former soldier, I would also caution you as to reading too much into his comments. Regardless of one’s thoughts, feelings or affiliations, all professional officers maintain impartiality at all times to prevent any sort of misunderstanding.
Lastly, according to a buddy of mine in Baghdad, troop count was not a marginal factor. It wasn’t the decisive factor, either, that much is true, but it wasn’t marginal.
October 9, 2008 at 10:47 AM #284333Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: Dude! The horse is dead. Stop beating it.
Petraeus is a stud, though. His accomplishments with the 82d Airborne during his tenure as CO really stand out as how to operate effectively in a counter-insurgency environment without incurring US or civilian casualties to an unnecessary degree.
As a former soldier, I would also caution you as to reading too much into his comments. Regardless of one’s thoughts, feelings or affiliations, all professional officers maintain impartiality at all times to prevent any sort of misunderstanding.
Lastly, according to a buddy of mine in Baghdad, troop count was not a marginal factor. It wasn’t the decisive factor, either, that much is true, but it wasn’t marginal.
October 9, 2008 at 10:47 AM #284358Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: Dude! The horse is dead. Stop beating it.
Petraeus is a stud, though. His accomplishments with the 82d Airborne during his tenure as CO really stand out as how to operate effectively in a counter-insurgency environment without incurring US or civilian casualties to an unnecessary degree.
As a former soldier, I would also caution you as to reading too much into his comments. Regardless of one’s thoughts, feelings or affiliations, all professional officers maintain impartiality at all times to prevent any sort of misunderstanding.
Lastly, according to a buddy of mine in Baghdad, troop count was not a marginal factor. It wasn’t the decisive factor, either, that much is true, but it wasn’t marginal.
October 9, 2008 at 10:47 AM #284376Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: Dude! The horse is dead. Stop beating it.
Petraeus is a stud, though. His accomplishments with the 82d Airborne during his tenure as CO really stand out as how to operate effectively in a counter-insurgency environment without incurring US or civilian casualties to an unnecessary degree.
As a former soldier, I would also caution you as to reading too much into his comments. Regardless of one’s thoughts, feelings or affiliations, all professional officers maintain impartiality at all times to prevent any sort of misunderstanding.
Lastly, according to a buddy of mine in Baghdad, troop count was not a marginal factor. It wasn’t the decisive factor, either, that much is true, but it wasn’t marginal.
October 9, 2008 at 10:47 AM #284387Allan from Fallbrook
Participantgandalf: Dude! The horse is dead. Stop beating it.
Petraeus is a stud, though. His accomplishments with the 82d Airborne during his tenure as CO really stand out as how to operate effectively in a counter-insurgency environment without incurring US or civilian casualties to an unnecessary degree.
As a former soldier, I would also caution you as to reading too much into his comments. Regardless of one’s thoughts, feelings or affiliations, all professional officers maintain impartiality at all times to prevent any sort of misunderstanding.
Lastly, according to a buddy of mine in Baghdad, troop count was not a marginal factor. It wasn’t the decisive factor, either, that much is true, but it wasn’t marginal.
October 10, 2008 at 4:47 PM #285350urbanrealtor
ParticipantDude,
Allan, your thought on economic instability effecting political stability?Whip my dead horse.
–DanOctober 10, 2008 at 4:47 PM #285640urbanrealtor
ParticipantDude,
Allan, your thought on economic instability effecting political stability?Whip my dead horse.
–DanOctober 10, 2008 at 4:47 PM #285661urbanrealtor
ParticipantDude,
Allan, your thought on economic instability effecting political stability?Whip my dead horse.
–DanOctober 10, 2008 at 4:47 PM #285684urbanrealtor
ParticipantDude,
Allan, your thought on economic instability effecting political stability?Whip my dead horse.
–DanOctober 10, 2008 at 4:47 PM #285692urbanrealtor
ParticipantDude,
Allan, your thought on economic instability effecting political stability?Whip my dead horse.
–DanOctober 11, 2008 at 7:22 AM #285479Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantDan: Beyond the feeling that neither McCain nor Obama has any clue as to what to do here? I don’t see either candidate stepping up and telling the American people what are now home truths: We need to stop buying s**t we cannot afford, we need to go back to our core strength of manufacturing and production and we need to stop these nasty and expensive foreign misadventures.
I would opine that the US has managed to gull the rest of the world for the last 25 years into believing we were possessed of a financial acumen that didn’t exist and that we’ve managed to sustain an unsustainable standard of living through insane amounts of debt creation (personal, commercial and governmental) and now the bill has come due.
I would also say that I think our days of being a world leader in banking and insurance are over, but
then I see the problems in the Euro zone, and China and even the Mideast, and realize that the whole world is pretty sideways right now, so who the hell knows? We are in completely uncharted waters right now, even relative to something as catastrophic as the Great Depression and while the US won’t emerged unscathed, we seem to be ahead of the curve (in terms of timing) of many other countries.In response to your sign-off, I can only offer the wisdom of Devo: “Whip it. Whip it good”.
October 11, 2008 at 7:22 AM #285770Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantDan: Beyond the feeling that neither McCain nor Obama has any clue as to what to do here? I don’t see either candidate stepping up and telling the American people what are now home truths: We need to stop buying s**t we cannot afford, we need to go back to our core strength of manufacturing and production and we need to stop these nasty and expensive foreign misadventures.
I would opine that the US has managed to gull the rest of the world for the last 25 years into believing we were possessed of a financial acumen that didn’t exist and that we’ve managed to sustain an unsustainable standard of living through insane amounts of debt creation (personal, commercial and governmental) and now the bill has come due.
I would also say that I think our days of being a world leader in banking and insurance are over, but
then I see the problems in the Euro zone, and China and even the Mideast, and realize that the whole world is pretty sideways right now, so who the hell knows? We are in completely uncharted waters right now, even relative to something as catastrophic as the Great Depression and while the US won’t emerged unscathed, we seem to be ahead of the curve (in terms of timing) of many other countries.In response to your sign-off, I can only offer the wisdom of Devo: “Whip it. Whip it good”.
October 11, 2008 at 7:22 AM #285791Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantDan: Beyond the feeling that neither McCain nor Obama has any clue as to what to do here? I don’t see either candidate stepping up and telling the American people what are now home truths: We need to stop buying s**t we cannot afford, we need to go back to our core strength of manufacturing and production and we need to stop these nasty and expensive foreign misadventures.
I would opine that the US has managed to gull the rest of the world for the last 25 years into believing we were possessed of a financial acumen that didn’t exist and that we’ve managed to sustain an unsustainable standard of living through insane amounts of debt creation (personal, commercial and governmental) and now the bill has come due.
I would also say that I think our days of being a world leader in banking and insurance are over, but
then I see the problems in the Euro zone, and China and even the Mideast, and realize that the whole world is pretty sideways right now, so who the hell knows? We are in completely uncharted waters right now, even relative to something as catastrophic as the Great Depression and while the US won’t emerged unscathed, we seem to be ahead of the curve (in terms of timing) of many other countries.In response to your sign-off, I can only offer the wisdom of Devo: “Whip it. Whip it good”.
October 11, 2008 at 7:22 AM #285814Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantDan: Beyond the feeling that neither McCain nor Obama has any clue as to what to do here? I don’t see either candidate stepping up and telling the American people what are now home truths: We need to stop buying s**t we cannot afford, we need to go back to our core strength of manufacturing and production and we need to stop these nasty and expensive foreign misadventures.
I would opine that the US has managed to gull the rest of the world for the last 25 years into believing we were possessed of a financial acumen that didn’t exist and that we’ve managed to sustain an unsustainable standard of living through insane amounts of debt creation (personal, commercial and governmental) and now the bill has come due.
I would also say that I think our days of being a world leader in banking and insurance are over, but
then I see the problems in the Euro zone, and China and even the Mideast, and realize that the whole world is pretty sideways right now, so who the hell knows? We are in completely uncharted waters right now, even relative to something as catastrophic as the Great Depression and while the US won’t emerged unscathed, we seem to be ahead of the curve (in terms of timing) of many other countries.In response to your sign-off, I can only offer the wisdom of Devo: “Whip it. Whip it good”.
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