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July 24, 2008 at 2:13 PM #246380July 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM #246172bsrsharmaParticipant
I once enthusiastically went for a speech by James Irwin who was an Apollo 15 moon walker. I was hoping to listen to some first hand experience. Instead, he preached (a rather weak) evangelizing sermon on how he found God (and Jesus) while standing on the moon and seeing the earth (big blue ball etc.,).
July 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM #246322bsrsharmaParticipantI once enthusiastically went for a speech by James Irwin who was an Apollo 15 moon walker. I was hoping to listen to some first hand experience. Instead, he preached (a rather weak) evangelizing sermon on how he found God (and Jesus) while standing on the moon and seeing the earth (big blue ball etc.,).
July 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM #246328bsrsharmaParticipantI once enthusiastically went for a speech by James Irwin who was an Apollo 15 moon walker. I was hoping to listen to some first hand experience. Instead, he preached (a rather weak) evangelizing sermon on how he found God (and Jesus) while standing on the moon and seeing the earth (big blue ball etc.,).
July 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM #246384bsrsharmaParticipantI once enthusiastically went for a speech by James Irwin who was an Apollo 15 moon walker. I was hoping to listen to some first hand experience. Instead, he preached (a rather weak) evangelizing sermon on how he found God (and Jesus) while standing on the moon and seeing the earth (big blue ball etc.,).
July 24, 2008 at 2:14 PM #246390bsrsharmaParticipantI once enthusiastically went for a speech by James Irwin who was an Apollo 15 moon walker. I was hoping to listen to some first hand experience. Instead, he preached (a rather weak) evangelizing sermon on how he found God (and Jesus) while standing on the moon and seeing the earth (big blue ball etc.,).
July 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM #246181SDEngineerParticipant4plex:
Considering the only “evidence” that they bring forth is their own testimony, it’s ENTIRELY relevent to look at the credibility of those witnesses, and, frankly, people who habitually wear tinfoil hats don’t have much credibility in my eyes.
The burden of proof is on them – not me. I simply point out that a skeptical person is not likely to attach much credibility to the testimony of someone who clearly believes in a great many notions which are far outside of the scientific mainstream.
July 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM #246332SDEngineerParticipant4plex:
Considering the only “evidence” that they bring forth is their own testimony, it’s ENTIRELY relevent to look at the credibility of those witnesses, and, frankly, people who habitually wear tinfoil hats don’t have much credibility in my eyes.
The burden of proof is on them – not me. I simply point out that a skeptical person is not likely to attach much credibility to the testimony of someone who clearly believes in a great many notions which are far outside of the scientific mainstream.
July 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM #246338SDEngineerParticipant4plex:
Considering the only “evidence” that they bring forth is their own testimony, it’s ENTIRELY relevent to look at the credibility of those witnesses, and, frankly, people who habitually wear tinfoil hats don’t have much credibility in my eyes.
The burden of proof is on them – not me. I simply point out that a skeptical person is not likely to attach much credibility to the testimony of someone who clearly believes in a great many notions which are far outside of the scientific mainstream.
July 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM #246394SDEngineerParticipant4plex:
Considering the only “evidence” that they bring forth is their own testimony, it’s ENTIRELY relevent to look at the credibility of those witnesses, and, frankly, people who habitually wear tinfoil hats don’t have much credibility in my eyes.
The burden of proof is on them – not me. I simply point out that a skeptical person is not likely to attach much credibility to the testimony of someone who clearly believes in a great many notions which are far outside of the scientific mainstream.
July 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM #246400SDEngineerParticipant4plex:
Considering the only “evidence” that they bring forth is their own testimony, it’s ENTIRELY relevent to look at the credibility of those witnesses, and, frankly, people who habitually wear tinfoil hats don’t have much credibility in my eyes.
The burden of proof is on them – not me. I simply point out that a skeptical person is not likely to attach much credibility to the testimony of someone who clearly believes in a great many notions which are far outside of the scientific mainstream.
July 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM #246187jficquetteParticipantGo over the to the ocean around 3.30 am during Santa Ana conditions and just watch the sky. Look Northwest about 11 o’clock.
They are military and fly out of Vanderberg. I say military because ET’s wouldn’t travel light years to do hook slides and doughnuts in our atmosphere.
I watched 3 ships doing maneuverers until my neck hurt one morning.
Whatever these things are they don’t obey the laws of physics as we claim to understand them.
We already have the technology to make fossil fuels obsolete. My guess is that the technology is easily weaponized and that is one reason we don’t let it out, not to mention what it would do to the economy.
John
July 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM #246337jficquetteParticipantGo over the to the ocean around 3.30 am during Santa Ana conditions and just watch the sky. Look Northwest about 11 o’clock.
They are military and fly out of Vanderberg. I say military because ET’s wouldn’t travel light years to do hook slides and doughnuts in our atmosphere.
I watched 3 ships doing maneuverers until my neck hurt one morning.
Whatever these things are they don’t obey the laws of physics as we claim to understand them.
We already have the technology to make fossil fuels obsolete. My guess is that the technology is easily weaponized and that is one reason we don’t let it out, not to mention what it would do to the economy.
John
July 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM #246343jficquetteParticipantGo over the to the ocean around 3.30 am during Santa Ana conditions and just watch the sky. Look Northwest about 11 o’clock.
They are military and fly out of Vanderberg. I say military because ET’s wouldn’t travel light years to do hook slides and doughnuts in our atmosphere.
I watched 3 ships doing maneuverers until my neck hurt one morning.
Whatever these things are they don’t obey the laws of physics as we claim to understand them.
We already have the technology to make fossil fuels obsolete. My guess is that the technology is easily weaponized and that is one reason we don’t let it out, not to mention what it would do to the economy.
John
July 24, 2008 at 2:34 PM #246399jficquetteParticipantGo over the to the ocean around 3.30 am during Santa Ana conditions and just watch the sky. Look Northwest about 11 o’clock.
They are military and fly out of Vanderberg. I say military because ET’s wouldn’t travel light years to do hook slides and doughnuts in our atmosphere.
I watched 3 ships doing maneuverers until my neck hurt one morning.
Whatever these things are they don’t obey the laws of physics as we claim to understand them.
We already have the technology to make fossil fuels obsolete. My guess is that the technology is easily weaponized and that is one reason we don’t let it out, not to mention what it would do to the economy.
John
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