Off Topic: “Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up”

[jficquette]

[quote=Shadowfax][quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.

No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?

THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.

Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]

I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO. [/quote]

Not only that but in 100 years we will have the information to change the humane genome to pretty much what we want. Higher IQ’s, immune to sickness, solidly Republican (g) etc.

Just imagine a race 10000 years ahead. They have changed their genes so much that there no telling how they operate.

John

[jficquette]

SD:

I don’t think the Aliens even care what we think and I think that they show themselves by accident from time to time or they may do it for leverage because its our governments who don’t want them known about.

They apparently crash their craft from time to time. So its not like they are infallible. They screw up too. Actually, statistically they must have flown thousands of missions in our space for them to have had the crashes as they have. I say that because their systems but be completely automated and much more foolproof then our Airliners who rarely crash.

Read through these documents and see what you think.

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John

[jficquette]

SD:

I don’t think the Aliens even care what we think and I think that they show themselves by accident from time to time or they may do it for leverage because its our governments who don’t want them known about.

They apparently crash their craft from time to time. So its not like they are infallible. They screw up too. Actually, statistically they must have flown thousands of missions in our space for them to have had the crashes as they have. I say that because their systems but be completely automated and much more foolproof then our Airliners who rarely crash.

Read through these documents and see what you think.

Home

Thanks

John

[jficquette]

SD:

I don’t think the Aliens even care what we think and I think that they show themselves by accident from time to time or they may do it for leverage because its our governments who don’t want them known about.

They apparently crash their craft from time to time. So its not like they are infallible. They screw up too. Actually, statistically they must have flown thousands of missions in our space for them to have had the crashes as they have. I say that because their systems but be completely automated and much more foolproof then our Airliners who rarely crash.

Read through these documents and see what you think.

Home

Thanks

John

[jficquette]

SD:

I don’t think the Aliens even care what we think and I think that they show themselves by accident from time to time or they may do it for leverage because its our governments who don’t want them known about.

They apparently crash their craft from time to time. So its not like they are infallible. They screw up too. Actually, statistically they must have flown thousands of missions in our space for them to have had the crashes as they have. I say that because their systems but be completely automated and much more foolproof then our Airliners who rarely crash.

Read through these documents and see what you think.

Home

Thanks

John

[jficquette]

SD:

I don’t think the Aliens even care what we think and I think that they show themselves by accident from time to time or they may do it for leverage because its our governments who don’t want them known about.

They apparently crash their craft from time to time. So its not like they are infallible. They screw up too. Actually, statistically they must have flown thousands of missions in our space for them to have had the crashes as they have. I say that because their systems but be completely automated and much more foolproof then our Airliners who rarely crash.

Read through these documents and see what you think.

Home

Thanks

John

[Allan from Fallbrook]

John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).

What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.

Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).

Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).

What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.

Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).

Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).

What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.

Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).

Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).

What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.

Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).

Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

John: This response is totally off topic on an off topic, but I wanted to address your comments about WWII. You’re absolutely correct about some of the mismanagement of that war, both in terms of prosecuting campaigns in the Pacific and Europe and on the homefront as well (war profiteering, infighting between Republicans and Democrats).

What I wanted to say, was that I think Joe Stalin was right about one thing: I think the US and Britain allowed the Russians to bleed the Germans and themselves white while they slowly moved towards an eventual invasion of Fortress Europe.

Operation Torch (North Africa) is an excellent case in point, as are the Sicilian and Italian campaigns. We didn’t land in France until June of 1944 and the Germans were pretty much a spent force at that point (Operation Citadelle/Zitadelle in the Kursk pocket was the Wehrmacht’s last hurrah in Russia, and that was summer of 1943).

Stalin had been screaming for an Allied invasion in Europe and FDR and Churchill had been glad handing him the entire time. I think they knew that the Russians were the bigger “over the horizon” problem and having the Soviets deplete their forces while ejecting the Nazis from the Motherland was part of a larger strategy that envisioned the coming Cold War.

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