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July 25, 2008 at 12:28 AM #246875July 25, 2008 at 1:20 AM #246687ShadowfaxParticipant
[quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO.
July 25, 2008 at 1:20 AM #246837ShadowfaxParticipant[quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO.
July 25, 2008 at 1:20 AM #246843ShadowfaxParticipant[quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO.
July 25, 2008 at 1:20 AM #246901ShadowfaxParticipant[quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO.
July 25, 2008 at 1:20 AM #246905ShadowfaxParticipant[quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO.
July 25, 2008 at 7:35 AM #246716jficquetteParticipantGandalf,
I have been laying off putting his up but here you go.
Don’t you think that Obama looks like a character in a Twlight Zone episode??
Come on now watch this carefully. I actually think that Hillary could be behind it.
As far as Bush goes I actually think he is a good guy which is another reason I take up for him.
You mention that he was right on the larger issues. Well that is very important to me and its what we want in a leader. Bush was the one in my mind that was constantly attack. I have never heard Bush say a bad thing about anyone. Have you??
So in Bush I see a great human being who fought not only a war for us but fought the cowardly MSM, and Socialists Democrats at the same time.
All wars have been wasteful. I watch the history channel every night pretty much. WW2 was a disaster we had tens of thousands killed needlessly. We had no business taking the Philippines. It was unnecessary. We had no reason to land in North Africa or to Invade Italy.
As far as wars go this Gulf War has gone pretty smooth. Its almost over and the Dems are crying defeat, or were, until it became so obvious that we pretty much have the war won.
Captain Zoomar was this character on local TV when I as growing up. LOL.
As far as name calling that’s ok. I mean if you going post stuff that the majority probably won’t like then you sort of expect some blowback. Plus the internet brings out the worst in all of us.
I didn’t’ take it personally because you don’t’ know me.
Thanks,
John
July 25, 2008 at 7:35 AM #246867jficquetteParticipantGandalf,
I have been laying off putting his up but here you go.
Don’t you think that Obama looks like a character in a Twlight Zone episode??
Come on now watch this carefully. I actually think that Hillary could be behind it.
As far as Bush goes I actually think he is a good guy which is another reason I take up for him.
You mention that he was right on the larger issues. Well that is very important to me and its what we want in a leader. Bush was the one in my mind that was constantly attack. I have never heard Bush say a bad thing about anyone. Have you??
So in Bush I see a great human being who fought not only a war for us but fought the cowardly MSM, and Socialists Democrats at the same time.
All wars have been wasteful. I watch the history channel every night pretty much. WW2 was a disaster we had tens of thousands killed needlessly. We had no business taking the Philippines. It was unnecessary. We had no reason to land in North Africa or to Invade Italy.
As far as wars go this Gulf War has gone pretty smooth. Its almost over and the Dems are crying defeat, or were, until it became so obvious that we pretty much have the war won.
Captain Zoomar was this character on local TV when I as growing up. LOL.
As far as name calling that’s ok. I mean if you going post stuff that the majority probably won’t like then you sort of expect some blowback. Plus the internet brings out the worst in all of us.
I didn’t’ take it personally because you don’t’ know me.
Thanks,
John
July 25, 2008 at 7:35 AM #246873jficquetteParticipantGandalf,
I have been laying off putting his up but here you go.
Don’t you think that Obama looks like a character in a Twlight Zone episode??
Come on now watch this carefully. I actually think that Hillary could be behind it.
As far as Bush goes I actually think he is a good guy which is another reason I take up for him.
You mention that he was right on the larger issues. Well that is very important to me and its what we want in a leader. Bush was the one in my mind that was constantly attack. I have never heard Bush say a bad thing about anyone. Have you??
So in Bush I see a great human being who fought not only a war for us but fought the cowardly MSM, and Socialists Democrats at the same time.
All wars have been wasteful. I watch the history channel every night pretty much. WW2 was a disaster we had tens of thousands killed needlessly. We had no business taking the Philippines. It was unnecessary. We had no reason to land in North Africa or to Invade Italy.
As far as wars go this Gulf War has gone pretty smooth. Its almost over and the Dems are crying defeat, or were, until it became so obvious that we pretty much have the war won.
Captain Zoomar was this character on local TV when I as growing up. LOL.
As far as name calling that’s ok. I mean if you going post stuff that the majority probably won’t like then you sort of expect some blowback. Plus the internet brings out the worst in all of us.
I didn’t’ take it personally because you don’t’ know me.
Thanks,
John
July 25, 2008 at 7:35 AM #246931jficquetteParticipantGandalf,
I have been laying off putting his up but here you go.
Don’t you think that Obama looks like a character in a Twlight Zone episode??
Come on now watch this carefully. I actually think that Hillary could be behind it.
As far as Bush goes I actually think he is a good guy which is another reason I take up for him.
You mention that he was right on the larger issues. Well that is very important to me and its what we want in a leader. Bush was the one in my mind that was constantly attack. I have never heard Bush say a bad thing about anyone. Have you??
So in Bush I see a great human being who fought not only a war for us but fought the cowardly MSM, and Socialists Democrats at the same time.
All wars have been wasteful. I watch the history channel every night pretty much. WW2 was a disaster we had tens of thousands killed needlessly. We had no business taking the Philippines. It was unnecessary. We had no reason to land in North Africa or to Invade Italy.
As far as wars go this Gulf War has gone pretty smooth. Its almost over and the Dems are crying defeat, or were, until it became so obvious that we pretty much have the war won.
Captain Zoomar was this character on local TV when I as growing up. LOL.
As far as name calling that’s ok. I mean if you going post stuff that the majority probably won’t like then you sort of expect some blowback. Plus the internet brings out the worst in all of us.
I didn’t’ take it personally because you don’t’ know me.
Thanks,
John
July 25, 2008 at 7:35 AM #246934jficquetteParticipantGandalf,
I have been laying off putting his up but here you go.
Don’t you think that Obama looks like a character in a Twlight Zone episode??
Come on now watch this carefully. I actually think that Hillary could be behind it.
As far as Bush goes I actually think he is a good guy which is another reason I take up for him.
You mention that he was right on the larger issues. Well that is very important to me and its what we want in a leader. Bush was the one in my mind that was constantly attack. I have never heard Bush say a bad thing about anyone. Have you??
So in Bush I see a great human being who fought not only a war for us but fought the cowardly MSM, and Socialists Democrats at the same time.
All wars have been wasteful. I watch the history channel every night pretty much. WW2 was a disaster we had tens of thousands killed needlessly. We had no business taking the Philippines. It was unnecessary. We had no reason to land in North Africa or to Invade Italy.
As far as wars go this Gulf War has gone pretty smooth. Its almost over and the Dems are crying defeat, or were, until it became so obvious that we pretty much have the war won.
Captain Zoomar was this character on local TV when I as growing up. LOL.
As far as name calling that’s ok. I mean if you going post stuff that the majority probably won’t like then you sort of expect some blowback. Plus the internet brings out the worst in all of us.
I didn’t’ take it personally because you don’t’ know me.
Thanks,
John
July 25, 2008 at 7:37 AM #246726jficquetteParticipant[quote=Shadowfax][quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO. [/quote]
Not only that but in 100 years we will have the information to change the humane genome to pretty much what we want. Higher IQ’s, immune to sickness, solidly Republican (g) etc.
Just imagine a race 10000 years ahead. They have changed their genes so much that there no telling how they operate.
John
July 25, 2008 at 7:37 AM #246877jficquetteParticipant[quote=Shadowfax][quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO. [/quote]
Not only that but in 100 years we will have the information to change the humane genome to pretty much what we want. Higher IQ’s, immune to sickness, solidly Republican (g) etc.
Just imagine a race 10000 years ahead. They have changed their genes so much that there no telling how they operate.
John
July 25, 2008 at 7:37 AM #246883jficquetteParticipant[quote=Shadowfax][quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO. [/quote]
Not only that but in 100 years we will have the information to change the humane genome to pretty much what we want. Higher IQ’s, immune to sickness, solidly Republican (g) etc.
Just imagine a race 10000 years ahead. They have changed their genes so much that there no telling how they operate.
John
July 25, 2008 at 7:37 AM #246941jficquetteParticipant[quote=Shadowfax][quote=afx114]I’m not saying that aliens will think/act like us because of some humanistic egotism. It’s because the Universe is made up of all the same stuff. It all follows all of the same laws. These laws guide things in the universe to be similar: There are galaxies like ours. There are solar systems like ours. There are planets like ours. There are environments like the environments on earth. Take the same elements, governed by the same laws, in the same environments, and you can reasonably assume that there will be similar results. If I pour some vinnegar in some baking soda, I can reasonably assume that it will always fizz. Because it always does.
No, I don’t think aliens will look like us. They won’t have skinny bodies with big heads and big eyes. But I do believe that evolution will find the path of least resistance, and “curiosity” and “exploration” are part of our brains for a reason. Perhaps they are a requirement for life itself… you know, to ensure your existence. Wouldn’t any intelligent being consider expansion and exploration part of its duty to preserve its existence?
THAT is why I think aliens are out there looking. Not because I want to feel special – but because the universe itself demands it of them. They aren’t out there looking for us specifically.. they’re just looking.
Or maybe I’m just batshit insane. :)[/quote]
I think any sentient species will be out there looking. But I think your assumption that everything works the same everywhere is incorrect. While certain molecular elements may be necessary to support life, how gravity effects those chemical reactions is untested (as far as my latest versions of Popular Science and their ilk have published). If life were supportable on Jupiter, for example, its gravity and other aspects would drastically effect how such life would express itself. Also, I think people are generally arrogant (like how we create god(s) generally in our own image or in the images of things we have experienced). I think we are severely limited by our own senses–dogs and whales,for instance, can hear frequencies, high and low, that we can’t. To think that other beings will have experiences like we do or will form genetically and molecularly like we do is close minded and arrogant. IMHO. [/quote]
Not only that but in 100 years we will have the information to change the humane genome to pretty much what we want. Higher IQ’s, immune to sickness, solidly Republican (g) etc.
Just imagine a race 10000 years ahead. They have changed their genes so much that there no telling how they operate.
John
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