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May 4, 2011 at 1:02 PM #693386May 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM #692239
SK in CV
ParticipantIn general, I agree with most of those points. Just a few items to quibble with.
4. “Free” money from the Fed is causing speculation.
It’s probably more appropriate to say that cheap money from the fed is facilitating the speculation. Low interest rates do not make anyone speculate.
5. It’s a way for the Fed to help the banks to make up housing losses.
I’m not sure even what this is referring to. I don’t now what “It’s” is. Low fed rates? If so, probably close enough for government work.
On a related topic that seems to be all over CNBC these days is the gold and silver prices. Item 4 probably contributes to that too. My peeve about the discussion is that many so called experts attempt to differentiate between investors and speculators. There is no difference. Unless you’re a jeweler (or some other industrial user of gold or silver, where it’s a logical hedge), gold and silver are ALWAYS speculative investments. They have no intrinsic value (exceptions noted). They do not pay dividends, no earnings multiples, no earnings growth. They do not “produce” profits. It is a pure speculative play on future prices. Arguing any differently is either disengenuous or idiotic.
May 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM #692315SK in CV
ParticipantIn general, I agree with most of those points. Just a few items to quibble with.
4. “Free” money from the Fed is causing speculation.
It’s probably more appropriate to say that cheap money from the fed is facilitating the speculation. Low interest rates do not make anyone speculate.
5. It’s a way for the Fed to help the banks to make up housing losses.
I’m not sure even what this is referring to. I don’t now what “It’s” is. Low fed rates? If so, probably close enough for government work.
On a related topic that seems to be all over CNBC these days is the gold and silver prices. Item 4 probably contributes to that too. My peeve about the discussion is that many so called experts attempt to differentiate between investors and speculators. There is no difference. Unless you’re a jeweler (or some other industrial user of gold or silver, where it’s a logical hedge), gold and silver are ALWAYS speculative investments. They have no intrinsic value (exceptions noted). They do not pay dividends, no earnings multiples, no earnings growth. They do not “produce” profits. It is a pure speculative play on future prices. Arguing any differently is either disengenuous or idiotic.
May 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM #692915SK in CV
ParticipantIn general, I agree with most of those points. Just a few items to quibble with.
4. “Free” money from the Fed is causing speculation.
It’s probably more appropriate to say that cheap money from the fed is facilitating the speculation. Low interest rates do not make anyone speculate.
5. It’s a way for the Fed to help the banks to make up housing losses.
I’m not sure even what this is referring to. I don’t now what “It’s” is. Low fed rates? If so, probably close enough for government work.
On a related topic that seems to be all over CNBC these days is the gold and silver prices. Item 4 probably contributes to that too. My peeve about the discussion is that many so called experts attempt to differentiate between investors and speculators. There is no difference. Unless you’re a jeweler (or some other industrial user of gold or silver, where it’s a logical hedge), gold and silver are ALWAYS speculative investments. They have no intrinsic value (exceptions noted). They do not pay dividends, no earnings multiples, no earnings growth. They do not “produce” profits. It is a pure speculative play on future prices. Arguing any differently is either disengenuous or idiotic.
May 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM #693062SK in CV
ParticipantIn general, I agree with most of those points. Just a few items to quibble with.
4. “Free” money from the Fed is causing speculation.
It’s probably more appropriate to say that cheap money from the fed is facilitating the speculation. Low interest rates do not make anyone speculate.
5. It’s a way for the Fed to help the banks to make up housing losses.
I’m not sure even what this is referring to. I don’t now what “It’s” is. Low fed rates? If so, probably close enough for government work.
On a related topic that seems to be all over CNBC these days is the gold and silver prices. Item 4 probably contributes to that too. My peeve about the discussion is that many so called experts attempt to differentiate between investors and speculators. There is no difference. Unless you’re a jeweler (or some other industrial user of gold or silver, where it’s a logical hedge), gold and silver are ALWAYS speculative investments. They have no intrinsic value (exceptions noted). They do not pay dividends, no earnings multiples, no earnings growth. They do not “produce” profits. It is a pure speculative play on future prices. Arguing any differently is either disengenuous or idiotic.
May 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM #693412SK in CV
ParticipantIn general, I agree with most of those points. Just a few items to quibble with.
4. “Free” money from the Fed is causing speculation.
It’s probably more appropriate to say that cheap money from the fed is facilitating the speculation. Low interest rates do not make anyone speculate.
5. It’s a way for the Fed to help the banks to make up housing losses.
I’m not sure even what this is referring to. I don’t now what “It’s” is. Low fed rates? If so, probably close enough for government work.
On a related topic that seems to be all over CNBC these days is the gold and silver prices. Item 4 probably contributes to that too. My peeve about the discussion is that many so called experts attempt to differentiate between investors and speculators. There is no difference. Unless you’re a jeweler (or some other industrial user of gold or silver, where it’s a logical hedge), gold and silver are ALWAYS speculative investments. They have no intrinsic value (exceptions noted). They do not pay dividends, no earnings multiples, no earnings growth. They do not “produce” profits. It is a pure speculative play on future prices. Arguing any differently is either disengenuous or idiotic.
May 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM #692352scaredyclassic
ParticipantNo intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. It’s a nice thing.
May 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM #692429scaredyclassic
ParticipantNo intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. It’s a nice thing.
May 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM #693030scaredyclassic
ParticipantNo intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. It’s a nice thing.
May 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM #693175scaredyclassic
ParticipantNo intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. It’s a nice thing.
May 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM #693527scaredyclassic
ParticipantNo intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. It’s a nice thing.
May 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM #692357Arraya
Participant[quote=walterwhite]No intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. [/quote]
Oil – other natural resources – but energy is the king
May 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM #692434Arraya
Participant[quote=walterwhite]No intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. [/quote]
Oil – other natural resources – but energy is the king
May 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM #693035Arraya
Participant[quote=walterwhite]No intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. [/quote]
Oil – other natural resources – but energy is the king
May 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM #693180Arraya
Participant[quote=walterwhite]No intrinsic value? What does have “intrinsic” value, if not gold. [/quote]
Oil – other natural resources – but energy is the king
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