ObamaCare…coming soon

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Somebody does.

[quote=afx114]Does anybody have any data on how many people stay in their current job simply because of their healthcare? How much does employer-provided healthcare hinder worker mobility? Would you personally be more likely to search for a different job if your healthcare was not tied to your current employer?[/quote]

There was a good article in last week’s USN&WP covering this issue. From that article:

Most workers—about 60 percent—get their health insurance through their employers, and as health premiums have spiraled, those benefits have become highly valuable to most. Nearly a quarter of top-performing employees said healthcare benefits were one of the top three reasons they would leave an employer, and two thirds said healthcare benefits were an important reason to stay with a company, according to a 2006 Watson Wyatt study. Last year, 78 percent of finance and accounting workers surveyed by the Mergis Group viewed healthcare benefits as “most crucial to retaining them.”

http://www.usnews.com/articles/business/careers/2009/08/05/will-health-reform-free-workers-from-job-lock.html

I looked for the actual Watson Wyatt study that the artical references, I couldn’t find it.

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I wonder how much of a drag on our economy that creates. Seems like it stifles mobility (of the upward type) for those who would like to move on to better pastures. Do the career patterns of people in countries whose healthcare isn’t tied to their jobs differ much? Seems like one less reason to stay at a company would force said company to work harder to retain their employees in the form of other compensation (vacation, work environment, perks, etc). Furthermore, how much money would businesses (both small and large alike) save if they didn’t have to provide healthcare for their employees?

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I wonder how much of a drag on our economy that creates. Seems like it stifles mobility (of the upward type) for those who would like to move on to better pastures. Do the career patterns of people in countries whose healthcare isn’t tied to their jobs differ much? Seems like one less reason to stay at a company would force said company to work harder to retain their employees in the form of other compensation (vacation, work environment, perks, etc). Furthermore, how much money would businesses (both small and large alike) save if they didn’t have to provide healthcare for their employees?

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I wonder how much of a drag on our economy that creates. Seems like it stifles mobility (of the upward type) for those who would like to move on to better pastures. Do the career patterns of people in countries whose healthcare isn’t tied to their jobs differ much? Seems like one less reason to stay at a company would force said company to work harder to retain their employees in the form of other compensation (vacation, work environment, perks, etc). Furthermore, how much money would businesses (both small and large alike) save if they didn’t have to provide healthcare for their employees?

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I wonder how much of a drag on our economy that creates. Seems like it stifles mobility (of the upward type) for those who would like to move on to better pastures. Do the career patterns of people in countries whose healthcare isn’t tied to their jobs differ much? Seems like one less reason to stay at a company would force said company to work harder to retain their employees in the form of other compensation (vacation, work environment, perks, etc). Furthermore, how much money would businesses (both small and large alike) save if they didn’t have to provide healthcare for their employees?

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I wonder how much of a drag on our economy that creates. Seems like it stifles mobility (of the upward type) for those who would like to move on to better pastures. Do the career patterns of people in countries whose healthcare isn’t tied to their jobs differ much? Seems like one less reason to stay at a company would force said company to work harder to retain their employees in the form of other compensation (vacation, work environment, perks, etc). Furthermore, how much money would businesses (both small and large alike) save if they didn’t have to provide healthcare for their employees?

[Veritas]

Health Alert • Uninsured | Uninsured by Choice
Dec 13, 2006
by John Goodman

At least 44% of the uninsured are uninsured by choice, and the number could be much higher than that. An Urban Institute study found that:

* One in every four uninsured persons is eligible for Medicaid or SChip, but has not enrolled.
* One in five has a family income in excess of $58,000 and presumably can afford coverage.

http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/uninsured-by-choice/

[Veritas]

Health Alert • Uninsured | Uninsured by Choice
Dec 13, 2006
by John Goodman

At least 44% of the uninsured are uninsured by choice, and the number could be much higher than that. An Urban Institute study found that:

* One in every four uninsured persons is eligible for Medicaid or SChip, but has not enrolled.
* One in five has a family income in excess of $58,000 and presumably can afford coverage.

http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/uninsured-by-choice/

[Veritas]

Health Alert • Uninsured | Uninsured by Choice
Dec 13, 2006
by John Goodman

At least 44% of the uninsured are uninsured by choice, and the number could be much higher than that. An Urban Institute study found that:

* One in every four uninsured persons is eligible for Medicaid or SChip, but has not enrolled.
* One in five has a family income in excess of $58,000 and presumably can afford coverage.

http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/uninsured-by-choice/

[Veritas]

Health Alert • Uninsured | Uninsured by Choice
Dec 13, 2006
by John Goodman

At least 44% of the uninsured are uninsured by choice, and the number could be much higher than that. An Urban Institute study found that:

* One in every four uninsured persons is eligible for Medicaid or SChip, but has not enrolled.
* One in five has a family income in excess of $58,000 and presumably can afford coverage.

http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/uninsured-by-choice/

[Veritas]

Health Alert • Uninsured | Uninsured by Choice
Dec 13, 2006
by John Goodman

At least 44% of the uninsured are uninsured by choice, and the number could be much higher than that. An Urban Institute study found that:

* One in every four uninsured persons is eligible for Medicaid or SChip, but has not enrolled.
* One in five has a family income in excess of $58,000 and presumably can afford coverage.

http://www.john-goodman-blog.com/uninsured-by-choice/

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Why do Republicans think we as a country are too stupid to insure all of our citizens and for less money? Why do Republicans let France shame us when they can insure all of their citizens for 9% of GDP while we only insure 80% of our citizens while paying 17% of GDP?

France rates #1 in overall health care while the Greatest Country on Earth rates #37.

Ofcourse due to the opposition Obama never persued the single payer option that could have saved this country hundreds of billions, instead he went after this more expensive system and even though it pretty much keeps the status quo Republicans have gone rabid.

If you have plenty of money the U.S. health care is #1 by far. Rush Limpbrain and Shaun Insanity both get #1 health care. They are deathly afraid their tax rate may go up so that a 25 year old single mother with cancer can get the proper care. Rush and Shaun are actually upset that insurance companies will no longer be able to deny or charge higher premiums for someone with a pre existing condition (and they are quite often at an economic disadvantage because of their illness). They equate it with good drivers and bad drivers and if everyone pays the same rate the good drivers will become sloppy drivers. (stupid huh?) How can anyone in their right mind equate car insurance with health insurance? Well, Rush and Shame are not in their right mind of course.

The best example of Republican thinking is this caller on a talk show. He said he was a “Minister” and a Republican. He said, “if people want health care they should go to school, get an education so they can’t get the kind of job that provides health care”.

For my fellow thinkers out there you will see the stupidity in that statement right away (education is always good) however the Ditto heads are saying “RIGHT ON”.

[sobmaz]

Why do Republicans think we as a country are too stupid to insure all of our citizens and for less money? Why do Republicans let France shame us when they can insure all of their citizens for 9% of GDP while we only insure 80% of our citizens while paying 17% of GDP?

France rates #1 in overall health care while the Greatest Country on Earth rates #37.

Ofcourse due to the opposition Obama never persued the single payer option that could have saved this country hundreds of billions, instead he went after this more expensive system and even though it pretty much keeps the status quo Republicans have gone rabid.

If you have plenty of money the U.S. health care is #1 by far. Rush Limpbrain and Shaun Insanity both get #1 health care. They are deathly afraid their tax rate may go up so that a 25 year old single mother with cancer can get the proper care. Rush and Shaun are actually upset that insurance companies will no longer be able to deny or charge higher premiums for someone with a pre existing condition (and they are quite often at an economic disadvantage because of their illness). They equate it with good drivers and bad drivers and if everyone pays the same rate the good drivers will become sloppy drivers. (stupid huh?) How can anyone in their right mind equate car insurance with health insurance? Well, Rush and Shame are not in their right mind of course.

The best example of Republican thinking is this caller on a talk show. He said he was a “Minister” and a Republican. He said, “if people want health care they should go to school, get an education so they can’t get the kind of job that provides health care”.

For my fellow thinkers out there you will see the stupidity in that statement right away (education is always good) however the Ditto heads are saying “RIGHT ON”.

[sobmaz]

Why do Republicans think we as a country are too stupid to insure all of our citizens and for less money? Why do Republicans let France shame us when they can insure all of their citizens for 9% of GDP while we only insure 80% of our citizens while paying 17% of GDP?

France rates #1 in overall health care while the Greatest Country on Earth rates #37.

Ofcourse due to the opposition Obama never persued the single payer option that could have saved this country hundreds of billions, instead he went after this more expensive system and even though it pretty much keeps the status quo Republicans have gone rabid.

If you have plenty of money the U.S. health care is #1 by far. Rush Limpbrain and Shaun Insanity both get #1 health care. They are deathly afraid their tax rate may go up so that a 25 year old single mother with cancer can get the proper care. Rush and Shaun are actually upset that insurance companies will no longer be able to deny or charge higher premiums for someone with a pre existing condition (and they are quite often at an economic disadvantage because of their illness). They equate it with good drivers and bad drivers and if everyone pays the same rate the good drivers will become sloppy drivers. (stupid huh?) How can anyone in their right mind equate car insurance with health insurance? Well, Rush and Shame are not in their right mind of course.

The best example of Republican thinking is this caller on a talk show. He said he was a “Minister” and a Republican. He said, “if people want health care they should go to school, get an education so they can’t get the kind of job that provides health care”.

For my fellow thinkers out there you will see the stupidity in that statement right away (education is always good) however the Ditto heads are saying “RIGHT ON”.

[sobmaz]

Why do Republicans think we as a country are too stupid to insure all of our citizens and for less money? Why do Republicans let France shame us when they can insure all of their citizens for 9% of GDP while we only insure 80% of our citizens while paying 17% of GDP?

France rates #1 in overall health care while the Greatest Country on Earth rates #37.

Ofcourse due to the opposition Obama never persued the single payer option that could have saved this country hundreds of billions, instead he went after this more expensive system and even though it pretty much keeps the status quo Republicans have gone rabid.

If you have plenty of money the U.S. health care is #1 by far. Rush Limpbrain and Shaun Insanity both get #1 health care. They are deathly afraid their tax rate may go up so that a 25 year old single mother with cancer can get the proper care. Rush and Shaun are actually upset that insurance companies will no longer be able to deny or charge higher premiums for someone with a pre existing condition (and they are quite often at an economic disadvantage because of their illness). They equate it with good drivers and bad drivers and if everyone pays the same rate the good drivers will become sloppy drivers. (stupid huh?) How can anyone in their right mind equate car insurance with health insurance? Well, Rush and Shame are not in their right mind of course.

The best example of Republican thinking is this caller on a talk show. He said he was a “Minister” and a Republican. He said, “if people want health care they should go to school, get an education so they can’t get the kind of job that provides health care”.

For my fellow thinkers out there you will see the stupidity in that statement right away (education is always good) however the Ditto heads are saying “RIGHT ON”.

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