ObamaCare…coming soon

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[quote=Dukehorn]COBRA is very expensive. Don’t plan on using it when you’re umemployed for long.

As for this “debate”, I always wonder why people arguing against universial healthcare always manage to ignore the children.

Is it your contention that kids should be punished for the “crime” that their parents are poor or unemployed? Remember that kid that died from his cavities in DC (two years ago) because his mom couldn’t afford dental care. Is that what we’re saying “tough luck”?

How is this scenario any different than saying to the child of a sexual predator “tough luck kid, you’re born to a sexual deviant and deserved to be abused”.

Right? The logic is as follows “tough luck kid, you’re born to parents without health insurance and deserve what you get”.

Compassionate my arse……[/quote]

well said.

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[quote=Dukehorn]COBRA is very expensive. [/quote]

COBRA costs what insurance costs. Whatever the employer paid for the insurance is what the employee pays for the insurance, plus a maximum of 2%. If the employer had an expensive plan, then continuing with COBRA is expensive. If the employer had a cheap plan, the it’s not so much.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Dukehorn]COBRA is very expensive. [/quote]

COBRA costs what insurance costs. Whatever the employer paid for the insurance is what the employee pays for the insurance, plus a maximum of 2%. If the employer had an expensive plan, then continuing with COBRA is expensive. If the employer had a cheap plan, the it’s not so much.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Dukehorn]COBRA is very expensive. [/quote]

COBRA costs what insurance costs. Whatever the employer paid for the insurance is what the employee pays for the insurance, plus a maximum of 2%. If the employer had an expensive plan, then continuing with COBRA is expensive. If the employer had a cheap plan, the it’s not so much.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Dukehorn]COBRA is very expensive. [/quote]

COBRA costs what insurance costs. Whatever the employer paid for the insurance is what the employee pays for the insurance, plus a maximum of 2%. If the employer had an expensive plan, then continuing with COBRA is expensive. If the employer had a cheap plan, the it’s not so much.

[SK in CV]

[quote=Dukehorn]COBRA is very expensive. [/quote]

COBRA costs what insurance costs. Whatever the employer paid for the insurance is what the employee pays for the insurance, plus a maximum of 2%. If the employer had an expensive plan, then continuing with COBRA is expensive. If the employer had a cheap plan, the it’s not so much.

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This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.

[Veritas]

This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.

[Veritas]

This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.

[Veritas]

This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.

[Veritas]

This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.

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[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]

OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?

South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.

Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?

As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?

I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.

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[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]

OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?

South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.

Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?

As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?

I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.

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[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]

OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?

South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.

Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?

As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?

I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.

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[quote=Veritas]This will be COBRA on steroids, very expensive for the middle class, who will be carrying the people who cannot afford it. As for sleeping with a gun. Check out response times to calls for service. Maybe a lot more people take care of their safety than you would like to admit. As for roads, good grief. All the deferred maintenance the local governments have robbed the road repair funds and put it into pensions. Yeah. The government is going to make health care affordable. Right. You are delusional if you believe this brand of government is any better than eight years of Bush and 8 years of Clinton. Why don’t you study the issues posted by flu and understand that what few liberties remain will be eroded by this dangerous piece of legislation.[/quote]

OK ok. So tell me something. What is South Korea doing that we can’t do?

South Korea is the least wealthy of developed or semi-developed nations (Western Europe/Japan/Canada/South Korea) that are providing national health care.

Last I checked COBRA for family of 4 was something like $1000/month. Which part of the plan will add $1000/month to a 4-member family’s budget?

As for gun/police response time, I don’t see any middle class people driving around in armored cars here like they do in Brazil. Have you driven on ‘roads’ in Tijuana?

I don’t want to be enslaved to the tyranny of fear of living with no affordable health care. Yes, I want my liberty, from the tyranny of private health insurance industry.

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