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July 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM #435878July 23, 2009 at 12:13 PM #435765SK in CVParticipant
[quote=GH]The most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.[/quote]
It does sound like a pretty hefty bill for a family of 4 making between $25 and $50K a year. Except the likelihood of them being subject to that fine is pretty slim. If, by chance, their employer isn’t required to pick up part of their insurance bill, they would be eligible for assistance in paying the premiums. (Those making up to 4x the poverty level income will receive assistance.)
July 23, 2009 at 12:13 PM #435972SK in CVParticipant[quote=GH]The most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.[/quote]
It does sound like a pretty hefty bill for a family of 4 making between $25 and $50K a year. Except the likelihood of them being subject to that fine is pretty slim. If, by chance, their employer isn’t required to pick up part of their insurance bill, they would be eligible for assistance in paying the premiums. (Those making up to 4x the poverty level income will receive assistance.)
July 23, 2009 at 12:13 PM #436291SK in CVParticipant[quote=GH]The most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.[/quote]
It does sound like a pretty hefty bill for a family of 4 making between $25 and $50K a year. Except the likelihood of them being subject to that fine is pretty slim. If, by chance, their employer isn’t required to pick up part of their insurance bill, they would be eligible for assistance in paying the premiums. (Those making up to 4x the poverty level income will receive assistance.)
July 23, 2009 at 12:13 PM #436364SK in CVParticipant[quote=GH]The most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.[/quote]
It does sound like a pretty hefty bill for a family of 4 making between $25 and $50K a year. Except the likelihood of them being subject to that fine is pretty slim. If, by chance, their employer isn’t required to pick up part of their insurance bill, they would be eligible for assistance in paying the premiums. (Those making up to 4x the poverty level income will receive assistance.)
July 23, 2009 at 12:13 PM #436533SK in CVParticipant[quote=GH]The most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.[/quote]
It does sound like a pretty hefty bill for a family of 4 making between $25 and $50K a year. Except the likelihood of them being subject to that fine is pretty slim. If, by chance, their employer isn’t required to pick up part of their insurance bill, they would be eligible for assistance in paying the premiums. (Those making up to 4x the poverty level income will receive assistance.)
July 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM #4357704plexownerParticipantlet’s see, the current plan (in typical socialist fashion) is to tax the rich to pay for the new health care coverage
who has to approve the new legislation? Congress
what type of people sit in Congress these days? Rich people
oops – rock, meet hard spot
the legislation that eventually passes, if it does, will NOT tax the rich to pay for new coverage
July 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM #4359774plexownerParticipantlet’s see, the current plan (in typical socialist fashion) is to tax the rich to pay for the new health care coverage
who has to approve the new legislation? Congress
what type of people sit in Congress these days? Rich people
oops – rock, meet hard spot
the legislation that eventually passes, if it does, will NOT tax the rich to pay for new coverage
July 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM #4362964plexownerParticipantlet’s see, the current plan (in typical socialist fashion) is to tax the rich to pay for the new health care coverage
who has to approve the new legislation? Congress
what type of people sit in Congress these days? Rich people
oops – rock, meet hard spot
the legislation that eventually passes, if it does, will NOT tax the rich to pay for new coverage
July 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM #4363694plexownerParticipantlet’s see, the current plan (in typical socialist fashion) is to tax the rich to pay for the new health care coverage
who has to approve the new legislation? Congress
what type of people sit in Congress these days? Rich people
oops – rock, meet hard spot
the legislation that eventually passes, if it does, will NOT tax the rich to pay for new coverage
July 23, 2009 at 12:16 PM #4365384plexownerParticipantlet’s see, the current plan (in typical socialist fashion) is to tax the rich to pay for the new health care coverage
who has to approve the new legislation? Congress
what type of people sit in Congress these days? Rich people
oops – rock, meet hard spot
the legislation that eventually passes, if it does, will NOT tax the rich to pay for new coverage
July 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM #435775SK in CVParticipantKarl Rove is a liar.
[quote=Zeitgeist]
“Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. [/quote]Most small business owners don’t earn $280,000 to $350,000 or more. Not even close to most. But Rove has never been one to let facts get in the way of his agenda. Just another Rove version of “terrorism”. This time insurance is “terrorism”. The guy has been wrong so many times, it’s amazing anyone still pays attention to him. Tough competition between him and Bill Kristol for the “least relevant person on the face of the earth”.
July 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM #435982SK in CVParticipantKarl Rove is a liar.
[quote=Zeitgeist]
“Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. [/quote]Most small business owners don’t earn $280,000 to $350,000 or more. Not even close to most. But Rove has never been one to let facts get in the way of his agenda. Just another Rove version of “terrorism”. This time insurance is “terrorism”. The guy has been wrong so many times, it’s amazing anyone still pays attention to him. Tough competition between him and Bill Kristol for the “least relevant person on the face of the earth”.
July 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM #436301SK in CVParticipantKarl Rove is a liar.
[quote=Zeitgeist]
“Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. [/quote]Most small business owners don’t earn $280,000 to $350,000 or more. Not even close to most. But Rove has never been one to let facts get in the way of his agenda. Just another Rove version of “terrorism”. This time insurance is “terrorism”. The guy has been wrong so many times, it’s amazing anyone still pays attention to him. Tough competition between him and Bill Kristol for the “least relevant person on the face of the earth”.
July 23, 2009 at 12:19 PM #436374SK in CVParticipantKarl Rove is a liar.
[quote=Zeitgeist]
“Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. [/quote]Most small business owners don’t earn $280,000 to $350,000 or more. Not even close to most. But Rove has never been one to let facts get in the way of his agenda. Just another Rove version of “terrorism”. This time insurance is “terrorism”. The guy has been wrong so many times, it’s amazing anyone still pays attention to him. Tough competition between him and Bill Kristol for the “least relevant person on the face of the earth”.
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