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July 22, 2009 at 11:00 AM #435843July 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM #435092
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ParticipantThe most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.
July 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM #435298ParticipantThe most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.
July 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM #435615ParticipantThe most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.
July 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM #435689ParticipantThe most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.
July 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM #435858ParticipantThe most likely health bill to pass will include a fine for (the rich) – earners over $16K a year of around $750 each. This sounds like a BIG tax increase on wage earners between $25K and $50K who are barely meeting their current obligations or rent and car payments etc in more expensive areas of the country. I have not heard how much health insurance will cost these families, but a partially employed family of 4 could easily end up with a $3,000 fine each year in additional IRS taxes for failing to pay some undetermined amount in health insurance premiums. This does not sound constitutional to me, and most certainly is not the NO taxes we were promised for earners under $250K a year. I had this administration pegged as Bush 2 from the get go.
July 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #435081an
Participant[quote=Rt.66]AN you are a riot!
Most of us keep reading about businesses closing or going bankrupt. I guess they don’t know what AN knows huh?
Do you even know how much your healthcare premiums have gone up in the past 10 years (yes, we’d like you to include the portion your employer pays)?[/quote]
Oh quick, someone tell Apple their record earning and profit is fake. $15k tax credit, here I come. Thank you Rt.66 for paying for it. :-).BTW, Linky, based on CNN’s article, “At the same time, workers with insurance through their employers are not likely to see lower premiums, Elmendorf told lawmakers last week. In fact, at least initially, their premiums may continue to increase apace as they have for years.”
July 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #435288Participant[quote=Rt.66]AN you are a riot!
Most of us keep reading about businesses closing or going bankrupt. I guess they don’t know what AN knows huh?
Do you even know how much your healthcare premiums have gone up in the past 10 years (yes, we’d like you to include the portion your employer pays)?[/quote]
Oh quick, someone tell Apple their record earning and profit is fake. $15k tax credit, here I come. Thank you Rt.66 for paying for it. :-).BTW, Linky, based on CNN’s article, “At the same time, workers with insurance through their employers are not likely to see lower premiums, Elmendorf told lawmakers last week. In fact, at least initially, their premiums may continue to increase apace as they have for years.”
July 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #435605Participant[quote=Rt.66]AN you are a riot!
Most of us keep reading about businesses closing or going bankrupt. I guess they don’t know what AN knows huh?
Do you even know how much your healthcare premiums have gone up in the past 10 years (yes, we’d like you to include the portion your employer pays)?[/quote]
Oh quick, someone tell Apple their record earning and profit is fake. $15k tax credit, here I come. Thank you Rt.66 for paying for it. :-).BTW, Linky, based on CNN’s article, “At the same time, workers with insurance through their employers are not likely to see lower premiums, Elmendorf told lawmakers last week. In fact, at least initially, their premiums may continue to increase apace as they have for years.”
July 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #435679Participant[quote=Rt.66]AN you are a riot!
Most of us keep reading about businesses closing or going bankrupt. I guess they don’t know what AN knows huh?
Do you even know how much your healthcare premiums have gone up in the past 10 years (yes, we’d like you to include the portion your employer pays)?[/quote]
Oh quick, someone tell Apple their record earning and profit is fake. $15k tax credit, here I come. Thank you Rt.66 for paying for it. :-).BTW, Linky, based on CNN’s article, “At the same time, workers with insurance through their employers are not likely to see lower premiums, Elmendorf told lawmakers last week. In fact, at least initially, their premiums may continue to increase apace as they have for years.”
July 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #435848Participant[quote=Rt.66]AN you are a riot!
Most of us keep reading about businesses closing or going bankrupt. I guess they don’t know what AN knows huh?
Do you even know how much your healthcare premiums have gone up in the past 10 years (yes, we’d like you to include the portion your employer pays)?[/quote]
Oh quick, someone tell Apple their record earning and profit is fake. $15k tax credit, here I come. Thank you Rt.66 for paying for it. :-).BTW, Linky, based on CNN’s article, “At the same time, workers with insurance through their employers are not likely to see lower premiums, Elmendorf told lawmakers last week. In fact, at least initially, their premiums may continue to increase apace as they have for years.”
July 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM #435112Zeitgeist
Participant“WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hours before President Barack Obama holds a prime time news conference to push for health care reform, a new CNN Poll of Polls indicates that less than half the country approves of how he’s handling the issue.”
“According to the CNN Poll of Polls, 47 percent approve of how the president’s dealing with health care reform, with 44 percent disapproving.”
Calls to Congress are running 15 to 1 against the bill! Support in his own party is crumbling!
“…the most damaging news came from Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Director Douglas Elmendorf, who said last week that the White House’s health-care proposals would not ‘reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount.’ This shattered the central claim Mr. Obama has been making: that his health-care plan controls costs. In a July 17 letter, Mr. Elmendorf added that the House’s health-care bill would result in a ‘net increase in the federal budget deficit of $239 billion’ over 10 years. That’s likely a low-ball estimate because it assumes that Congress will increase taxes by $583 billion over the next decade.”
“Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. Even Democrats don’t like that approach: 21 of 39 freshmen House Democrats penned a letter opposing the tax hike. Many are among the 66 Democrats from districts that either Mr. Bush or John McCain carried in recent presidential elections. Mr. Obama shrugged off the letter by saying that the surtax would only force some to pay ‘a little bit more.’”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574304161389163586.html#mod=article-outset-boxJuly 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM #435318Participant“WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hours before President Barack Obama holds a prime time news conference to push for health care reform, a new CNN Poll of Polls indicates that less than half the country approves of how he’s handling the issue.”
“According to the CNN Poll of Polls, 47 percent approve of how the president’s dealing with health care reform, with 44 percent disapproving.”
Calls to Congress are running 15 to 1 against the bill! Support in his own party is crumbling!
“…the most damaging news came from Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Director Douglas Elmendorf, who said last week that the White House’s health-care proposals would not ‘reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount.’ This shattered the central claim Mr. Obama has been making: that his health-care plan controls costs. In a July 17 letter, Mr. Elmendorf added that the House’s health-care bill would result in a ‘net increase in the federal budget deficit of $239 billion’ over 10 years. That’s likely a low-ball estimate because it assumes that Congress will increase taxes by $583 billion over the next decade.”
“Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. Even Democrats don’t like that approach: 21 of 39 freshmen House Democrats penned a letter opposing the tax hike. Many are among the 66 Democrats from districts that either Mr. Bush or John McCain carried in recent presidential elections. Mr. Obama shrugged off the letter by saying that the surtax would only force some to pay ‘a little bit more.’”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574304161389163586.html#mod=article-outset-boxJuly 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM #435635Participant“WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hours before President Barack Obama holds a prime time news conference to push for health care reform, a new CNN Poll of Polls indicates that less than half the country approves of how he’s handling the issue.”
“According to the CNN Poll of Polls, 47 percent approve of how the president’s dealing with health care reform, with 44 percent disapproving.”
Calls to Congress are running 15 to 1 against the bill! Support in his own party is crumbling!
“…the most damaging news came from Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Director Douglas Elmendorf, who said last week that the White House’s health-care proposals would not ‘reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount.’ This shattered the central claim Mr. Obama has been making: that his health-care plan controls costs. In a July 17 letter, Mr. Elmendorf added that the House’s health-care bill would result in a ‘net increase in the federal budget deficit of $239 billion’ over 10 years. That’s likely a low-ball estimate because it assumes that Congress will increase taxes by $583 billion over the next decade.”
“Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. Even Democrats don’t like that approach: 21 of 39 freshmen House Democrats penned a letter opposing the tax hike. Many are among the 66 Democrats from districts that either Mr. Bush or John McCain carried in recent presidential elections. Mr. Obama shrugged off the letter by saying that the surtax would only force some to pay ‘a little bit more.’”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574304161389163586.html#mod=article-outset-boxJuly 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM #435709Participant“WASHINGTON (CNN) – Hours before President Barack Obama holds a prime time news conference to push for health care reform, a new CNN Poll of Polls indicates that less than half the country approves of how he’s handling the issue.”
“According to the CNN Poll of Polls, 47 percent approve of how the president’s dealing with health care reform, with 44 percent disapproving.”
Calls to Congress are running 15 to 1 against the bill! Support in his own party is crumbling!
“…the most damaging news came from Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Director Douglas Elmendorf, who said last week that the White House’s health-care proposals would not ‘reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount.’ This shattered the central claim Mr. Obama has been making: that his health-care plan controls costs. In a July 17 letter, Mr. Elmendorf added that the House’s health-care bill would result in a ‘net increase in the federal budget deficit of $239 billion’ over 10 years. That’s likely a low-ball estimate because it assumes that Congress will increase taxes by $583 billion over the next decade.”
“Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel says he’ll pay for the Obama health proposal by raising taxes on Americans making $280,000 a year ($350,000 for couples). Most of those stuck with higher taxes will be small business owners. Even Democrats don’t like that approach: 21 of 39 freshmen House Democrats penned a letter opposing the tax hike. Many are among the 66 Democrats from districts that either Mr. Bush or John McCain carried in recent presidential elections. Mr. Obama shrugged off the letter by saying that the surtax would only force some to pay ‘a little bit more.’”
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