ObamaCare…coming soon

[sd_matt]

Anyone listen to the speech Obama gave a couple days ago? You know, the one where he got heckled? “You Lie!”

Funny coincidence, Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.

With little snags like this is it any wonder we cant get get stuff done in Congress? And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.

[KSMountain]

[quote=sd_matt]

Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.

And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]

Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.

Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.

Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.

Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.

I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…

Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?

[KSMountain]

[quote=sd_matt]

Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.

And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]

Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.

Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.

Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.

Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.

I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…

Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?

[KSMountain]

[quote=sd_matt]

Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.

And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]

Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.

Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.

Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.

Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.

I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…

Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?

[KSMountain]

[quote=sd_matt]

Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.

And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]

Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.

Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.

Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.

Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.

I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…

Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?

[KSMountain]

[quote=sd_matt]

Wilson was correct about the “Lie” The enforcement (SAVE) mechanism was voted out in a committee.

And that little catch is not discussed in the mainstream media,well maybe Fox, I don’t watch tv very much. But everyone else is sayin stuff like “Obama struggles to pass health care…”, “The Dems working hard to reform…” and on and on.[/quote]

Right sd_matt. Isn’t it amazing how you can phrase a sentence that at first blush seems innocuous and neutral but in reality it biases the reader before they’re even halfway through it? There’s a lot of that in the media if you look for it, and then once you know how to look for it gets really disappointing after awhile.

Regarding the “catch”, it’s somewhat of a moot point whether illegals can get the new insurance, cuz they can already go to the e-room for free.

Other than the moral aspects, does the extreme left ever look at the big picture and think about the implications of free medical care on demand combined with open borders? We’d effectively be saying we’ll pay for the entire world’s healthcare if only they can here.

Are we really so wealthy that we afford that? Further the costs go disproportionally to california and californians if I understand corectly.

I’d be interested to hear the opinions of NavyDoc on this…

Is there a way to have both compassion and solvency?

[Dukehorn]

The 2nd “retelling” of Nikki White and how an educated 32 year old could die in the US from lupus complications due to the difficulty of getting healthcare.

Any easy way to analyze her missteps?

As for France, here’s a commonly quoted stat:

France spends 11 percent of its gross domestic product on health care and insures everyone and the United States spends 16.5 percent of G.D.P. and leaves 20 percent of adults under 65 uninsured.

Now let’s match it with longevity:

France is 80.98
US is 78.11

Less GDP for more longevity that includes both private and public options? Why not take a look at it?

Now to accomplish what France does, we’ll probably need tort reform to reduce the insurance premiums that doctors face.

[Dukehorn]

The 2nd “retelling” of Nikki White and how an educated 32 year old could die in the US from lupus complications due to the difficulty of getting healthcare.

Any easy way to analyze her missteps?

As for France, here’s a commonly quoted stat:

France spends 11 percent of its gross domestic product on health care and insures everyone and the United States spends 16.5 percent of G.D.P. and leaves 20 percent of adults under 65 uninsured.

Now let’s match it with longevity:

France is 80.98
US is 78.11

Less GDP for more longevity that includes both private and public options? Why not take a look at it?

Now to accomplish what France does, we’ll probably need tort reform to reduce the insurance premiums that doctors face.

[Dukehorn]

The 2nd “retelling” of Nikki White and how an educated 32 year old could die in the US from lupus complications due to the difficulty of getting healthcare.

Any easy way to analyze her missteps?

As for France, here’s a commonly quoted stat:

France spends 11 percent of its gross domestic product on health care and insures everyone and the United States spends 16.5 percent of G.D.P. and leaves 20 percent of adults under 65 uninsured.

Now let’s match it with longevity:

France is 80.98
US is 78.11

Less GDP for more longevity that includes both private and public options? Why not take a look at it?

Now to accomplish what France does, we’ll probably need tort reform to reduce the insurance premiums that doctors face.

[Dukehorn]

The 2nd “retelling” of Nikki White and how an educated 32 year old could die in the US from lupus complications due to the difficulty of getting healthcare.

Any easy way to analyze her missteps?

As for France, here’s a commonly quoted stat:

France spends 11 percent of its gross domestic product on health care and insures everyone and the United States spends 16.5 percent of G.D.P. and leaves 20 percent of adults under 65 uninsured.

Now let’s match it with longevity:

France is 80.98
US is 78.11

Less GDP for more longevity that includes both private and public options? Why not take a look at it?

Now to accomplish what France does, we’ll probably need tort reform to reduce the insurance premiums that doctors face.

[Dukehorn]

The 2nd “retelling” of Nikki White and how an educated 32 year old could die in the US from lupus complications due to the difficulty of getting healthcare.

Any easy way to analyze her missteps?

As for France, here’s a commonly quoted stat:

France spends 11 percent of its gross domestic product on health care and insures everyone and the United States spends 16.5 percent of G.D.P. and leaves 20 percent of adults under 65 uninsured.

Now let’s match it with longevity:

France is 80.98
US is 78.11

Less GDP for more longevity that includes both private and public options? Why not take a look at it?

Now to accomplish what France does, we’ll probably need tort reform to reduce the insurance premiums that doctors face.

[ucodegen]

yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.

[ucodegen]

yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.

[ucodegen]

yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.

[ucodegen]

yeah, lets have the french system…

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9199902100263591.html
http://partners.nytimes.com/library/national/science/aids/073192sci-aids.html

and a court result….

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/french-court-dismisses–aidstainted-blood-case-647310.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/fran-j28.shtml

They were delivering known AIDS tainted blood to transfusions.. because they didn’t want the cost of destroying their blood supply… nice!

It took them more than 10 years to finally bring these people to justice (maybe).. you can’t sue the state in France.

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