ObamaCare…coming soon

[jonnycsd]

The OT founda great video. I recently saw this one and think it does an even better job of laying out the pitfalls of a nationalized health system . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdx_2cuPgQQ

[surveyor]

[quote=afx114]Also, if France, Canada, England, Japan, etc ration healthcare so bad, how do you explain the fact that they have by far a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality than the US? The higher life-expectancy is even better for those over age 60 in those countries. Must be all that rationing I guess?[/quote]

It’s interesting that you say that afx because I mentioned to sdgrrl that when you take into account that many Americans die from traffic accidents and homicides, the U.S. life expectancy jumps to the top.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_life_expectancy_were_number_1/

http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1012&context=psc_working_papers

Much like the median housing price must be examined and not extrapolated to mean that the housing bubble is over, you should really examine the numbers a bit.

I find it interesting that many people on this board would never take a realtor’s information at face value but would take the word of policitians and spout it like gold.

edit: not speaking to you specifically, afx, just in general.

[surveyor]

[quote=afx114]Also, if France, Canada, England, Japan, etc ration healthcare so bad, how do you explain the fact that they have by far a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality than the US? The higher life-expectancy is even better for those over age 60 in those countries. Must be all that rationing I guess?[/quote]

It’s interesting that you say that afx because I mentioned to sdgrrl that when you take into account that many Americans die from traffic accidents and homicides, the U.S. life expectancy jumps to the top.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_life_expectancy_were_number_1/

http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1012&context=psc_working_papers

Much like the median housing price must be examined and not extrapolated to mean that the housing bubble is over, you should really examine the numbers a bit.

I find it interesting that many people on this board would never take a realtor’s information at face value but would take the word of policitians and spout it like gold.

edit: not speaking to you specifically, afx, just in general.

[surveyor]

[quote=afx114]Also, if France, Canada, England, Japan, etc ration healthcare so bad, how do you explain the fact that they have by far a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality than the US? The higher life-expectancy is even better for those over age 60 in those countries. Must be all that rationing I guess?[/quote]

It’s interesting that you say that afx because I mentioned to sdgrrl that when you take into account that many Americans die from traffic accidents and homicides, the U.S. life expectancy jumps to the top.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_life_expectancy_were_number_1/

http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1012&context=psc_working_papers

Much like the median housing price must be examined and not extrapolated to mean that the housing bubble is over, you should really examine the numbers a bit.

I find it interesting that many people on this board would never take a realtor’s information at face value but would take the word of policitians and spout it like gold.

edit: not speaking to you specifically, afx, just in general.

[surveyor]

[quote=afx114]Also, if France, Canada, England, Japan, etc ration healthcare so bad, how do you explain the fact that they have by far a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality than the US? The higher life-expectancy is even better for those over age 60 in those countries. Must be all that rationing I guess?[/quote]

It’s interesting that you say that afx because I mentioned to sdgrrl that when you take into account that many Americans die from traffic accidents and homicides, the U.S. life expectancy jumps to the top.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_life_expectancy_were_number_1/

http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1012&context=psc_working_papers

Much like the median housing price must be examined and not extrapolated to mean that the housing bubble is over, you should really examine the numbers a bit.

I find it interesting that many people on this board would never take a realtor’s information at face value but would take the word of policitians and spout it like gold.

edit: not speaking to you specifically, afx, just in general.

[surveyor]

[quote=afx114]Also, if France, Canada, England, Japan, etc ration healthcare so bad, how do you explain the fact that they have by far a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality than the US? The higher life-expectancy is even better for those over age 60 in those countries. Must be all that rationing I guess?[/quote]

It’s interesting that you say that afx because I mentioned to sdgrrl that when you take into account that many Americans die from traffic accidents and homicides, the U.S. life expectancy jumps to the top.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/us_life_expectancy_were_number_1/

http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1012&context=psc_working_papers

Much like the median housing price must be examined and not extrapolated to mean that the housing bubble is over, you should really examine the numbers a bit.

I find it interesting that many people on this board would never take a realtor’s information at face value but would take the word of policitians and spout it like gold.

edit: not speaking to you specifically, afx, just in general.

[patb]

[quote=afx114]
And how is a public option going to stifle innovation? This isn’t a bill about funding research — it is a bill about paying for medical care. The majority of research happens in universities, many of which are public. When’s the last time you heard of a corporation coming up with a breakthrough in something other than a drug to make your weiner hard? [/quote]

Rogaine.

[patb]

[quote=afx114]
And how is a public option going to stifle innovation? This isn’t a bill about funding research — it is a bill about paying for medical care. The majority of research happens in universities, many of which are public. When’s the last time you heard of a corporation coming up with a breakthrough in something other than a drug to make your weiner hard? [/quote]

Rogaine.

[patb]

[quote=afx114]
And how is a public option going to stifle innovation? This isn’t a bill about funding research — it is a bill about paying for medical care. The majority of research happens in universities, many of which are public. When’s the last time you heard of a corporation coming up with a breakthrough in something other than a drug to make your weiner hard? [/quote]

Rogaine.

[patb]

[quote=afx114]
And how is a public option going to stifle innovation? This isn’t a bill about funding research — it is a bill about paying for medical care. The majority of research happens in universities, many of which are public. When’s the last time you heard of a corporation coming up with a breakthrough in something other than a drug to make your weiner hard? [/quote]

Rogaine.

[patb]

[quote=afx114]
And how is a public option going to stifle innovation? This isn’t a bill about funding research — it is a bill about paying for medical care. The majority of research happens in universities, many of which are public. When’s the last time you heard of a corporation coming up with a breakthrough in something other than a drug to make your weiner hard? [/quote]

Rogaine.

[patb]

[quote=jonnycsd]The OT founda great video. I recently saw this one and think it does an even better job of laying out the pitfalls of a nationalized health system . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdx_2cuPgQQ%5B/quote%5D

Stossel has been on the GOP payroll for years.

30% of all insurance premiums go to overhead, medicare spends 2%.

[patb]

[quote=jonnycsd]The OT founda great video. I recently saw this one and think it does an even better job of laying out the pitfalls of a nationalized health system . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdx_2cuPgQQ%5B/quote%5D

Stossel has been on the GOP payroll for years.

30% of all insurance premiums go to overhead, medicare spends 2%.

[patb]

[quote=jonnycsd]The OT founda great video. I recently saw this one and think it does an even better job of laying out the pitfalls of a nationalized health system . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdx_2cuPgQQ%5B/quote%5D

Stossel has been on the GOP payroll for years.

30% of all insurance premiums go to overhead, medicare spends 2%.

[patb]

[quote=jonnycsd]The OT founda great video. I recently saw this one and think it does an even better job of laying out the pitfalls of a nationalized health system . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdx_2cuPgQQ%5B/quote%5D

Stossel has been on the GOP payroll for years.

30% of all insurance premiums go to overhead, medicare spends 2%.

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