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October 22, 2009 at 10:44 AM #473160October 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #472347
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantArraya: I’m trying to think of that line from “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” where he’s discussing “Isms”.
I don’t have an answer for you. I don’t think China (state controlled capitalism) is the answer. I don’t think the EU is the answer. It sure as shit doesn’t look like the US has the answer (right now), either.
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population. I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy) and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.
October 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #472527ParticipantArraya: I’m trying to think of that line from “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” where he’s discussing “Isms”.
I don’t have an answer for you. I don’t think China (state controlled capitalism) is the answer. I don’t think the EU is the answer. It sure as shit doesn’t look like the US has the answer (right now), either.
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population. I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy) and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.
October 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #472884ParticipantArraya: I’m trying to think of that line from “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” where he’s discussing “Isms”.
I don’t have an answer for you. I don’t think China (state controlled capitalism) is the answer. I don’t think the EU is the answer. It sure as shit doesn’t look like the US has the answer (right now), either.
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population. I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy) and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.
October 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #472957ParticipantArraya: I’m trying to think of that line from “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” where he’s discussing “Isms”.
I don’t have an answer for you. I don’t think China (state controlled capitalism) is the answer. I don’t think the EU is the answer. It sure as shit doesn’t look like the US has the answer (right now), either.
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population. I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy) and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.
October 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM #473180ParticipantArraya: I’m trying to think of that line from “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off” where he’s discussing “Isms”.
I don’t have an answer for you. I don’t think China (state controlled capitalism) is the answer. I don’t think the EU is the answer. It sure as shit doesn’t look like the US has the answer (right now), either.
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population. I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy) and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.
October 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM #472367briansd1
Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population.
[/quote]True, America’s trump card is immigration and the ability to attract new immigrants to grow the economy and the tax base.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy)
[/quote]I agree to some extent. China’s per capita GDP won’t match the USA for a long, long time. But China’s total GDP will surpass America’s soon enough. The big things will come from China, not Texas or California.
China is several countries within a country. There are plenty of rural and minority folks who can make babies.
China will be fascinating to watch.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.[/quote]Europe will need to learn to welcome new immigrants likely from Africa, nearby. For better or for worse that will change the face of Europe.
Japan will diminish in significance.
You’ll see the rise of the ASEAN block and Latin America.
Russia will also be interesting to watch. Eastern Europeans are looking west and the commercial dynamism of China is encroaching upon Russia on the East.
October 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM #472547Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population.
[/quote]True, America’s trump card is immigration and the ability to attract new immigrants to grow the economy and the tax base.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy)
[/quote]I agree to some extent. China’s per capita GDP won’t match the USA for a long, long time. But China’s total GDP will surpass America’s soon enough. The big things will come from China, not Texas or California.
China is several countries within a country. There are plenty of rural and minority folks who can make babies.
China will be fascinating to watch.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.[/quote]Europe will need to learn to welcome new immigrants likely from Africa, nearby. For better or for worse that will change the face of Europe.
Japan will diminish in significance.
You’ll see the rise of the ASEAN block and Latin America.
Russia will also be interesting to watch. Eastern Europeans are looking west and the commercial dynamism of China is encroaching upon Russia on the East.
October 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM #472903Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population.
[/quote]True, America’s trump card is immigration and the ability to attract new immigrants to grow the economy and the tax base.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy)
[/quote]I agree to some extent. China’s per capita GDP won’t match the USA for a long, long time. But China’s total GDP will surpass America’s soon enough. The big things will come from China, not Texas or California.
China is several countries within a country. There are plenty of rural and minority folks who can make babies.
China will be fascinating to watch.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.[/quote]Europe will need to learn to welcome new immigrants likely from Africa, nearby. For better or for worse that will change the face of Europe.
Japan will diminish in significance.
You’ll see the rise of the ASEAN block and Latin America.
Russia will also be interesting to watch. Eastern Europeans are looking west and the commercial dynamism of China is encroaching upon Russia on the East.
October 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM #472976Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population.
[/quote]True, America’s trump card is immigration and the ability to attract new immigrants to grow the economy and the tax base.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy)
[/quote]I agree to some extent. China’s per capita GDP won’t match the USA for a long, long time. But China’s total GDP will surpass America’s soon enough. The big things will come from China, not Texas or California.
China is several countries within a country. There are plenty of rural and minority folks who can make babies.
China will be fascinating to watch.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.[/quote]Europe will need to learn to welcome new immigrants likely from Africa, nearby. For better or for worse that will change the face of Europe.
Japan will diminish in significance.
You’ll see the rise of the ASEAN block and Latin America.
Russia will also be interesting to watch. Eastern Europeans are looking west and the commercial dynamism of China is encroaching upon Russia on the East.
October 22, 2009 at 12:25 PM #473200Guest[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I would say (and, yeah, I am a total homer) that, ultimately, the US will persevere and largely due to our geography, resources and population.
[/quote]True, America’s trump card is immigration and the ability to attract new immigrants to grow the economy and the tax base.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
I think China will get old before it gets rich (due to the one child policy)
[/quote]I agree to some extent. China’s per capita GDP won’t match the USA for a long, long time. But China’s total GDP will surpass America’s soon enough. The big things will come from China, not Texas or California.
China is several countries within a country. There are plenty of rural and minority folks who can make babies.
China will be fascinating to watch.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
and Europe will get slammed by pension obligations and aging populations.
Just my $.02.[/quote]Europe will need to learn to welcome new immigrants likely from Africa, nearby. For better or for worse that will change the face of Europe.
Japan will diminish in significance.
You’ll see the rise of the ASEAN block and Latin America.
Russia will also be interesting to watch. Eastern Europeans are looking west and the commercial dynamism of China is encroaching upon Russia on the East.
October 22, 2009 at 12:31 PM #472372ucodegen
Participantin Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love – they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.
The Swiss produced some of the best surveying instruments ever made in terms of accuracy, repeatability, portability and stability. They were so good that they decimated the US surveying instrument manufacturers (The US had several at the time) and there was a hefty import tax on the Swiss instruments. Look up the companies Wild Heerbrugg and Kern. They only got partially displaced when electronic systems came available. Those two companies later merged into Leica (also a Swiss brand) which was initially known for high quality large aperture lenses (ie: f1.2 50mm).
Swiss mechanical watches and timepieces were known for their accuracy and stability (that is why ‘Swiss movement’ was so important in watches). This part of their market evaporated when electronic watches became available from Japan.
October 22, 2009 at 12:31 PM #472552Participantin Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love – they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.
The Swiss produced some of the best surveying instruments ever made in terms of accuracy, repeatability, portability and stability. They were so good that they decimated the US surveying instrument manufacturers (The US had several at the time) and there was a hefty import tax on the Swiss instruments. Look up the companies Wild Heerbrugg and Kern. They only got partially displaced when electronic systems came available. Those two companies later merged into Leica (also a Swiss brand) which was initially known for high quality large aperture lenses (ie: f1.2 50mm).
Swiss mechanical watches and timepieces were known for their accuracy and stability (that is why ‘Swiss movement’ was so important in watches). This part of their market evaporated when electronic watches became available from Japan.
October 22, 2009 at 12:31 PM #472908Participantin Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love – they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.
The Swiss produced some of the best surveying instruments ever made in terms of accuracy, repeatability, portability and stability. They were so good that they decimated the US surveying instrument manufacturers (The US had several at the time) and there was a hefty import tax on the Swiss instruments. Look up the companies Wild Heerbrugg and Kern. They only got partially displaced when electronic systems came available. Those two companies later merged into Leica (also a Swiss brand) which was initially known for high quality large aperture lenses (ie: f1.2 50mm).
Swiss mechanical watches and timepieces were known for their accuracy and stability (that is why ‘Swiss movement’ was so important in watches). This part of their market evaporated when electronic watches became available from Japan.
October 22, 2009 at 12:31 PM #472981Participantin Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love – they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.
The Swiss produced some of the best surveying instruments ever made in terms of accuracy, repeatability, portability and stability. They were so good that they decimated the US surveying instrument manufacturers (The US had several at the time) and there was a hefty import tax on the Swiss instruments. Look up the companies Wild Heerbrugg and Kern. They only got partially displaced when electronic systems came available. Those two companies later merged into Leica (also a Swiss brand) which was initially known for high quality large aperture lenses (ie: f1.2 50mm).
Swiss mechanical watches and timepieces were known for their accuracy and stability (that is why ‘Swiss movement’ was so important in watches). This part of their market evaporated when electronic watches became available from Japan.
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