Obama gets peace prize for not being Bush!

[briansd1]

Allan, no, I don’t blame conservatives for everything.

But I do blame conservatives for not living up to their own high moral standards.

I will concede that liberals have more pragmatic moral standards that are more appropriate to mere humans.

For example sex. I think that adultery is no big deal. It’s something that should be worked-out between the partners involved and it’s none of anyone else’s business. As long at it’s legal, it’s fine by me.

So I don’t see a sex “scandal” as affecting a liberal politician. That’s just part of life. Let’s move on.

But for a conservative politician, who incessantly quotes the Bible, a sex scandal is huge deal. He should resign because he violated his own rules.

I feel sorry for Mark Sanford. He didn’t do anything morally or legally wrong in my book. If it weren’t for his past moral preachings, he should be allowed to remain in office and continue the affair while in office.

I see a lot more hypocrisy on the Republican side. It’s not that there isn’t plenty of hypocrisy on the Democratic side, but there’s a lot less.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Huh. Okay, so if I follow your logic, Bill Clinton was guilty of the highest form of hypocrisy, as well as blatant lying, during the Monica Lewinsky affair?

You never did respond to my post regarding a sitting President suborning perjury. Clinton was also an attorney (now disbarred), so shouldn’t we also discuss his conduct as an officer of the court and what about the Canon of Ethics?

Shall we discuss Charlie Rangel? Pelosi? How’s about Charlie Keating?

ALL politicians are lying, cheating, unethical douche bags. How the hell do you think they got there?

You seem all too willing to tar the Republicans (and you’re still conflating conservatives with Republicans, which seems to now be a tactic of yours), but you hastily back water when it comes to the Democrats’ same transgressions.

What about Clinton?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Huh. Okay, so if I follow your logic, Bill Clinton was guilty of the highest form of hypocrisy, as well as blatant lying, during the Monica Lewinsky affair?

You never did respond to my post regarding a sitting President suborning perjury. Clinton was also an attorney (now disbarred), so shouldn’t we also discuss his conduct as an officer of the court and what about the Canon of Ethics?

Shall we discuss Charlie Rangel? Pelosi? How’s about Charlie Keating?

ALL politicians are lying, cheating, unethical douche bags. How the hell do you think they got there?

You seem all too willing to tar the Republicans (and you’re still conflating conservatives with Republicans, which seems to now be a tactic of yours), but you hastily back water when it comes to the Democrats’ same transgressions.

What about Clinton?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Huh. Okay, so if I follow your logic, Bill Clinton was guilty of the highest form of hypocrisy, as well as blatant lying, during the Monica Lewinsky affair?

You never did respond to my post regarding a sitting President suborning perjury. Clinton was also an attorney (now disbarred), so shouldn’t we also discuss his conduct as an officer of the court and what about the Canon of Ethics?

Shall we discuss Charlie Rangel? Pelosi? How’s about Charlie Keating?

ALL politicians are lying, cheating, unethical douche bags. How the hell do you think they got there?

You seem all too willing to tar the Republicans (and you’re still conflating conservatives with Republicans, which seems to now be a tactic of yours), but you hastily back water when it comes to the Democrats’ same transgressions.

What about Clinton?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Huh. Okay, so if I follow your logic, Bill Clinton was guilty of the highest form of hypocrisy, as well as blatant lying, during the Monica Lewinsky affair?

You never did respond to my post regarding a sitting President suborning perjury. Clinton was also an attorney (now disbarred), so shouldn’t we also discuss his conduct as an officer of the court and what about the Canon of Ethics?

Shall we discuss Charlie Rangel? Pelosi? How’s about Charlie Keating?

ALL politicians are lying, cheating, unethical douche bags. How the hell do you think they got there?

You seem all too willing to tar the Republicans (and you’re still conflating conservatives with Republicans, which seems to now be a tactic of yours), but you hastily back water when it comes to the Democrats’ same transgressions.

What about Clinton?

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Huh. Okay, so if I follow your logic, Bill Clinton was guilty of the highest form of hypocrisy, as well as blatant lying, during the Monica Lewinsky affair?

You never did respond to my post regarding a sitting President suborning perjury. Clinton was also an attorney (now disbarred), so shouldn’t we also discuss his conduct as an officer of the court and what about the Canon of Ethics?

Shall we discuss Charlie Rangel? Pelosi? How’s about Charlie Keating?

ALL politicians are lying, cheating, unethical douche bags. How the hell do you think they got there?

You seem all too willing to tar the Republicans (and you’re still conflating conservatives with Republicans, which seems to now be a tactic of yours), but you hastily back water when it comes to the Democrats’ same transgressions.

What about Clinton?

[briansd1]

Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.

Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.

It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.

What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.

So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.

And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.

But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.

To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.

[briansd1]

Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.

Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.

It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.

What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.

So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.

And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.

But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.

To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.

[briansd1]

Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.

Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.

It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.

What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.

So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.

And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.

But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.

To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.

[briansd1]

Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.

Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.

It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.

What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.

So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.

And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.

But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.

To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.

[briansd1]

Allan, here’s my view on Clinton.

Clinton had sex and he lied about it to cover up his affair. Sure he lied, but if nobody had asked about the trysts then he would not have had to lie.

It was chicken shit for the right to try to get our president over sex by using technicalities in the law.

What the right did was not honorable. They couldn’t get him on the important issues so they tried to get him for sex.

So, yes, I excuse Clinton’s misdeeds.

And, yes, all politicians’ ethics are questionable. Some politicians are much worse than others.

But, unlike conservatives, liberals are more willing to look at the context of the transgressions.

To me, conservatives are like communists. They hide behind ideals that nobody can live up to and they use ideology to control people. And they misunderstand human nature.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.

I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.

As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.

As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.

Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.

I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.

As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.

As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.

Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.

I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.

As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.

As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.

Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.

[Allan from Fallbrook]

Brian: Okay. Essentially, glib BS and a complete whitewash.

I would admonish you (again) not to attack conservatives without basis, but its clear that would be pointless.

As far as Clinton goes: Whatever. In your book, morals and ethics are situational for people you favor and cast in stone for those whom you don’t.

As far as ideology goes: You might want to read some more history. Both Left and Right are guilty of ideological lockstep, but you seem blind to that fact. Again, what your guys do is okay and those who oppose you are all lying, cheating malcontents bent on humanity’s destruction. That kind of thinking is especially helpful to demagogues and ideologues of all stripes.

Have fun with whomever else here that wants to lock rapiers with you; I’m done. This isn’t a dialogue with someone who is capable of understanding an opposing point of view or admitting when they might be wrong, so what is the point in continuing? My hat off to whomever propagandized you: They did a great job.

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