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February 20, 2008 at 6:51 AM #156504February 20, 2008 at 9:25 AM #156236Allan from FallbrookParticipant
Rational expert: The problem at Isandlwana was not bad ammo, but rather a lack of ammo. The British quartermasters were refusing to release additional ammo until their officers ordered it. As a result, the British riflemen were overrun by the Zulus when their ammo ran out, and their bayonets proved no match for the Zulus’ assegais.
The Martini-Henry rifle was extremely effective against indigenous forces, as was the Maxim machine gun, but both are worthless without ammunition.
The 150 man contingent at Rorke’s Drift held off 4,000 Zulus and attributed their success to the Martini-Henry rifle “with some guts behind it”.
February 20, 2008 at 9:25 AM #156522Allan from FallbrookParticipantRational expert: The problem at Isandlwana was not bad ammo, but rather a lack of ammo. The British quartermasters were refusing to release additional ammo until their officers ordered it. As a result, the British riflemen were overrun by the Zulus when their ammo ran out, and their bayonets proved no match for the Zulus’ assegais.
The Martini-Henry rifle was extremely effective against indigenous forces, as was the Maxim machine gun, but both are worthless without ammunition.
The 150 man contingent at Rorke’s Drift held off 4,000 Zulus and attributed their success to the Martini-Henry rifle “with some guts behind it”.
February 20, 2008 at 9:25 AM #156526Allan from FallbrookParticipantRational expert: The problem at Isandlwana was not bad ammo, but rather a lack of ammo. The British quartermasters were refusing to release additional ammo until their officers ordered it. As a result, the British riflemen were overrun by the Zulus when their ammo ran out, and their bayonets proved no match for the Zulus’ assegais.
The Martini-Henry rifle was extremely effective against indigenous forces, as was the Maxim machine gun, but both are worthless without ammunition.
The 150 man contingent at Rorke’s Drift held off 4,000 Zulus and attributed their success to the Martini-Henry rifle “with some guts behind it”.
February 20, 2008 at 9:25 AM #156543Allan from FallbrookParticipantRational expert: The problem at Isandlwana was not bad ammo, but rather a lack of ammo. The British quartermasters were refusing to release additional ammo until their officers ordered it. As a result, the British riflemen were overrun by the Zulus when their ammo ran out, and their bayonets proved no match for the Zulus’ assegais.
The Martini-Henry rifle was extremely effective against indigenous forces, as was the Maxim machine gun, but both are worthless without ammunition.
The 150 man contingent at Rorke’s Drift held off 4,000 Zulus and attributed their success to the Martini-Henry rifle “with some guts behind it”.
February 20, 2008 at 9:25 AM #156619Allan from FallbrookParticipantRational expert: The problem at Isandlwana was not bad ammo, but rather a lack of ammo. The British quartermasters were refusing to release additional ammo until their officers ordered it. As a result, the British riflemen were overrun by the Zulus when their ammo ran out, and their bayonets proved no match for the Zulus’ assegais.
The Martini-Henry rifle was extremely effective against indigenous forces, as was the Maxim machine gun, but both are worthless without ammunition.
The 150 man contingent at Rorke’s Drift held off 4,000 Zulus and attributed their success to the Martini-Henry rifle “with some guts behind it”.
February 21, 2008 at 2:53 PM #157124DoJCParticipantI might now add a new one:
10. Loan to income ratios will NEVER, EVER get as high as they are now, or in the recent past. Up until about 2006 ratios were over 12:1. A person with $100,000 could assume a mortgage loan of $1.2M. Even with this recent bust things are still coming out to 11:1 on average. No bank in the world will give out a loan at that ratio, and likely won’t in the foreseeable future.
With this in mind, how can CA support such high prices? Aliso Viejo, where I rent an apartment, has a median income of around $90K/year, with homes running close to $900K+. San Clemente, where I’d like to buy is even worse with median incomes at about $110K, and homes running well over a $1M. Who can afford to buy a home in this market? And, conversely, what bank would make that loan without a HUGE downpayment of 10-20%?
Maybe things are looking up for buying a home afterall?
– Doug
February 21, 2008 at 2:53 PM #157412DoJCParticipantI might now add a new one:
10. Loan to income ratios will NEVER, EVER get as high as they are now, or in the recent past. Up until about 2006 ratios were over 12:1. A person with $100,000 could assume a mortgage loan of $1.2M. Even with this recent bust things are still coming out to 11:1 on average. No bank in the world will give out a loan at that ratio, and likely won’t in the foreseeable future.
With this in mind, how can CA support such high prices? Aliso Viejo, where I rent an apartment, has a median income of around $90K/year, with homes running close to $900K+. San Clemente, where I’d like to buy is even worse with median incomes at about $110K, and homes running well over a $1M. Who can afford to buy a home in this market? And, conversely, what bank would make that loan without a HUGE downpayment of 10-20%?
Maybe things are looking up for buying a home afterall?
– Doug
February 21, 2008 at 2:53 PM #157429DoJCParticipantI might now add a new one:
10. Loan to income ratios will NEVER, EVER get as high as they are now, or in the recent past. Up until about 2006 ratios were over 12:1. A person with $100,000 could assume a mortgage loan of $1.2M. Even with this recent bust things are still coming out to 11:1 on average. No bank in the world will give out a loan at that ratio, and likely won’t in the foreseeable future.
With this in mind, how can CA support such high prices? Aliso Viejo, where I rent an apartment, has a median income of around $90K/year, with homes running close to $900K+. San Clemente, where I’d like to buy is even worse with median incomes at about $110K, and homes running well over a $1M. Who can afford to buy a home in this market? And, conversely, what bank would make that loan without a HUGE downpayment of 10-20%?
Maybe things are looking up for buying a home afterall?
– Doug
February 21, 2008 at 2:53 PM #157436DoJCParticipantI might now add a new one:
10. Loan to income ratios will NEVER, EVER get as high as they are now, or in the recent past. Up until about 2006 ratios were over 12:1. A person with $100,000 could assume a mortgage loan of $1.2M. Even with this recent bust things are still coming out to 11:1 on average. No bank in the world will give out a loan at that ratio, and likely won’t in the foreseeable future.
With this in mind, how can CA support such high prices? Aliso Viejo, where I rent an apartment, has a median income of around $90K/year, with homes running close to $900K+. San Clemente, where I’d like to buy is even worse with median incomes at about $110K, and homes running well over a $1M. Who can afford to buy a home in this market? And, conversely, what bank would make that loan without a HUGE downpayment of 10-20%?
Maybe things are looking up for buying a home afterall?
– Doug
February 21, 2008 at 2:53 PM #157505DoJCParticipantI might now add a new one:
10. Loan to income ratios will NEVER, EVER get as high as they are now, or in the recent past. Up until about 2006 ratios were over 12:1. A person with $100,000 could assume a mortgage loan of $1.2M. Even with this recent bust things are still coming out to 11:1 on average. No bank in the world will give out a loan at that ratio, and likely won’t in the foreseeable future.
With this in mind, how can CA support such high prices? Aliso Viejo, where I rent an apartment, has a median income of around $90K/year, with homes running close to $900K+. San Clemente, where I’d like to buy is even worse with median incomes at about $110K, and homes running well over a $1M. Who can afford to buy a home in this market? And, conversely, what bank would make that loan without a HUGE downpayment of 10-20%?
Maybe things are looking up for buying a home afterall?
– Doug
February 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM #157267AnonymousGuestIf a couple brings in roughly 200k/year, you get a 5:1 income ratio for a $1M home.
February 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM #157558AnonymousGuestIf a couple brings in roughly 200k/year, you get a 5:1 income ratio for a $1M home.
February 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM #157573AnonymousGuestIf a couple brings in roughly 200k/year, you get a 5:1 income ratio for a $1M home.
February 21, 2008 at 4:45 PM #157580AnonymousGuestIf a couple brings in roughly 200k/year, you get a 5:1 income ratio for a $1M home.
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