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October 31, 2010 at 9:37 PM #18146November 1, 2010 at 1:17 AM #624895CA renterParticipant
From the link:
“The mortgage-foreclosure mess could prove expensive for banks and investors. But in some states, it will also prolong an unintended economic stimulus: free housing for millions of defaulters.”
—————-They are crazy to assume this was an “unintended” stimulus. The moment they started with the foreclosure moratoriums and other stall tactics, some of us were calling it one of the biggest forms of stimulus around. IMHO, this was intended from the start, and the “new” robo-signing scuffle is just a continuation of this stimulus. They know the economy is too weak to handle reality, so we’ll continue with this farce for as long as possible. The only question is how long it can last.
November 1, 2010 at 1:17 AM #625530CA renterParticipantFrom the link:
“The mortgage-foreclosure mess could prove expensive for banks and investors. But in some states, it will also prolong an unintended economic stimulus: free housing for millions of defaulters.”
—————-They are crazy to assume this was an “unintended” stimulus. The moment they started with the foreclosure moratoriums and other stall tactics, some of us were calling it one of the biggest forms of stimulus around. IMHO, this was intended from the start, and the “new” robo-signing scuffle is just a continuation of this stimulus. They know the economy is too weak to handle reality, so we’ll continue with this farce for as long as possible. The only question is how long it can last.
November 1, 2010 at 1:17 AM #625656CA renterParticipantFrom the link:
“The mortgage-foreclosure mess could prove expensive for banks and investors. But in some states, it will also prolong an unintended economic stimulus: free housing for millions of defaulters.”
—————-They are crazy to assume this was an “unintended” stimulus. The moment they started with the foreclosure moratoriums and other stall tactics, some of us were calling it one of the biggest forms of stimulus around. IMHO, this was intended from the start, and the “new” robo-signing scuffle is just a continuation of this stimulus. They know the economy is too weak to handle reality, so we’ll continue with this farce for as long as possible. The only question is how long it can last.
November 1, 2010 at 1:17 AM #625964CA renterParticipantFrom the link:
“The mortgage-foreclosure mess could prove expensive for banks and investors. But in some states, it will also prolong an unintended economic stimulus: free housing for millions of defaulters.”
—————-They are crazy to assume this was an “unintended” stimulus. The moment they started with the foreclosure moratoriums and other stall tactics, some of us were calling it one of the biggest forms of stimulus around. IMHO, this was intended from the start, and the “new” robo-signing scuffle is just a continuation of this stimulus. They know the economy is too weak to handle reality, so we’ll continue with this farce for as long as possible. The only question is how long it can last.
November 1, 2010 at 1:17 AM #624977CA renterParticipantFrom the link:
“The mortgage-foreclosure mess could prove expensive for banks and investors. But in some states, it will also prolong an unintended economic stimulus: free housing for millions of defaulters.”
—————-They are crazy to assume this was an “unintended” stimulus. The moment they started with the foreclosure moratoriums and other stall tactics, some of us were calling it one of the biggest forms of stimulus around. IMHO, this was intended from the start, and the “new” robo-signing scuffle is just a continuation of this stimulus. They know the economy is too weak to handle reality, so we’ll continue with this farce for as long as possible. The only question is how long it can last.
November 1, 2010 at 5:07 AM #625555scaredyclassicParticipanti know a guy recently who got the stimulus but wasn’t the owner, he just caught on real quick his landlord wasn’t paying the rent, basically called their bluff, and hasn’t paid the rent for several years. Well done, man! took a risk and benefitted tremendously. the landlord took off and is completely out of the picture.
November 1, 2010 at 5:07 AM #624920scaredyclassicParticipanti know a guy recently who got the stimulus but wasn’t the owner, he just caught on real quick his landlord wasn’t paying the rent, basically called their bluff, and hasn’t paid the rent for several years. Well done, man! took a risk and benefitted tremendously. the landlord took off and is completely out of the picture.
November 1, 2010 at 5:07 AM #625002scaredyclassicParticipanti know a guy recently who got the stimulus but wasn’t the owner, he just caught on real quick his landlord wasn’t paying the rent, basically called their bluff, and hasn’t paid the rent for several years. Well done, man! took a risk and benefitted tremendously. the landlord took off and is completely out of the picture.
November 1, 2010 at 5:07 AM #625680scaredyclassicParticipanti know a guy recently who got the stimulus but wasn’t the owner, he just caught on real quick his landlord wasn’t paying the rent, basically called their bluff, and hasn’t paid the rent for several years. Well done, man! took a risk and benefitted tremendously. the landlord took off and is completely out of the picture.
November 1, 2010 at 5:07 AM #625987scaredyclassicParticipanti know a guy recently who got the stimulus but wasn’t the owner, he just caught on real quick his landlord wasn’t paying the rent, basically called their bluff, and hasn’t paid the rent for several years. Well done, man! took a risk and benefitted tremendously. the landlord took off and is completely out of the picture.
November 1, 2010 at 5:19 AM #625560eavesdropperParticipant“Ms. Zelman says her research suggests defaulters do spend much of the money on consumer services and goods. “People are taking what they would have been spending on a mortgage and spending it somewhere else,” she says……
“I don’t think that’s the kind of consumer recovery we want, if the only reason they’re spending a bit more is that they’re not paying their other bills,” said Joseph Carson, director of global economic research at AllianceBernstein in New York.”I agree with the guy, but I’m also wondering where were these economic research people during the “healthy economy” of the early to mid-aughts? I had friends and acquaintances all around me during that time constantly telling me, “The economy is doing great!!” I would then ask them how an economy could be healthy when everything that was being bought was either on some sort of unsecured consumer credit agreement or financed with the equity in people’s homes. I would point out that our “thriving economy” was not based on stuff that our nation’s people were manufacturing but was actually based on financial services: making loans and servicing them. Without exception, every one of responded, “The stock market is up, and housing prices are going through the roof.” It *never* occurred to them that the situation could change, nor could they accept that as a possibility when they were apprised of it. Who could blame them? The financial “experts” in the media weren’t telling them that.
November 1, 2010 at 5:19 AM #624925eavesdropperParticipant“Ms. Zelman says her research suggests defaulters do spend much of the money on consumer services and goods. “People are taking what they would have been spending on a mortgage and spending it somewhere else,” she says……
“I don’t think that’s the kind of consumer recovery we want, if the only reason they’re spending a bit more is that they’re not paying their other bills,” said Joseph Carson, director of global economic research at AllianceBernstein in New York.”I agree with the guy, but I’m also wondering where were these economic research people during the “healthy economy” of the early to mid-aughts? I had friends and acquaintances all around me during that time constantly telling me, “The economy is doing great!!” I would then ask them how an economy could be healthy when everything that was being bought was either on some sort of unsecured consumer credit agreement or financed with the equity in people’s homes. I would point out that our “thriving economy” was not based on stuff that our nation’s people were manufacturing but was actually based on financial services: making loans and servicing them. Without exception, every one of responded, “The stock market is up, and housing prices are going through the roof.” It *never* occurred to them that the situation could change, nor could they accept that as a possibility when they were apprised of it. Who could blame them? The financial “experts” in the media weren’t telling them that.
November 1, 2010 at 5:19 AM #625684eavesdropperParticipant“Ms. Zelman says her research suggests defaulters do spend much of the money on consumer services and goods. “People are taking what they would have been spending on a mortgage and spending it somewhere else,” she says……
“I don’t think that’s the kind of consumer recovery we want, if the only reason they’re spending a bit more is that they’re not paying their other bills,” said Joseph Carson, director of global economic research at AllianceBernstein in New York.”I agree with the guy, but I’m also wondering where were these economic research people during the “healthy economy” of the early to mid-aughts? I had friends and acquaintances all around me during that time constantly telling me, “The economy is doing great!!” I would then ask them how an economy could be healthy when everything that was being bought was either on some sort of unsecured consumer credit agreement or financed with the equity in people’s homes. I would point out that our “thriving economy” was not based on stuff that our nation’s people were manufacturing but was actually based on financial services: making loans and servicing them. Without exception, every one of responded, “The stock market is up, and housing prices are going through the roof.” It *never* occurred to them that the situation could change, nor could they accept that as a possibility when they were apprised of it. Who could blame them? The financial “experts” in the media weren’t telling them that.
November 1, 2010 at 5:19 AM #625992eavesdropperParticipant“Ms. Zelman says her research suggests defaulters do spend much of the money on consumer services and goods. “People are taking what they would have been spending on a mortgage and spending it somewhere else,” she says……
“I don’t think that’s the kind of consumer recovery we want, if the only reason they’re spending a bit more is that they’re not paying their other bills,” said Joseph Carson, director of global economic research at AllianceBernstein in New York.”I agree with the guy, but I’m also wondering where were these economic research people during the “healthy economy” of the early to mid-aughts? I had friends and acquaintances all around me during that time constantly telling me, “The economy is doing great!!” I would then ask them how an economy could be healthy when everything that was being bought was either on some sort of unsecured consumer credit agreement or financed with the equity in people’s homes. I would point out that our “thriving economy” was not based on stuff that our nation’s people were manufacturing but was actually based on financial services: making loans and servicing them. Without exception, every one of responded, “The stock market is up, and housing prices are going through the roof.” It *never* occurred to them that the situation could change, nor could they accept that as a possibility when they were apprised of it. Who could blame them? The financial “experts” in the media weren’t telling them that.
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