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October 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM #467453October 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #467924svelteParticipant
You should move, Paramount.
You can tell by what you write you’re not happy there. Find your place in the sun.
October 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #467852svelteParticipantYou should move, Paramount.
You can tell by what you write you’re not happy there. Find your place in the sun.
October 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #468135svelteParticipantYou should move, Paramount.
You can tell by what you write you’re not happy there. Find your place in the sun.
October 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #467320svelteParticipantYou should move, Paramount.
You can tell by what you write you’re not happy there. Find your place in the sun.
October 11, 2009 at 12:51 PM #467500svelteParticipantYou should move, Paramount.
You can tell by what you write you’re not happy there. Find your place in the sun.
October 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM #467857temeculaguyParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]
This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]
svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.
paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff
http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm
a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.
I ran him on the public court website,
http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/
Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.
But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.
I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.
October 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM #467505temeculaguyParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]
This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]
svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.
paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff
http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm
a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.
I ran him on the public court website,
http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/
Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.
But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.
I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.
October 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM #467325temeculaguyParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]
This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]
svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.
paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff
http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm
a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.
I ran him on the public court website,
http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/
Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.
But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.
I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.
October 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM #468140temeculaguyParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]
This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]
svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.
paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff
http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm
a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.
I ran him on the public court website,
http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/
Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.
But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.
I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.
October 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM #467929temeculaguyParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=EconProf]Along these lines….many people wrongly buy into the idea that recessions cause crime. But your cited facts belie that conclusion, as crime rates are thankfully falling most everywhere. The national crime rate was unusually low during the Great Depression of the 1930s.[/quote]
This intrigues me…why do crime rates fall during recessions/depressions? It does seem counter-intuitive.[/quote]
svelte, I dont think Econ was asserting that recessions/depressions cause crime to fall, just that they do not cause it to rise, which people tend to believe. It is logical, just not factual. The last ten years of falling crime rates can mostly be attributed to technology. There’s just no money in mugging people, few people carry cash, it’s a lot easier to get their money madoff style, or in less violent ways (identity theft/fraud). bankers are the new gang members. Forensics, DNA, video cameras, computers, cell phones, alarms, gps tracking devices and other technological advances gets most of the credit for the falling crime rates this decade.
paramount, here is the press release from the sheriff
http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/09282-sws.htm
a couple of things to focus on, the victim didn’t report the crime or call 911, the hospital reported it because they have to. They quickly got his name and phone number, contacted him and he agreed to surrender. DNA doesn’t work that fast so the victim probably knew him, may have been related to him, etc. But he wasn’t sitting in the park waiting to stab the next guy walking his dog.
I ran him on the public court website,
http://public-access.riverside.courts.ca.gov/OpenAccess/
Four entries, but three were sealed (probably because he was a minor), the only visible one was a domestic violence restraining order, kinda rare for an 18 year old. My guess is that this had a domestic angle to it and was not random. There really isn’t a place you can move to in order to avoid brothers fighting, husbands killing wives for insurance money or jealousy, families turning their living rooms into hockey games, this happens everywhere and doesn’t endanger you.
But if you are afraid to venture out at night, then it is real to you, it is affecting your quality of life. I suggest land, places on 5 acres or more, dog and shotgun country, russel’s type hood, those places have a lot less things going on and when it does happen, it’s too far away to hear.
I’m still going to go out at night, I’m an odds guy, I’m not going sit at home because there is a 0.00153 percent chance that in a given year I will be the victim of a violent crime. Over the course of the next 40 years that I’ll probably be on the planet, there is a 0.0612 chance that I will be a victim of a violent crime. I don’t know how to calculate the odds of my being involved in a threesome with Beyonce and Christina Hendricks so I don’t modify my life because of that possiblity either, unfortunately.
October 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM #467945paramountParticipantTG: Those won’t be your odds if you walk in the park by my house at night alone , that I will assure you.
And remember, I did mention that these crimes could happen anywhere. Paloma del Sol though is an older community that is deteriorating IMO – both physically and my perception is that crime is on the rise in our immediate community – and not just because of this stabbing – this just happens to be the latest incident.
October 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM #467591paramountParticipantTG: Those won’t be your odds if you walk in the park by my house at night alone , that I will assure you.
And remember, I did mention that these crimes could happen anywhere. Paloma del Sol though is an older community that is deteriorating IMO – both physically and my perception is that crime is on the rise in our immediate community – and not just because of this stabbing – this just happens to be the latest incident.
October 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM #468016paramountParticipantTG: Those won’t be your odds if you walk in the park by my house at night alone , that I will assure you.
And remember, I did mention that these crimes could happen anywhere. Paloma del Sol though is an older community that is deteriorating IMO – both physically and my perception is that crime is on the rise in our immediate community – and not just because of this stabbing – this just happens to be the latest incident.
October 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM #468228paramountParticipantTG: Those won’t be your odds if you walk in the park by my house at night alone , that I will assure you.
And remember, I did mention that these crimes could happen anywhere. Paloma del Sol though is an older community that is deteriorating IMO – both physically and my perception is that crime is on the rise in our immediate community – and not just because of this stabbing – this just happens to be the latest incident.
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