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January 28, 2010 at 1:37 PM #507472January 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM #506583
Nor-LA-SD-guy
ParticipantI think if they want the biggest bang for their buck they should do the two end parts first (Sacramento->San Jose) and (LA->SD).
Most of the other stuff is already covered with rail access.
January 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM #506729ParticipantI think if they want the biggest bang for their buck they should do the two end parts first (Sacramento->San Jose) and (LA->SD).
Most of the other stuff is already covered with rail access.
January 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM #507139ParticipantI think if they want the biggest bang for their buck they should do the two end parts first (Sacramento->San Jose) and (LA->SD).
Most of the other stuff is already covered with rail access.
January 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM #507232ParticipantI think if they want the biggest bang for their buck they should do the two end parts first (Sacramento->San Jose) and (LA->SD).
Most of the other stuff is already covered with rail access.
January 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM #507487ParticipantI think if they want the biggest bang for their buck they should do the two end parts first (Sacramento->San Jose) and (LA->SD).
Most of the other stuff is already covered with rail access.
January 28, 2010 at 2:43 PM #506593XBoxBoy
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3) The number of people who die annually on our roads is something like 50k, and the number injured is significantly higher. Self driven cars should have no collisions.
You are an optimist.. think blue screen of death. How about ‘runaway Toyota’s too. Its not supposed to happen, but still does. It needs to be realized that following distances will be decreased and speeds increased for cars that are ‘auto-piloted’ because the perception of increased safety.[/quote]
I don’t really think I’m that much of an optimist to be honest. Yes, you might still have occasional deaths, (so, okay, maybe I was wrong to say “no deaths”) but the number of deaths due to mechanical failure will be significantly less than deaths due to drinking, talking on the phone, speeding, and plain stupidity.
Yes, following distances would decrease, and speeds would probably increase, but the reaction time of a computer is faster than human reaction time by many orders of magnitude. And to take out the “human decision making” element of driving would be enormous. (How often do you find yourself mumbling, “IDIOT” when driving?)
Btw. How many people have died in the runaway toyotas? A quick web search gives me the number 18 deaths since 1999, so maybe 2 per year. Let’s say those numbers are low, with some deaths due to this being falsly attributed to something else. Even at double, 4 deaths per year, it’s a teeny tiny fraction of the number of deaths cause each day by stupid drivers. (Hey, you thought I wouldn’t drag out some statistics? This is Piggington’s “In God we trust all other’s bring data”)
Bottom line to all this is that self driven cars is something that would bring huge benefits to each and everyone of us. But unfortunately, the vision for these things just isn’t there. Instead we are trapped looking at “traditional” solutions such as mass transit trains and buses.
XBoxBoy
January 28, 2010 at 2:43 PM #506739Participant[quote=ucodegen]
3) The number of people who die annually on our roads is something like 50k, and the number injured is significantly higher. Self driven cars should have no collisions.
You are an optimist.. think blue screen of death. How about ‘runaway Toyota’s too. Its not supposed to happen, but still does. It needs to be realized that following distances will be decreased and speeds increased for cars that are ‘auto-piloted’ because the perception of increased safety.[/quote]
I don’t really think I’m that much of an optimist to be honest. Yes, you might still have occasional deaths, (so, okay, maybe I was wrong to say “no deaths”) but the number of deaths due to mechanical failure will be significantly less than deaths due to drinking, talking on the phone, speeding, and plain stupidity.
Yes, following distances would decrease, and speeds would probably increase, but the reaction time of a computer is faster than human reaction time by many orders of magnitude. And to take out the “human decision making” element of driving would be enormous. (How often do you find yourself mumbling, “IDIOT” when driving?)
Btw. How many people have died in the runaway toyotas? A quick web search gives me the number 18 deaths since 1999, so maybe 2 per year. Let’s say those numbers are low, with some deaths due to this being falsly attributed to something else. Even at double, 4 deaths per year, it’s a teeny tiny fraction of the number of deaths cause each day by stupid drivers. (Hey, you thought I wouldn’t drag out some statistics? This is Piggington’s “In God we trust all other’s bring data”)
Bottom line to all this is that self driven cars is something that would bring huge benefits to each and everyone of us. But unfortunately, the vision for these things just isn’t there. Instead we are trapped looking at “traditional” solutions such as mass transit trains and buses.
XBoxBoy
January 28, 2010 at 2:43 PM #507149Participant[quote=ucodegen]
3) The number of people who die annually on our roads is something like 50k, and the number injured is significantly higher. Self driven cars should have no collisions.
You are an optimist.. think blue screen of death. How about ‘runaway Toyota’s too. Its not supposed to happen, but still does. It needs to be realized that following distances will be decreased and speeds increased for cars that are ‘auto-piloted’ because the perception of increased safety.[/quote]
I don’t really think I’m that much of an optimist to be honest. Yes, you might still have occasional deaths, (so, okay, maybe I was wrong to say “no deaths”) but the number of deaths due to mechanical failure will be significantly less than deaths due to drinking, talking on the phone, speeding, and plain stupidity.
Yes, following distances would decrease, and speeds would probably increase, but the reaction time of a computer is faster than human reaction time by many orders of magnitude. And to take out the “human decision making” element of driving would be enormous. (How often do you find yourself mumbling, “IDIOT” when driving?)
Btw. How many people have died in the runaway toyotas? A quick web search gives me the number 18 deaths since 1999, so maybe 2 per year. Let’s say those numbers are low, with some deaths due to this being falsly attributed to something else. Even at double, 4 deaths per year, it’s a teeny tiny fraction of the number of deaths cause each day by stupid drivers. (Hey, you thought I wouldn’t drag out some statistics? This is Piggington’s “In God we trust all other’s bring data”)
Bottom line to all this is that self driven cars is something that would bring huge benefits to each and everyone of us. But unfortunately, the vision for these things just isn’t there. Instead we are trapped looking at “traditional” solutions such as mass transit trains and buses.
XBoxBoy
January 28, 2010 at 2:43 PM #507242Participant[quote=ucodegen]
3) The number of people who die annually on our roads is something like 50k, and the number injured is significantly higher. Self driven cars should have no collisions.
You are an optimist.. think blue screen of death. How about ‘runaway Toyota’s too. Its not supposed to happen, but still does. It needs to be realized that following distances will be decreased and speeds increased for cars that are ‘auto-piloted’ because the perception of increased safety.[/quote]
I don’t really think I’m that much of an optimist to be honest. Yes, you might still have occasional deaths, (so, okay, maybe I was wrong to say “no deaths”) but the number of deaths due to mechanical failure will be significantly less than deaths due to drinking, talking on the phone, speeding, and plain stupidity.
Yes, following distances would decrease, and speeds would probably increase, but the reaction time of a computer is faster than human reaction time by many orders of magnitude. And to take out the “human decision making” element of driving would be enormous. (How often do you find yourself mumbling, “IDIOT” when driving?)
Btw. How many people have died in the runaway toyotas? A quick web search gives me the number 18 deaths since 1999, so maybe 2 per year. Let’s say those numbers are low, with some deaths due to this being falsly attributed to something else. Even at double, 4 deaths per year, it’s a teeny tiny fraction of the number of deaths cause each day by stupid drivers. (Hey, you thought I wouldn’t drag out some statistics? This is Piggington’s “In God we trust all other’s bring data”)
Bottom line to all this is that self driven cars is something that would bring huge benefits to each and everyone of us. But unfortunately, the vision for these things just isn’t there. Instead we are trapped looking at “traditional” solutions such as mass transit trains and buses.
XBoxBoy
January 28, 2010 at 2:43 PM #507498Participant[quote=ucodegen]
3) The number of people who die annually on our roads is something like 50k, and the number injured is significantly higher. Self driven cars should have no collisions.
You are an optimist.. think blue screen of death. How about ‘runaway Toyota’s too. Its not supposed to happen, but still does. It needs to be realized that following distances will be decreased and speeds increased for cars that are ‘auto-piloted’ because the perception of increased safety.[/quote]
I don’t really think I’m that much of an optimist to be honest. Yes, you might still have occasional deaths, (so, okay, maybe I was wrong to say “no deaths”) but the number of deaths due to mechanical failure will be significantly less than deaths due to drinking, talking on the phone, speeding, and plain stupidity.
Yes, following distances would decrease, and speeds would probably increase, but the reaction time of a computer is faster than human reaction time by many orders of magnitude. And to take out the “human decision making” element of driving would be enormous. (How often do you find yourself mumbling, “IDIOT” when driving?)
Btw. How many people have died in the runaway toyotas? A quick web search gives me the number 18 deaths since 1999, so maybe 2 per year. Let’s say those numbers are low, with some deaths due to this being falsly attributed to something else. Even at double, 4 deaths per year, it’s a teeny tiny fraction of the number of deaths cause each day by stupid drivers. (Hey, you thought I wouldn’t drag out some statistics? This is Piggington’s “In God we trust all other’s bring data”)
Bottom line to all this is that self driven cars is something that would bring huge benefits to each and everyone of us. But unfortunately, the vision for these things just isn’t there. Instead we are trapped looking at “traditional” solutions such as mass transit trains and buses.
XBoxBoy
January 28, 2010 at 3:03 PM #506617ParticipantI don’t think you need to Plan for computer controlled car’s and (total recall) electric JohnyCab’s,
those are already on the private Car companies drawing boards, But I think you will need both solutions eventually.
What we need eventually is remote controlled avatars !!
January 28, 2010 at 3:03 PM #506765ParticipantI don’t think you need to Plan for computer controlled car’s and (total recall) electric JohnyCab’s,
those are already on the private Car companies drawing boards, But I think you will need both solutions eventually.
What we need eventually is remote controlled avatars !!
January 28, 2010 at 3:03 PM #507174ParticipantI don’t think you need to Plan for computer controlled car’s and (total recall) electric JohnyCab’s,
those are already on the private Car companies drawing boards, But I think you will need both solutions eventually.
What we need eventually is remote controlled avatars !!
January 28, 2010 at 3:03 PM #507267ParticipantI don’t think you need to Plan for computer controlled car’s and (total recall) electric JohnyCab’s,
those are already on the private Car companies drawing boards, But I think you will need both solutions eventually.
What we need eventually is remote controlled avatars !!
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