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June 20, 2007 at 7:45 AM #60727June 20, 2007 at 7:48 AM #60695lostkittyParticipantJune 20, 2007 at 7:48 AM #60729lostkittyParticipantJune 20, 2007 at 8:09 AM #60699AnonymousGuest
Conservative compassion requires that folks in trouble change their ways. Liberal compassion merely feeds the beast: ‘Your way of doing things is okay, too.’
You really want to help sub-Saharan Africa? Let’s bring back colonialism, with the Brits, French, and Belgians running things, because it appears to this layman that the folks in these countries are incapable of ruling themselves. Self-directed anarchy or Western-directed order; you pick.
June 20, 2007 at 8:09 AM #60733AnonymousGuestConservative compassion requires that folks in trouble change their ways. Liberal compassion merely feeds the beast: ‘Your way of doing things is okay, too.’
You really want to help sub-Saharan Africa? Let’s bring back colonialism, with the Brits, French, and Belgians running things, because it appears to this layman that the folks in these countries are incapable of ruling themselves. Self-directed anarchy or Western-directed order; you pick.
June 20, 2007 at 8:14 AM #60705PerryChaseParticipantLostkitty is not posting any hate. She and davelj are voices of reason. Their posts are only in response to the sanctimonious posts by a Christian rightist.
I too believe that that it’s important to stand up to such bullying.
I grew up Catholic and one reason I no longer practice Christianity is because many organized Christians do nothing but condemn others.
This real estate scam is not surprising. You have the prophet guiding the core clients to real estate heaven. Pretty soon they have a flock of thousands in their empire. At least that was the hope. If they have core clients, I’m sure they have plenty of non-core clients who didn’t “see the light” and got in on the ground floor. A classic pyramid scheme.
June 20, 2007 at 8:14 AM #60739PerryChaseParticipantLostkitty is not posting any hate. She and davelj are voices of reason. Their posts are only in response to the sanctimonious posts by a Christian rightist.
I too believe that that it’s important to stand up to such bullying.
I grew up Catholic and one reason I no longer practice Christianity is because many organized Christians do nothing but condemn others.
This real estate scam is not surprising. You have the prophet guiding the core clients to real estate heaven. Pretty soon they have a flock of thousands in their empire. At least that was the hope. If they have core clients, I’m sure they have plenty of non-core clients who didn’t “see the light” and got in on the ground floor. A classic pyramid scheme.
June 20, 2007 at 8:29 AM #60713PerryChaseParticipantjg, Africa is a mess it is because of Colonialism. The Europeans used religion to justify the oppression and the result is the mess we have today.
The typical administration of a colony was this:
1) use religion to invade;
2) grant concessions to your buddies the industrialists;
3) exploit the natural riches and the people for labor;
4) export the goods back home for processing;
5) sell the finished product in the home market as well as the colonies.It’s still going on today in different forms. I’ve spend some time in different countries and I know this to be true. Despite the corruption, Africans are much better-off today that under servitude during colonial times.
jg, your delusions are very much out of this world.
June 20, 2007 at 8:29 AM #60747PerryChaseParticipantjg, Africa is a mess it is because of Colonialism. The Europeans used religion to justify the oppression and the result is the mess we have today.
The typical administration of a colony was this:
1) use religion to invade;
2) grant concessions to your buddies the industrialists;
3) exploit the natural riches and the people for labor;
4) export the goods back home for processing;
5) sell the finished product in the home market as well as the colonies.It’s still going on today in different forms. I’ve spend some time in different countries and I know this to be true. Despite the corruption, Africans are much better-off today that under servitude during colonial times.
jg, your delusions are very much out of this world.
June 20, 2007 at 1:01 PM #60780AnonymousGuestC’mon, Perry; what about the world’s largest democracy, India? I vaguely remember that the were a British colony. They seem to be doing rather well today, despite (because?) of 1-5.
Same with those other British colonies, Canada, Australia, and the U.S.
Africa and the Palestinians need firm colonialism for a long, long time, until the Western roots really take hold. Bring back the protectorates, ’cause the natives ain’t capable of home rule.
I’ll let davelj argue with you about whether Africans today are better off than they were under colonialism. He seems to think that things are bad there, today.
June 20, 2007 at 1:01 PM #60815AnonymousGuestC’mon, Perry; what about the world’s largest democracy, India? I vaguely remember that the were a British colony. They seem to be doing rather well today, despite (because?) of 1-5.
Same with those other British colonies, Canada, Australia, and the U.S.
Africa and the Palestinians need firm colonialism for a long, long time, until the Western roots really take hold. Bring back the protectorates, ’cause the natives ain’t capable of home rule.
I’ll let davelj argue with you about whether Africans today are better off than they were under colonialism. He seems to think that things are bad there, today.
June 20, 2007 at 1:30 PM #60784AnonymousGuestTwo more success stories/poster children for Western colonialism/occupation: post-war Japan and West Germany.
Maybe Japanese and Germans learn and relearn, respectively, faster than Africans and Palestinians do. But, learn Western ways they did, after WWII, under benevolent occupation.
June 20, 2007 at 1:30 PM #60819AnonymousGuestTwo more success stories/poster children for Western colonialism/occupation: post-war Japan and West Germany.
Maybe Japanese and Germans learn and relearn, respectively, faster than Africans and Palestinians do. But, learn Western ways they did, after WWII, under benevolent occupation.
June 20, 2007 at 1:43 PM #60788SDownerParticipantIndia was rich in culture and gold before the British decided to plunder it. Yes, the country had its share of problems with fighting in between colonial rulers. India became a republic and a democratic country due to its charismatic leaders who fought for independence.
The only thing India retained from British rule that has been of help is the English language, which the new generation is reaping benefits from.
Any country has its unique problems. Even the US.
jg, read a lot before coming to conclusions. Dont base ur opinions on 1 book or 1 website or 1 propaganda.
June 20, 2007 at 1:43 PM #60823SDownerParticipantIndia was rich in culture and gold before the British decided to plunder it. Yes, the country had its share of problems with fighting in between colonial rulers. India became a republic and a democratic country due to its charismatic leaders who fought for independence.
The only thing India retained from British rule that has been of help is the English language, which the new generation is reaping benefits from.
Any country has its unique problems. Even the US.
jg, read a lot before coming to conclusions. Dont base ur opinions on 1 book or 1 website or 1 propaganda.
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