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December 16, 2010 at 10:45 AM #641323December 16, 2010 at 10:59 AM #640232bearishgurlParticipant
[quote=ocrenter]you can infer some of that by looking at the % with over 30% of income going to mortgage. and the Covenant vs the north CV tracts are really of no difference, all are within the 40-50% mark. And that doesn’t really mean much as it simply means rich folks defer paying off their mortgage secondary to tax benefits.[/quote]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.
This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.
December 16, 2010 at 10:59 AM #640303bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ocrenter]you can infer some of that by looking at the % with over 30% of income going to mortgage. and the Covenant vs the north CV tracts are really of no difference, all are within the 40-50% mark. And that doesn’t really mean much as it simply means rich folks defer paying off their mortgage secondary to tax benefits.[/quote]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.
This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.
December 16, 2010 at 10:59 AM #640884bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ocrenter]you can infer some of that by looking at the % with over 30% of income going to mortgage. and the Covenant vs the north CV tracts are really of no difference, all are within the 40-50% mark. And that doesn’t really mean much as it simply means rich folks defer paying off their mortgage secondary to tax benefits.[/quote]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.
This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.
December 16, 2010 at 10:59 AM #641020bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ocrenter]you can infer some of that by looking at the % with over 30% of income going to mortgage. and the Covenant vs the north CV tracts are really of no difference, all are within the 40-50% mark. And that doesn’t really mean much as it simply means rich folks defer paying off their mortgage secondary to tax benefits.[/quote]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.
This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.
December 16, 2010 at 10:59 AM #641338bearishgurlParticipant[quote=ocrenter]you can infer some of that by looking at the % with over 30% of income going to mortgage. and the Covenant vs the north CV tracts are really of no difference, all are within the 40-50% mark. And that doesn’t really mean much as it simply means rich folks defer paying off their mortgage secondary to tax benefits.[/quote]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.
This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.
December 16, 2010 at 11:33 AM #640272ocrenterParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.[/quote]
You were asking how many in the Covenant have their mortgages paid off. and my implied answer is probably the same amount as the couple of CV tracts.
I didn’t say anything about their net worth, but did infer with prior comment that they are likely more “old money” which essentially means they do have higher net worth.
Another key issue here is folks in the Covenant are probably more likely to be business owners, who will likely have the ability to write off a lot more deductions, thereby makes it seem like they have less income. While CV owners are probably more likely to be professionals getting W2’s and therefore can’t really hide their income as well. That is just a guess on my part.
December 16, 2010 at 11:33 AM #640343ocrenterParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.[/quote]
You were asking how many in the Covenant have their mortgages paid off. and my implied answer is probably the same amount as the couple of CV tracts.
I didn’t say anything about their net worth, but did infer with prior comment that they are likely more “old money” which essentially means they do have higher net worth.
Another key issue here is folks in the Covenant are probably more likely to be business owners, who will likely have the ability to write off a lot more deductions, thereby makes it seem like they have less income. While CV owners are probably more likely to be professionals getting W2’s and therefore can’t really hide their income as well. That is just a guess on my part.
December 16, 2010 at 11:33 AM #640924ocrenterParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.[/quote]
You were asking how many in the Covenant have their mortgages paid off. and my implied answer is probably the same amount as the couple of CV tracts.
I didn’t say anything about their net worth, but did infer with prior comment that they are likely more “old money” which essentially means they do have higher net worth.
Another key issue here is folks in the Covenant are probably more likely to be business owners, who will likely have the ability to write off a lot more deductions, thereby makes it seem like they have less income. While CV owners are probably more likely to be professionals getting W2’s and therefore can’t really hide their income as well. That is just a guess on my part.
December 16, 2010 at 11:33 AM #641060ocrenterParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.[/quote]
You were asking how many in the Covenant have their mortgages paid off. and my implied answer is probably the same amount as the couple of CV tracts.
I didn’t say anything about their net worth, but did infer with prior comment that they are likely more “old money” which essentially means they do have higher net worth.
Another key issue here is folks in the Covenant are probably more likely to be business owners, who will likely have the ability to write off a lot more deductions, thereby makes it seem like they have less income. While CV owners are probably more likely to be professionals getting W2’s and therefore can’t really hide their income as well. That is just a guess on my part.
December 16, 2010 at 11:33 AM #641378ocrenterParticipant[quote=bearishgurl]
Yes, but the residents INSIDE the covenant are claiming LESS income than CV and it is MORE expensive to live inside the covenant than CV due to high HOA dues, grounds maintenance, utilities, etc. I don’t think they’re paying all these expenses with their good looks, ocrenter.This leads me to believe that the covenant residents’ outstanding mortgages overall are smaller than those of CV (40-50% of LESS income is LESS mtg pymt). At the same time, the properties inside the covenant are worth far more than CV (92130). This would lead one to believe that the homeowners inside the covenant have a higher net worth than those of CV.[/quote]
You were asking how many in the Covenant have their mortgages paid off. and my implied answer is probably the same amount as the couple of CV tracts.
I didn’t say anything about their net worth, but did infer with prior comment that they are likely more “old money” which essentially means they do have higher net worth.
Another key issue here is folks in the Covenant are probably more likely to be business owners, who will likely have the ability to write off a lot more deductions, thereby makes it seem like they have less income. While CV owners are probably more likely to be professionals getting W2’s and therefore can’t really hide their income as well. That is just a guess on my part.
December 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM #640297briansd1Guest[quote=ocrenter]
Unfortunately when I change the map to Blacks, all of the sudden I would see an island of highly concentrated population, which unfortunately is a census tract for a major incarceration facility.[/quote]
There are Whites and there are Whites, OCrenter.
Look at the 3 census tracks near the Las Colinas Women’s Jail in Santee. 60% to 80% White.
Look at the low-income White neighborhoods in the Red states.
December 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM #640368briansd1Guest[quote=ocrenter]
Unfortunately when I change the map to Blacks, all of the sudden I would see an island of highly concentrated population, which unfortunately is a census tract for a major incarceration facility.[/quote]
There are Whites and there are Whites, OCrenter.
Look at the 3 census tracks near the Las Colinas Women’s Jail in Santee. 60% to 80% White.
Look at the low-income White neighborhoods in the Red states.
December 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM #640949briansd1Guest[quote=ocrenter]
Unfortunately when I change the map to Blacks, all of the sudden I would see an island of highly concentrated population, which unfortunately is a census tract for a major incarceration facility.[/quote]
There are Whites and there are Whites, OCrenter.
Look at the 3 census tracks near the Las Colinas Women’s Jail in Santee. 60% to 80% White.
Look at the low-income White neighborhoods in the Red states.
December 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM #641085briansd1Guest[quote=ocrenter]
Unfortunately when I change the map to Blacks, all of the sudden I would see an island of highly concentrated population, which unfortunately is a census tract for a major incarceration facility.[/quote]
There are Whites and there are Whites, OCrenter.
Look at the 3 census tracks near the Las Colinas Women’s Jail in Santee. 60% to 80% White.
Look at the low-income White neighborhoods in the Red states.
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