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July 11, 2009 at 9:41 PM #429282July 11, 2009 at 9:56 PM #428544Allan from FallbrookParticipant
[quote=Russell]This thread just makes me wonder if a ticket like say Clinton/Edwards, if he weren’t toast, looks as repulsive to conservatives as Palin/limbaugh looks to libs. Admitted, I dislike almost all politicians, except for the ones who don’t speak through pursed lips and pander to special interests. Edward’s phony ass populist pandering is enough to make one barf, it just doesn’t look as rediculous as Palin/Limbaugh to me…well, yes it does…[/quote]
Rus: I don’t think the Republicans are seriously considering a Limbaugh/Palin ticket. At least, I hope they’re not!
Edwards is as phony as they come, but Clinton stands out in my mind as being quite well qualified to be President.
He was highly intelligent (Rhodes Scholar), was an accomplished policy wonk and had experience in government (granted it was as governor of Arkansas, but still). He should have been a stellar President, but he wasn’t and in spite of his background.
The problem with all politicians, once you get past the fact that they’re all ethically compromised, is that they are bought and paid for long before they get a legitimate shot at the Presidency. By the time they take office, the people that paid for them to be there start calling the markers. You’re seeing that sense of disillusionment amongst Obama’s environmentalist supporters and we saw it with Clinton’s gay supporters. Bush tried to remain faithful to the Republican “core” and we all know how that worked out, which is why we’re even talking about Palin at all.
By the way, and on the same subject, if you’re up for a good summer read, check out Grisham’s “The Appeal”. It’s very topical and very relevant to the discussion. I liked it, even though it left more jaded than when I started (if that’s possible).
July 11, 2009 at 9:56 PM #428766Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Russell]This thread just makes me wonder if a ticket like say Clinton/Edwards, if he weren’t toast, looks as repulsive to conservatives as Palin/limbaugh looks to libs. Admitted, I dislike almost all politicians, except for the ones who don’t speak through pursed lips and pander to special interests. Edward’s phony ass populist pandering is enough to make one barf, it just doesn’t look as rediculous as Palin/Limbaugh to me…well, yes it does…[/quote]
Rus: I don’t think the Republicans are seriously considering a Limbaugh/Palin ticket. At least, I hope they’re not!
Edwards is as phony as they come, but Clinton stands out in my mind as being quite well qualified to be President.
He was highly intelligent (Rhodes Scholar), was an accomplished policy wonk and had experience in government (granted it was as governor of Arkansas, but still). He should have been a stellar President, but he wasn’t and in spite of his background.
The problem with all politicians, once you get past the fact that they’re all ethically compromised, is that they are bought and paid for long before they get a legitimate shot at the Presidency. By the time they take office, the people that paid for them to be there start calling the markers. You’re seeing that sense of disillusionment amongst Obama’s environmentalist supporters and we saw it with Clinton’s gay supporters. Bush tried to remain faithful to the Republican “core” and we all know how that worked out, which is why we’re even talking about Palin at all.
By the way, and on the same subject, if you’re up for a good summer read, check out Grisham’s “The Appeal”. It’s very topical and very relevant to the discussion. I liked it, even though it left more jaded than when I started (if that’s possible).
July 11, 2009 at 9:56 PM #429056Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Russell]This thread just makes me wonder if a ticket like say Clinton/Edwards, if he weren’t toast, looks as repulsive to conservatives as Palin/limbaugh looks to libs. Admitted, I dislike almost all politicians, except for the ones who don’t speak through pursed lips and pander to special interests. Edward’s phony ass populist pandering is enough to make one barf, it just doesn’t look as rediculous as Palin/Limbaugh to me…well, yes it does…[/quote]
Rus: I don’t think the Republicans are seriously considering a Limbaugh/Palin ticket. At least, I hope they’re not!
Edwards is as phony as they come, but Clinton stands out in my mind as being quite well qualified to be President.
He was highly intelligent (Rhodes Scholar), was an accomplished policy wonk and had experience in government (granted it was as governor of Arkansas, but still). He should have been a stellar President, but he wasn’t and in spite of his background.
The problem with all politicians, once you get past the fact that they’re all ethically compromised, is that they are bought and paid for long before they get a legitimate shot at the Presidency. By the time they take office, the people that paid for them to be there start calling the markers. You’re seeing that sense of disillusionment amongst Obama’s environmentalist supporters and we saw it with Clinton’s gay supporters. Bush tried to remain faithful to the Republican “core” and we all know how that worked out, which is why we’re even talking about Palin at all.
By the way, and on the same subject, if you’re up for a good summer read, check out Grisham’s “The Appeal”. It’s very topical and very relevant to the discussion. I liked it, even though it left more jaded than when I started (if that’s possible).
July 11, 2009 at 9:56 PM #429127Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Russell]This thread just makes me wonder if a ticket like say Clinton/Edwards, if he weren’t toast, looks as repulsive to conservatives as Palin/limbaugh looks to libs. Admitted, I dislike almost all politicians, except for the ones who don’t speak through pursed lips and pander to special interests. Edward’s phony ass populist pandering is enough to make one barf, it just doesn’t look as rediculous as Palin/Limbaugh to me…well, yes it does…[/quote]
Rus: I don’t think the Republicans are seriously considering a Limbaugh/Palin ticket. At least, I hope they’re not!
Edwards is as phony as they come, but Clinton stands out in my mind as being quite well qualified to be President.
He was highly intelligent (Rhodes Scholar), was an accomplished policy wonk and had experience in government (granted it was as governor of Arkansas, but still). He should have been a stellar President, but he wasn’t and in spite of his background.
The problem with all politicians, once you get past the fact that they’re all ethically compromised, is that they are bought and paid for long before they get a legitimate shot at the Presidency. By the time they take office, the people that paid for them to be there start calling the markers. You’re seeing that sense of disillusionment amongst Obama’s environmentalist supporters and we saw it with Clinton’s gay supporters. Bush tried to remain faithful to the Republican “core” and we all know how that worked out, which is why we’re even talking about Palin at all.
By the way, and on the same subject, if you’re up for a good summer read, check out Grisham’s “The Appeal”. It’s very topical and very relevant to the discussion. I liked it, even though it left more jaded than when I started (if that’s possible).
July 11, 2009 at 9:56 PM #429287Allan from FallbrookParticipant[quote=Russell]This thread just makes me wonder if a ticket like say Clinton/Edwards, if he weren’t toast, looks as repulsive to conservatives as Palin/limbaugh looks to libs. Admitted, I dislike almost all politicians, except for the ones who don’t speak through pursed lips and pander to special interests. Edward’s phony ass populist pandering is enough to make one barf, it just doesn’t look as rediculous as Palin/Limbaugh to me…well, yes it does…[/quote]
Rus: I don’t think the Republicans are seriously considering a Limbaugh/Palin ticket. At least, I hope they’re not!
Edwards is as phony as they come, but Clinton stands out in my mind as being quite well qualified to be President.
He was highly intelligent (Rhodes Scholar), was an accomplished policy wonk and had experience in government (granted it was as governor of Arkansas, but still). He should have been a stellar President, but he wasn’t and in spite of his background.
The problem with all politicians, once you get past the fact that they’re all ethically compromised, is that they are bought and paid for long before they get a legitimate shot at the Presidency. By the time they take office, the people that paid for them to be there start calling the markers. You’re seeing that sense of disillusionment amongst Obama’s environmentalist supporters and we saw it with Clinton’s gay supporters. Bush tried to remain faithful to the Republican “core” and we all know how that worked out, which is why we’re even talking about Palin at all.
By the way, and on the same subject, if you’re up for a good summer read, check out Grisham’s “The Appeal”. It’s very topical and very relevant to the discussion. I liked it, even though it left more jaded than when I started (if that’s possible).
July 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM #428549NotCrankyParticipantActually I meant a hypothetical ticket of H.R. Clinton and Edwards.
I have been reading about permaculture and intentional communities and the sociology,anthropology ect. that come with the territory. The problem with politics may stem from the idea that the group the institutions encompass are too big for anything but selling out, institutionalized graft, phonies,power grabs, ect. I read that it is somewhat widely believed in these aforementioned fields of study that 50-150 people is about right for a community to function by shared principles. Even most churches are bigger than this. Not starting a cult yet. However, it does shed some light on the political situation and makes it more easy to laugh at. It’s no fun to be stuck between the Democrats and the Republicans IMO…any of them.
Anyway, thanks for the book recommendation. Not a lot of time for reading but I’ll at least investigate it.
July 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM #428771NotCrankyParticipantActually I meant a hypothetical ticket of H.R. Clinton and Edwards.
I have been reading about permaculture and intentional communities and the sociology,anthropology ect. that come with the territory. The problem with politics may stem from the idea that the group the institutions encompass are too big for anything but selling out, institutionalized graft, phonies,power grabs, ect. I read that it is somewhat widely believed in these aforementioned fields of study that 50-150 people is about right for a community to function by shared principles. Even most churches are bigger than this. Not starting a cult yet. However, it does shed some light on the political situation and makes it more easy to laugh at. It’s no fun to be stuck between the Democrats and the Republicans IMO…any of them.
Anyway, thanks for the book recommendation. Not a lot of time for reading but I’ll at least investigate it.
July 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM #429061NotCrankyParticipantActually I meant a hypothetical ticket of H.R. Clinton and Edwards.
I have been reading about permaculture and intentional communities and the sociology,anthropology ect. that come with the territory. The problem with politics may stem from the idea that the group the institutions encompass are too big for anything but selling out, institutionalized graft, phonies,power grabs, ect. I read that it is somewhat widely believed in these aforementioned fields of study that 50-150 people is about right for a community to function by shared principles. Even most churches are bigger than this. Not starting a cult yet. However, it does shed some light on the political situation and makes it more easy to laugh at. It’s no fun to be stuck between the Democrats and the Republicans IMO…any of them.
Anyway, thanks for the book recommendation. Not a lot of time for reading but I’ll at least investigate it.
July 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM #429132NotCrankyParticipantActually I meant a hypothetical ticket of H.R. Clinton and Edwards.
I have been reading about permaculture and intentional communities and the sociology,anthropology ect. that come with the territory. The problem with politics may stem from the idea that the group the institutions encompass are too big for anything but selling out, institutionalized graft, phonies,power grabs, ect. I read that it is somewhat widely believed in these aforementioned fields of study that 50-150 people is about right for a community to function by shared principles. Even most churches are bigger than this. Not starting a cult yet. However, it does shed some light on the political situation and makes it more easy to laugh at. It’s no fun to be stuck between the Democrats and the Republicans IMO…any of them.
Anyway, thanks for the book recommendation. Not a lot of time for reading but I’ll at least investigate it.
July 11, 2009 at 10:50 PM #429292NotCrankyParticipantActually I meant a hypothetical ticket of H.R. Clinton and Edwards.
I have been reading about permaculture and intentional communities and the sociology,anthropology ect. that come with the territory. The problem with politics may stem from the idea that the group the institutions encompass are too big for anything but selling out, institutionalized graft, phonies,power grabs, ect. I read that it is somewhat widely believed in these aforementioned fields of study that 50-150 people is about right for a community to function by shared principles. Even most churches are bigger than this. Not starting a cult yet. However, it does shed some light on the political situation and makes it more easy to laugh at. It’s no fun to be stuck between the Democrats and the Republicans IMO…any of them.
Anyway, thanks for the book recommendation. Not a lot of time for reading but I’ll at least investigate it.
July 12, 2009 at 9:34 AM #428573Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantI say keep Barry the Intern in office for 5 terms, he is a traders dream. I am going to make a killing shorting the world he is singlehandedly ruining financially. Haven’t figured out a way to take advantage of the apology tour skit yet but hopefully I will come up with something other than just laughing. Limbaugh not nearly as funny as Barry, he would be boring as Pres and rumor has it he does not read as well.
Here’s to Barry, hip hip hooray
July 12, 2009 at 9:34 AM #428796Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantI say keep Barry the Intern in office for 5 terms, he is a traders dream. I am going to make a killing shorting the world he is singlehandedly ruining financially. Haven’t figured out a way to take advantage of the apology tour skit yet but hopefully I will come up with something other than just laughing. Limbaugh not nearly as funny as Barry, he would be boring as Pres and rumor has it he does not read as well.
Here’s to Barry, hip hip hooray
July 12, 2009 at 9:34 AM #429085Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantI say keep Barry the Intern in office for 5 terms, he is a traders dream. I am going to make a killing shorting the world he is singlehandedly ruining financially. Haven’t figured out a way to take advantage of the apology tour skit yet but hopefully I will come up with something other than just laughing. Limbaugh not nearly as funny as Barry, he would be boring as Pres and rumor has it he does not read as well.
Here’s to Barry, hip hip hooray
July 12, 2009 at 9:34 AM #429157Chris Scoreboard JohnstonParticipantI say keep Barry the Intern in office for 5 terms, he is a traders dream. I am going to make a killing shorting the world he is singlehandedly ruining financially. Haven’t figured out a way to take advantage of the apology tour skit yet but hopefully I will come up with something other than just laughing. Limbaugh not nearly as funny as Barry, he would be boring as Pres and rumor has it he does not read as well.
Here’s to Barry, hip hip hooray
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