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August 22, 2007 at 10:33 AM #9976August 22, 2007 at 1:08 PM #79175
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ParticipantNext.
As myself and others have said, this crash is going to be the cause of more unemployment rather than the effect of it like last time.
I guess last time really was different.
August 22, 2007 at 1:08 PM #79303cr
ParticipantNext.
As myself and others have said, this crash is going to be the cause of more unemployment rather than the effect of it like last time.
I guess last time really was different.
August 22, 2007 at 1:08 PM #79323cr
ParticipantNext.
As myself and others have said, this crash is going to be the cause of more unemployment rather than the effect of it like last time.
I guess last time really was different.
August 22, 2007 at 1:43 PM #79214betting on fall
ParticipantThere is definitely a massive industry in San Diego fully dependant on real estate transactions. How many real estate, loan, title and escrow companies took over prime office real estate in the last few years? Check out the center of Hillcrest. There is even an escrow company where my old late night pizza place used to be on Garnet Ave in PB. How can an escrow company justify renting among the bars on Garnet?
If sales fall back to 1995 levels, and refi’s dry up, these industries need to scale back to 1995 levels- and probably abandon those fancy new digs and about ½ to 2/3rd of their employees.
August 22, 2007 at 1:43 PM #79341betting on fall
ParticipantThere is definitely a massive industry in San Diego fully dependant on real estate transactions. How many real estate, loan, title and escrow companies took over prime office real estate in the last few years? Check out the center of Hillcrest. There is even an escrow company where my old late night pizza place used to be on Garnet Ave in PB. How can an escrow company justify renting among the bars on Garnet?
If sales fall back to 1995 levels, and refi’s dry up, these industries need to scale back to 1995 levels- and probably abandon those fancy new digs and about ½ to 2/3rd of their employees.
August 22, 2007 at 1:43 PM #79363betting on fall
ParticipantThere is definitely a massive industry in San Diego fully dependant on real estate transactions. How many real estate, loan, title and escrow companies took over prime office real estate in the last few years? Check out the center of Hillcrest. There is even an escrow company where my old late night pizza place used to be on Garnet Ave in PB. How can an escrow company justify renting among the bars on Garnet?
If sales fall back to 1995 levels, and refi’s dry up, these industries need to scale back to 1995 levels- and probably abandon those fancy new digs and about ½ to 2/3rd of their employees.
August 22, 2007 at 3:23 PM #79250cr
ParticipantThis was posted on UT:
By EW on 08/22/2007
I unfortunately worked for a subprime lender for a short time (6 mos) before I decided to become an appraiser. Things are slower now, but I'm able to keep going OK because there aren't nearly as many appraisers and it's pretty difficult to become licensed.
Some things I took away from the experience: Every Tom Dick & Harry got into it- was a modern day gold rush for a time. Many only had high school education and did quite well, but spent nearly every dime they got. There are surely a lot of early BMW lease returns going on and most of these people will never make this kind of money again unless they go back to school and get a real education.
From my point of view, the whole subprime thing was mostly about taking advantage of unaware, uneducated, stupid, and lazy homeowners in a raging market. The ideal borrower would have a good amt of equity and a lot of debt, with low fico scores of course. We were trained to point out how their overall payments could be lowered by refinancing (paying off the mtg, cc debt, cars, etc), and they could also get cash out to enjoy life a little, go on that vacation you've been dreaming about, get a new car, etc. Never mind the fact that they ended up with a dangerous adjustable rate mtg which went back to 30 years in nearly every case, and just paid a whole bunch of fees to refi.
My questions are: Why didn't more people see this coming? Did homeowners think the market would magically increase by leaps & bounds from now to the end of time? Where were the finance media experts in all this and why didn't they warn homeowners?
August 22, 2007 at 8:47 PM #79550bsrsharma
ParticipantThis was posted on UT:
By EW on 08/22/2007
I unfortunately worked for a subprime lender for a short time (6 mos) before I decided to become an appraiser. Things are slower now, but I'm able to keep going OK because there aren't nearly as many appraisers and it's pretty difficult to become licensed.
Some things I took away from the experience: Every Tom Dick & Harry got into it- was a modern day gold rush for a time. Many only had high school education and did quite well, but spent nearly every dime they got. There are surely a lot of early BMW lease returns going on and most of these people will never make this kind of money again unless they go back to school and get a real education.
From my point of view, the whole subprime thing was mostly about taking advantage of unaware, uneducated, stupid, and lazy homeowners in a raging market. The ideal borrower would have a good amt of equity and a lot of debt, with low fico scores of course. We were trained to point out how their overall payments could be lowered by refinancing (paying off the mtg, cc debt, cars, etc), and they could also get cash out to enjoy life a little, go on that vacation you've been dreaming about, get a new car, etc. Never mind the fact that they ended up with a dangerous adjustable rate mtg which went back to 30 years in nearly every case, and just paid a whole bunch of fees to refi.
My questions are: Why didn't more people see this coming? Did homeowners think the market would magically increase by leaps & bounds from now to the end of time? Where were the finance media experts in all this and why didn't they warn homeowners?
August 22, 2007 at 8:47 PM #79528bsrsharma
ParticipantThis was posted on UT:
By EW on 08/22/2007
I unfortunately worked for a subprime lender for a short time (6 mos) before I decided to become an appraiser. Things are slower now, but I'm able to keep going OK because there aren't nearly as many appraisers and it's pretty difficult to become licensed.
Some things I took away from the experience: Every Tom Dick & Harry got into it- was a modern day gold rush for a time. Many only had high school education and did quite well, but spent nearly every dime they got. There are surely a lot of early BMW lease returns going on and most of these people will never make this kind of money again unless they go back to school and get a real education.
From my point of view, the whole subprime thing was mostly about taking advantage of unaware, uneducated, stupid, and lazy homeowners in a raging market. The ideal borrower would have a good amt of equity and a lot of debt, with low fico scores of course. We were trained to point out how their overall payments could be lowered by refinancing (paying off the mtg, cc debt, cars, etc), and they could also get cash out to enjoy life a little, go on that vacation you've been dreaming about, get a new car, etc. Never mind the fact that they ended up with a dangerous adjustable rate mtg which went back to 30 years in nearly every case, and just paid a whole bunch of fees to refi.
My questions are: Why didn't more people see this coming? Did homeowners think the market would magically increase by leaps & bounds from now to the end of time? Where were the finance media experts in all this and why didn't they warn homeowners?
August 22, 2007 at 9:37 PM #79534falcon_eyes
ParticipantWhy the government, financial accounting, and Venture Capital industry did not warn the stock buyers of Internet dot com companies when the NASDAQ hit 5000 points?
Then after the Internet dot com bust happened, the SEC introduced the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.
It’s all about the Greed and Speculation … expect the same thing will happen to this residential housing market.
August 22, 2007 at 9:37 PM #79404falcon_eyes
ParticipantWhy the government, financial accounting, and Venture Capital industry did not warn the stock buyers of Internet dot com companies when the NASDAQ hit 5000 points?
Then after the Internet dot com bust happened, the SEC introduced the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.
It’s all about the Greed and Speculation … expect the same thing will happen to this residential housing market.
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