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February 21, 2010 at 4:52 PM #517145February 21, 2010 at 6:07 PM #516282ArrayaParticipant
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February 21, 2010 at 8:36 PM #516317daveljParticipantFirst off, I’m not an expert on oil. I know just enough to be dangerous. So, I’m just thinking and linking out loud here.
I have a friend that lives in Shreveport, Louisiana and he leases out a big chunk of his land to Chesapeake Energy so that they can drill for shale oil. I don’t know all the details, but as I understand it drilling into shale to get out the oil is complicated and expensive, but it becomes economically viable on his land once the price of oil is north of $85/barrel.
So, I was reading some wikipedia entries – obviously not the last word, of course – and come up with some stats and then a question.
It appears that proven oil reserves from traditional drilling sources are about 1.35 trillion barrels (or thereabouts).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reservesHowever, shale oil reserves are estimated to amount to 2.8-3.3 trillion barrels. The problem being that this oil is only economically viable to extract at prices between $70 and $95/barrel on average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_oilSo, assuming that the price of oil increases to north of $100/barrel over the next few years… isn’t the viability of extracting shale oil going to put a ceiling on oil price increases… eventually? I realize that it would take a while to get shale oil extraction up to meaningful levels relative to traditional oil extraction, but if it’s economically viable, folks are going to extract it like crazy. If we’re using about 30 billion barrels of oil annually on a global basis (and of course this number is growing), and if shale oil reserves are over 2x that of traditional reserves (adding 75+ years of reserves at current consumption)… doesn’t that put some kind of a ceiling on oil prices over the next 10-20 years? Granted that ceiling might be $150/barrel, which is no fun, but still. That’s problematic but not the end of the world.
What say you oil experts?
February 21, 2010 at 8:36 PM #516460daveljParticipantFirst off, I’m not an expert on oil. I know just enough to be dangerous. So, I’m just thinking and linking out loud here.
I have a friend that lives in Shreveport, Louisiana and he leases out a big chunk of his land to Chesapeake Energy so that they can drill for shale oil. I don’t know all the details, but as I understand it drilling into shale to get out the oil is complicated and expensive, but it becomes economically viable on his land once the price of oil is north of $85/barrel.
So, I was reading some wikipedia entries – obviously not the last word, of course – and come up with some stats and then a question.
It appears that proven oil reserves from traditional drilling sources are about 1.35 trillion barrels (or thereabouts).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reservesHowever, shale oil reserves are estimated to amount to 2.8-3.3 trillion barrels. The problem being that this oil is only economically viable to extract at prices between $70 and $95/barrel on average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_oilSo, assuming that the price of oil increases to north of $100/barrel over the next few years… isn’t the viability of extracting shale oil going to put a ceiling on oil price increases… eventually? I realize that it would take a while to get shale oil extraction up to meaningful levels relative to traditional oil extraction, but if it’s economically viable, folks are going to extract it like crazy. If we’re using about 30 billion barrels of oil annually on a global basis (and of course this number is growing), and if shale oil reserves are over 2x that of traditional reserves (adding 75+ years of reserves at current consumption)… doesn’t that put some kind of a ceiling on oil prices over the next 10-20 years? Granted that ceiling might be $150/barrel, which is no fun, but still. That’s problematic but not the end of the world.
What say you oil experts?
February 21, 2010 at 8:36 PM #516890daveljParticipantFirst off, I’m not an expert on oil. I know just enough to be dangerous. So, I’m just thinking and linking out loud here.
I have a friend that lives in Shreveport, Louisiana and he leases out a big chunk of his land to Chesapeake Energy so that they can drill for shale oil. I don’t know all the details, but as I understand it drilling into shale to get out the oil is complicated and expensive, but it becomes economically viable on his land once the price of oil is north of $85/barrel.
So, I was reading some wikipedia entries – obviously not the last word, of course – and come up with some stats and then a question.
It appears that proven oil reserves from traditional drilling sources are about 1.35 trillion barrels (or thereabouts).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reservesHowever, shale oil reserves are estimated to amount to 2.8-3.3 trillion barrels. The problem being that this oil is only economically viable to extract at prices between $70 and $95/barrel on average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_oilSo, assuming that the price of oil increases to north of $100/barrel over the next few years… isn’t the viability of extracting shale oil going to put a ceiling on oil price increases… eventually? I realize that it would take a while to get shale oil extraction up to meaningful levels relative to traditional oil extraction, but if it’s economically viable, folks are going to extract it like crazy. If we’re using about 30 billion barrels of oil annually on a global basis (and of course this number is growing), and if shale oil reserves are over 2x that of traditional reserves (adding 75+ years of reserves at current consumption)… doesn’t that put some kind of a ceiling on oil prices over the next 10-20 years? Granted that ceiling might be $150/barrel, which is no fun, but still. That’s problematic but not the end of the world.
What say you oil experts?
February 21, 2010 at 8:36 PM #516983daveljParticipantFirst off, I’m not an expert on oil. I know just enough to be dangerous. So, I’m just thinking and linking out loud here.
I have a friend that lives in Shreveport, Louisiana and he leases out a big chunk of his land to Chesapeake Energy so that they can drill for shale oil. I don’t know all the details, but as I understand it drilling into shale to get out the oil is complicated and expensive, but it becomes economically viable on his land once the price of oil is north of $85/barrel.
So, I was reading some wikipedia entries – obviously not the last word, of course – and come up with some stats and then a question.
It appears that proven oil reserves from traditional drilling sources are about 1.35 trillion barrels (or thereabouts).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reservesHowever, shale oil reserves are estimated to amount to 2.8-3.3 trillion barrels. The problem being that this oil is only economically viable to extract at prices between $70 and $95/barrel on average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_oilSo, assuming that the price of oil increases to north of $100/barrel over the next few years… isn’t the viability of extracting shale oil going to put a ceiling on oil price increases… eventually? I realize that it would take a while to get shale oil extraction up to meaningful levels relative to traditional oil extraction, but if it’s economically viable, folks are going to extract it like crazy. If we’re using about 30 billion barrels of oil annually on a global basis (and of course this number is growing), and if shale oil reserves are over 2x that of traditional reserves (adding 75+ years of reserves at current consumption)… doesn’t that put some kind of a ceiling on oil prices over the next 10-20 years? Granted that ceiling might be $150/barrel, which is no fun, but still. That’s problematic but not the end of the world.
What say you oil experts?
February 21, 2010 at 8:36 PM #517236daveljParticipantFirst off, I’m not an expert on oil. I know just enough to be dangerous. So, I’m just thinking and linking out loud here.
I have a friend that lives in Shreveport, Louisiana and he leases out a big chunk of his land to Chesapeake Energy so that they can drill for shale oil. I don’t know all the details, but as I understand it drilling into shale to get out the oil is complicated and expensive, but it becomes economically viable on his land once the price of oil is north of $85/barrel.
So, I was reading some wikipedia entries – obviously not the last word, of course – and come up with some stats and then a question.
It appears that proven oil reserves from traditional drilling sources are about 1.35 trillion barrels (or thereabouts).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reservesHowever, shale oil reserves are estimated to amount to 2.8-3.3 trillion barrels. The problem being that this oil is only economically viable to extract at prices between $70 and $95/barrel on average.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_oilSo, assuming that the price of oil increases to north of $100/barrel over the next few years… isn’t the viability of extracting shale oil going to put a ceiling on oil price increases… eventually? I realize that it would take a while to get shale oil extraction up to meaningful levels relative to traditional oil extraction, but if it’s economically viable, folks are going to extract it like crazy. If we’re using about 30 billion barrels of oil annually on a global basis (and of course this number is growing), and if shale oil reserves are over 2x that of traditional reserves (adding 75+ years of reserves at current consumption)… doesn’t that put some kind of a ceiling on oil prices over the next 10-20 years? Granted that ceiling might be $150/barrel, which is no fun, but still. That’s problematic but not the end of the world.
What say you oil experts?
February 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM #516330paramountParticipantA few quotes from that UT article:
“Gauthier, part of a federal team tracking global oil reserves, doesn’t believe that the world is close to running dry. We may be able to extract an additional 1 trillion barrels from existing fields, he maintains, thanks to new techniques, such as using steam to push more oil out. West African waters show great potential, he said. Unconventional sources, like turning oil shale or natural gas into liquified fuels, could boost reserves to nearly 10 trillion barrels.”
“At the world’s current rate of consumption — 30 billion barrels of liquid hydrocarbons a year — that’s enough to meet current global demand for another three centuries.”
And finally:
“we’re still burning it faster than we’re discovering it.”
February 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM #516475paramountParticipantA few quotes from that UT article:
“Gauthier, part of a federal team tracking global oil reserves, doesn’t believe that the world is close to running dry. We may be able to extract an additional 1 trillion barrels from existing fields, he maintains, thanks to new techniques, such as using steam to push more oil out. West African waters show great potential, he said. Unconventional sources, like turning oil shale or natural gas into liquified fuels, could boost reserves to nearly 10 trillion barrels.”
“At the world’s current rate of consumption — 30 billion barrels of liquid hydrocarbons a year — that’s enough to meet current global demand for another three centuries.”
And finally:
“we’re still burning it faster than we’re discovering it.”
February 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM #516905paramountParticipantA few quotes from that UT article:
“Gauthier, part of a federal team tracking global oil reserves, doesn’t believe that the world is close to running dry. We may be able to extract an additional 1 trillion barrels from existing fields, he maintains, thanks to new techniques, such as using steam to push more oil out. West African waters show great potential, he said. Unconventional sources, like turning oil shale or natural gas into liquified fuels, could boost reserves to nearly 10 trillion barrels.”
“At the world’s current rate of consumption — 30 billion barrels of liquid hydrocarbons a year — that’s enough to meet current global demand for another three centuries.”
And finally:
“we’re still burning it faster than we’re discovering it.”
February 21, 2010 at 9:45 PM #516998paramountParticipantA few quotes from that UT article:
“Gauthier, part of a federal team tracking global oil reserves, doesn’t believe that the world is close to running dry. We may be able to extract an additional 1 trillion barrels from existing fields, he maintains, thanks to new techniques, such as using steam to push more oil out. West African waters show great potential, he said. Unconventional sources, like turning oil shale or natural gas into liquified fuels, could boost reserves to nearly 10 trillion barrels.”
“At the world’s current rate of consumption — 30 billion barrels of liquid hydrocarbons a year — that’s enough to meet current global demand for another three centuries.”
And finally:
“we’re still burning it faster than we’re discovering it.”
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