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June 25, 2018 at 2:48 PM #810317June 25, 2018 at 4:51 PM #810318
spdrun
ParticipantJan Fields? Maybe she didn’t want to go into that track — maybe all she wanted to do is get her Ph. D. and do research benefitting humankind.
Believe it or not, being a board chairman of a chain restaurant isn’t the pinnacle of human existence.
June 25, 2018 at 6:58 PM #810319zk
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Trump is not conservative in any sense. [/quote]Except in instances when doing what’s conservative means the same thing as doing what’s good for donald trump.
“I’ll do what’s good for me” is his only ideology. It’s the only one he’s ever had. If I could bet on such a thing, I’d bet my net worth that it’s the only one he’ll ever have.
Anybody who thinks he makes decisions based on anything else is blind. Or a chump. Or, most likely, a brainwashed, fox-watching fool.
June 25, 2018 at 9:44 PM #810320FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=EconProf]Spdrun:
Jan King started out with French fries at a Dayton, Ohio McDonald’s in 1978. She eventually headed up McDonalds USA and now is Chairman of the Board of Buffalo Wild Wings.
[/quote]Such stupid prosperity gospel with one example that’s supposed to motivate. Plus the law of numbers dictates that there are only so many places at the top.
It would be more economically sound to advocate that rust belt residents move to where new industries and services are developing. I still remember my Econ Prof preaching about mobility of labor.
June 26, 2018 at 10:14 AM #810321GuestSo Trump threatens Harley Davidson after using them politically and praising them before.
And the free market folks are mum.
Trump threatens Harley-Davidson with taxes ‘like never before’ and predicts its eventual collapse
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/06/26/trump-threatens-harley-davidson-with-taxes-like-never-before-and-eventual-collapse/?utm_term=.66358e91adb4What I find funny is that Trump supporters are blasting China for having an industrial policy. Remember, government planning never works so why fret?
Also, the bond market is signaling recession.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/05/14/the-bond-market-could-be-signaling-a-recession.htmlI predict that the Trump tax cuts was just temporary juice to the economy. But everything else will cause recession and long term American decline.
June 26, 2018 at 2:34 PM #810322The-Shoveler
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Sounds like you are a true believer in China’s plan to be the #1 world power by their 100 year anniversary of the revolution.
Me I am not convinced.
Baring the whole country tearing itself apart. IMO in 50 years the #1 world power will still be USA by a very long shot.
That said the middle is a very lonely place right now, everyone seems to have taken a side (extreme far right or extreme far left) no one wants to meet in the middle anymore.
Sad.
June 26, 2018 at 8:00 PM #810323Participant[quote=The-Shoveler]
That said the middle is a very lonely place right now, everyone seems to have taken a side (extreme far right or extreme far left) no one wants to meet in the middle anymore.
Sad.[/quote]
Generally true.
But there shouldn’t be a conflation of a rabid hatred of trump with a lack of desire to meet in the middle. There’s an awful lot of hatred out there for trump. Obviously I think it’s well deserved hatred.
I hate trump more than I thought I was capable of hating a person. And I’m obviously not shy about telling people that. But I am more than willing to meet in the middle. Heck, some of my positions are right of center.
You weren’t talking to or about me, I know. But a lot of people seem to mistake a hatred of trump for an unwillingness to compromise. You haven’t given any indication that you’re one of those people, so please don’t think I’m accusing you of that; I’m not. I just wanted to point out to anyone reading that they’re not the same thing, and that you can hate trump and still be willing to meet in the middle. You can hate trump and be in the middle. You can be conservative and hate trump. I’m sure you realize that, but not everyone does.
June 26, 2018 at 10:08 PM #810324outtamojo
ParticipantMore Trump supporters gonna love all that winnin
June 26, 2018 at 11:45 PM #810326Guest[quote=outtamojo]https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2018/06/26/trumps-tariffs-are-causing-cascading-layoffs-in-missouri?media=AMP%20HTML
More Trump supporters gonna love all that winnin[/quote]
Let them eat cake. Dumb people deserve what they get. Smart people never voted against their own interests.
June 27, 2018 at 12:10 AM #810325Guest[quote=The-Shoveler]FlyerInHi
Sounds like you are a true believer in China’s plan to be the #1 world power by their 100 year anniversary of the revolution.
Me I am not convinced.
Baring the whole country tearing itself apart. IMO in 50 years the #1 world power will still be USA by a very long shot.
That said the middle is a very lonely place right now, everyone seems to have taken a side (extreme far right or extreme far left) no one wants to meet in the middle anymore.
Sad.[/quote]
I believe in giving credit where credit is due.
China’s obituaries have been written so many times before in the last 30 years. However, it’s indeniable that China has moved up relative to us. The innovation in China has surprised many, including our own leaders. Do you wish you owned property in shanghai? It’s like suburban people writing off NYC and Washington, DC. Don’t you wish you owned some brownstones in the city?BTW, of course the USA will still be #1 in 50 years but by what measures? There will like be more billions of people in the globalized world richer and more educated than the “average” American.
Actually tariffs and protectionism was a pre bill Clinton democratic idea. Trump just recycled an old idea that would have worked then, but is too late now.
As far as the middle, it has moved to the jump-the-shark, low-education right.
The conservatives of the 1950s and 1960s would shun the low education people of the right today. In fact, the low education folks belonged to the Democrats until Kennedy embraced civil rights.June 27, 2018 at 7:22 AM #810328Participant“Do you wish you owned property in shanghai? It’s like suburban people writing off NYC and Washington, DC. Don’t you wish you owned some brownstones in the city?”
As an investment maybe, to visit once in awhile maybe.
To live in no.
“Smart people never voted against their own interests.”
Actually I think they are lied to and tricked all the time.
June 27, 2018 at 6:51 PM #810329Guest[quote=spdrun]
As far as run-ins with the law, the liberal solution is better than the conservative one. Legalize some drugs, allow people to clear their records. Permissiveness trumps authoritarianism here, pun intended.[/quote]I agree with you. But…
I’m ok with Sessions’ war on drugs. The consumption of drugs in urban areas has reached peak already so that market is saturated.
Drugs are now hitting suburban and rural areas…. because, naturally, the free market seeks growth and customers. Suburban and rural families should suffer the war on drugs they voted for. Let them pay and get some comeuppance.
1/5 of Americans are now on psychological drugs, not counting marijuana, illegal drugs and diverted prescription painkillers. Not to mention over-the-counter painkillers that lead people to seek out prescription. But according to Trump, the people doing drugs aren’t at fault. Blame the Mexicans!
July 6, 2018 at 6:17 PM #810342EconProf
ParticipantMore good employment news today that liberals should be cheering.
213,000 new jobs created last month.
Hispanic unemployment rate lowest in history– 4.6%, down from 4.9% in previous month.
Black unemployment rate still super low.
Hispanic and African-American support rising for Trump, worrying Democrats.The unemployment rate overall actually rose to 4%, reportedly because previously discouraged workers are coming off the sidelines after hearing about employers anxious to hire.
Trump the liberal.
July 6, 2018 at 8:00 PM #810343ParticipantThere’s more to liberalism than the ecaaaaaahnamy and giving everyone a crap job that they hate every minute of, but can’t get out of. That’s called “keeping people on the fucking treadmill” not liberalism.
Personal freedoms. The choice whether to keep a baby or not. Freedom of religion, but also freedom FROM religion.
A sense of proportion in law enforcement, not “zero tolerance” crap designed to prove a point while harming actual humans.
A safety net, so when you get ill or lose your job, you don’t go medically bankrupt.
Access to inexpensive and public education, so people aren’t dependent on the whim of an employer to better themselves.
If you’re calling Trump a liberal, you fail to understand a lot of things. Of course, you’re an “economist” (supposedly). It’s no wonder economics is called the “dismal science.”
July 7, 2018 at 1:47 PM #810351GuestEconprof, did you read George Will’s latest column?
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